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2007 Elantra vs VW Rabbit

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Actually, I've seen multiple reviews note the "thrashiness" of the Rabbit's engine, e.g. MT's COTY review.

    I would never claim the new Elantra sedan is "sportier" than the Rabbit. The Elantra is obviously aimed at more of an econo-luxo market, as evidenced by its interior styling and smooth, quiet ride. But in handling it is no slouch, just not as crisp as the best handlers in the class. One thing to keep in mind is that we have yet to see a sport-tuned variant of the Elantra, ala Elantra GT. That could come with the new hatch, which is expected to be unveiled at the New York Auto Show next month.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Actually, I've seen multiple reviews note the "thrashiness" of the Rabbit's engine, e.g. MT's COTY review

    i still disagree with this notion, its not thrashiness, its how a five cylinder sounds, very similar to the s40's acutally and some people like it or hate it.

    I may not work for mt, but i do own the car, and spend a lot of time in it on a day to day basis, unlike them.

    I cant wait for the elantra hatch!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    And unlike professional automotive reviewers like those at MT, you don't test cars for a living, drive many different cars back-to-back under the same conditions, and don't have a personal stake in the review, i.e. they typically don't own the car they are reviewing so they don't mind pointing out things that are less than perfect when they see/hear them. ;)

    The bottom line is that the Rabbit and Elantra are small cars with small engines, and I don't expect either of them to be V8-esque quiet, especially under hard acceleration. I like a car to be quiet when cruising, and I don't have a problem with either car on that score, at legal speeds or even a little more.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    neither do i. Ive never refrained from pointing out what is wrong, or what i wish could be different in my rabbit.

    I don't have a problem with the new elantra's engine either.

    But no one has ever called the 2.5 in the rabbit 'downright annoying'. :P
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Except maybe when they pull up to the gas pump? :)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    in that case they need to think about all the other cars that could possibly be 'annoying' in that sense.

    Me? My bunny hops along and isn't too thirsty at all. :)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,685
    Or when they pull up to their mechanics garage.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    don't think i'll have that problem. :blush:
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,685
    Oh, I thought you had a VW.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    I do. My only gripe is the less than affordable service german engineering comes hand in hand with! ;)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,685
    You do???? Why everyone I have talked to has nothing good to say about them. Just finished the taxes of someone who dumped their old VW saying never again.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • nthenthe Posts: 414
    "4DR Rabbit:
    Heated seats
    Traction control
    Stability control
    ABS
    Alloys
    $18,470 SHIPPED ($18,020 WITHOUT ESP)

    Elantra SE w/ Heated seats package
    NO traction Control
    NO stability control
    ABS
    Alloys
    Sunroof (blah for heavy snow weight)
    $17,530 "

    but, if you make the equipment the sme between the two vehicles

    Rabbit:
    4 Dr Base model (manual)
    sunroof option
    16" alloys option
    Satellite radio option
    edmunds price: 19,299

    Elantra:
    SE w/ XM (manual)
    premium pkg (sunroof and heated seats)
    floor mats
    edmunds price: 16,149 (w/ 1000 rebate).

    looks like the comperable rabbit is 3K more expensive, and for what?

    so what is hyundai is "too cheap" to include floor mats, the car is $3k less.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    older models do have their share of problems, but i have not had any with mine. 600kgolfgt has had some pretty awesome experiences with vee dubs too.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Rabbit:
    4 Dr Base model (manual)
    sunroof option
    16" alloys option
    Satellite radio option
    edmunds price: 19,299


    the 'base' 4 door still includes a type of traction control, just to clarify. you can't just 'make it the same' for the sake of the comparison. therefore, edmunds CANT have a price for it if it does not exist. I got my bunny for 17k so i'm not complaining.

    looks like the comperable rabbit is 3K more expensive, and for what?

    so what is hyundai is "too cheap" to include floor mats, the car is $3k less.

    these statements are weird...the first one insinuates that you think the rabbit is over priced, but the second has you calling hyundai 'cheap'. What gives?

    The rabbit is a different driving experience than the new elantra. The interior materials simply cannot be matched by the elantra, thats just how it is. I didn't build the cars, but vw did a better job of making the inside luxurious.

    Most german cars are more expensive than japanese or korean ones, to answer your question of why the rabbit is more expensive. Plus you get a six speed manumatic transmission, hyundai still equips the elantra with a 4 speed.

    Maybe they have to hold out on the floor mats to make up for the low cost of the elantra? :blush:
  • ktpklossktpkloss Posts: 28
    2 Dr Rabbit with 6-speed auto is only $16.4k or so, still loaded with all the safety options (no ESP tho)

    cheapest Elantra is $15.5k (4 speed auto +AC)

    for that extra 1k you're getting much more responsive/fun engine, great tiptronic transmission, excellent quality basic 8 speaker radio (mp3 + aux), traction control, climatic AC (semi-climate control), external temp display, cruise control, tilt AND telescopic steering wheel, dual vanity mirrors, turn signal mirrors... and of course, beautifull interionr materials, fit and finish

    wow.... really... let me think...which one is a better car.

    OTOH... new european Kia cee'd...that's something else...i wish we get it here in US, that would stir some healthy competition..
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    You forgot one big thing the Elantra has that the 2-door Rabbit does not: 2 more doors! That is a big factor for many people. Which is why it is more apples-to-apples to compare pricing for the 4-door Rabbit to the Elantra.

    The price difference between the Rabbit 2-door automatic and Elantra GLS automatic with Preferred Package (power package, stereo, air, cruise, fog lamps etc.) is about $1200 according to Edmund's TMV, including all rebates that are available to all buyers. For that, you do get 2 more cogs on the transmission, two more speakers on the stereo, traction control, extermal temp display, telescopic steering wheel, and turn signals on the mirrors with the Rabbit. Personally, I prefer the interior of the Elantra--the base Rabbit's is too boring to me with its swaths of black plastic (but some people like dark interiors). The Rabbit has more power (also more weight to lug around), but the Elantra gets about 20% better fuel economy. The Elantra has more interior room (and those two extra doors for ease of entry/exit), XM radio, fog lamps, and a 10-year warranty. For a few hundred bucks more (still hundreds less than the base Rabbit 2-door), you can upgrade to the Elantra SE with 16" alloys, trip computer, and leather telescopic wheel with audio controls. And still two more doors.

    Better car? Depends what you are looking for. If you're looking for a 2-door hatchback, the Rabbit is the obvious choice over the Elantra. If you are looking for a 4-door, the Elantra packs a lot of value compared to the Rabbit.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    agreed with everything said here.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    You forgot one big thing the Elantra has that the 2-door Rabbit does not: 2 more doors! That is a big factor for many people.

    true, but there is a group of people who value a hatch over this. Yes its a much smaller group, but they do exist. (hi i'm eldaino.)

    At anyrate, if we are talking about feature content, the base rabbit (which is a 2 door) and the base elantra, the rabbit simply owns it.

    as far as the interiors go, although the rabbits is not as busy and more simple than the elantras it still oozes more quality and has many more soft touch surfaces. (there is little difference betweent the appearence of the 2 and four door rabbits interiors.)

    For a few hundred bucks more (still hundreds less than the base Rabbit 2-door), you can upgrade to the Elantra SE with 16" alloys, trip computer, and leather telescopic wheel with audio controls. And still two more doors.

    true, but your still stuck with an interior that is less classy than a rabbits. The only real advantage here if you could care less about the doors is the leather wrapped wheel, trip computer(another matter of opinion) and standard alloys. (they are an option on the bunny.) Its wheel telescopes no matter what trim level it is though.

    Where did you get that it was 'hundreds' less though?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    If you need a hatch, you shouldn't be looking at an Elantra--until the hatch becomes available.

    Where did you get that it was 'hundreds' less though?

    Edmunds TMV pricing, and applying the $1000 rebate on the Elantra.

    You think the interior of the base Rabbit is classier than that of the Elantra; I think the opposite. Intelligent people can disagree on matters of personal taste. :)
  • nthenthe Posts: 414
    you have to look at what the cars are selling for, not what they sticker for.
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