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2008-2009 Chevrolet Malibu

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  • jm40jm40 Posts: 6
    go to this website: The Gm Source (image gallery)
    http://www.thegmsource.com/index.php?categoryid=3

    lots of pics of the new Chevy Malibu,, both exterior and interior. the interior looks just like the Saturn Aura but with slightly diffent color combinations. very nice look and style.

    honestly GM and Ford have both come out with some strong new vehicles lately. i think toyota and honda especially seem so boring now.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    The pictures were already posted here a months ago.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,749
    A pity the Maxx version went bye bye.

    But depending on traction control quality (real braking of spinning wheel (good), or the simple cut power approach (bad)), and after they've been building it a while (too many first year problems in my '04 to warrant buying another 1st year Chevy !!) , I'll certainly check the '08 'bu out.
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Little Rock, ARPosts: 872
    This may be old news, but I just read confirmation in an AP story that the Malibu Hybrid will happen soon. Here's the direct quote from the story:

    "(Rick) Wagoner, speaking Tuesday at the company's annual shareholders meeting, also said GM would introduce four new hybrid models this year.

    A company spokesman said the four new hybrids, all previously announced, are the two-mode gas-electric systems in the Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon large sport utility vehicles, and hybrid systems for the Saturn Aura and new Chevrolet Malibu sedans."

    I'd known about the other three, but this was the first I'd heard of the Malibu coming out with a hybrid system (I knew it would come eventually, but it wasn't mentioned in the car's debut at the Detroit Auto Show earlier this year...but this implies it will be available at the car's introduction, which is a good thing).

    I haven't driven an Aura Hybrid, but I have driven a VUE Hybrid and other than the SUV traits I didn't care for, the powertrain didn't feel much different than a standard car. Granted this hybrid is a mild one relative to the Prius, but by the same token if I can get a Malibu hybrid AND throw in my GM Card earnings, I'd say unless a test drive totally changes my mind I know what I'll be buying to replace my 2000 Impala.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,030
    It's not been active, but you may want to post this in Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid over on the Hybrids board. This might sparks some hybrid folks to comment.

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  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    It has been known for some time that there will be a Malibu hybrid. It will be the same as the Aura GL so it wont give you a huge boost in mileage. IN fact, it probably wont do much more than the LTZ 4 cylinder model with 6 speed auto. C&D tested an Aura GL and only got 23 mpg which isnt good at all. Plus they said it was very slow. I'm glad there will be a Malibu hybrid but it doesnt sound too promising at this point.
  • medcatmedcat Posts: 9
    I wonder if they will have a "sport" edition of the bu?
    Would that be a good/bad idea?
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    I would expect to see one in the future.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    The current issue of Automobile has a design review of the new Malibu. The author (who doesnt like many designs) is generally positive about the car although he still calls it dull. He says it reminds him of the LS460 and is full of fine detailing that is rarely seen on such a car. I guess it can be summed up by saying that he felt the car looked classy and expensive, but not exciting enough for his tastes. Of course he didnt mention any competing cars that he would actually approve of in terms of design.
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Little Rock, ARPosts: 872
    I tend to agree; I don't think anyone is going to look at the Malibu and be emotionally drawn to the car like one might the upcoming Camaro. But I think when you start comparing it to the competition (which if you think about it, isn't exactly loaded with emotionally exciting options), it will stand out. I haven't seen the car in person, but from the photos I've seen it will raise the bar for cars of this class in terms of styling/details.
  • savethelandsavetheland Posts: 671
    I think he meant that front end is dull (or generic). But overal design is pretty sweet. This time they found good proportions and lines. I hope they do not cheapen interior (as they did with Aura).
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    The 2008 Malibu looks fine in styling, but reliability and quality remain a giant question mark.
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Little Rock, ARPosts: 872
    I don't think "giant" question mark is a fair statement. There might be something unique about the Malibu that could prove to be problematic, but the bulk of the essentials (drivetrain, basic platform and such) aren't new, but have been proven in other vehicles. The Malibu shares its platform with the Saturn Aura; I honestly haven't spent much time researching the engines yet, but as far as I know they aren't being newly introduced with the Malibu.

    There are going to be question marks with any car introduction (foreign or domestic), but I can't think of anything Chevy/GM has done recently that would put a "giant" question mark on the Malibu. From my experience with a 1st year 2000 Impala and 2003 Accord, I'd have no qualms with the 2008 Malibu (at least no more than I would with the 2009 Accord).
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    "The 2008 Malibu looks fine in styling, but reliability and quality remain a giant question mark."

    what are you basing that on? The current car is reliable and we havent seen any data on the Aura yet so I see no reason to say reliability is a huge issue with this car. As for quality, I dont know what you are referring to but everyone who has seen the car up close has approved of the build quality and materials. I saw it in person at the auto show and the panel gaps are TIGHT.
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Little Rock, ARPosts: 872
    Actually I'd be more leery of buying a Toyota at this point (sludge problems, crankshaft problems, etc.) than I would a Chevy/GM product.
  • lweisslweiss Posts: 342
    Whether the 2008 Malibu is exciting or not (compared to the upcoming Camaro), GM desparately needs a big hit in the mid-size car category. I would be very surprised if the Camaro hits 100,000 in sales a year, the Malibu could sell 350-400,000 per year (over time) and finally give Honda, Toyota, and Nissan some competition. Or at least it would save some GM buyers who would be downsizing from SUVs and trucks from leaving the company's products. GM has a lot riding on this product, they can't afford to mess it up.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    actually GM already has a hit in the segment, its the Impala and it should get over 300k in sales this year. Over time the Malibu will probably overtake the Impala as GM's #1 car. I doubt the Malibu will come close to 300k sales until the Impala goes RWD in two years. I think GM would be happy with 200k sales next year.
  • lorddrago1lorddrago1 Posts: 19
    00 Chevy Malibu 3.1 L. This sounds like a PCM problem any advice?
  • lweisslweiss Posts: 342
    The Impala is a nice vehicle, sells well lately, but I would call it more than mid-sized (I don't know the classification)- it is 200 inches long, only comes with a V6 or V8 and the mileage is OK, not that great. In my case, I like a car at most 190 inches, with a high output 4 cylinder, like the Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, Ford Fusion- and I think that is the segment that the 2008 Malibu needs to play in. I've read that the problems of GM, Ford, and Chrysler can be traced to the Asian manufactures basically taking over the mid-size and compact car markets. One successful model for GM (the Impala) is not nearly enough for a big company like them, assuming they want to grow or at least maintain their market share.
  • lostwrenchlostwrench Posts: 288
    The Impala is classified as a large car, with the total of its passenger and cargo volumes being at least 120 cu.ft.
    Cars classified as midsize have a total passenger and cargo volume of 110 to 119 cu.ft.
  • savethelandsavetheland Posts: 671
    Now Impala is considered as a full size car and it is competing against Taurus, 300 and Avalon. All cars get bigger over the time. Like Taurus is bigger than ever (original Taurus in size was similar to Fusion). New Mondeo (Ford Contour) had become a large car - it has the same length and wheelbase as Malibu but its width is 74 agains 70 of Malibu and 72 in Fudion (only one inch narrower than new Taurus and 1 inch wider than previous Taurus) and height is 59 against 57 in Malibu and Fusion. Ford Contour used to be a compact car - smaller than Ford Focus!
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    They may have to re-designate sizes by a few cubic feet. I believe that the Sonata is now "officially" designated a large car because it goes over the limit by one cubic foot. The Elantra is now mid-size. People still lump cars into classes despite what the government says.

    In this case, I think the Impala, like the Azera, 500/Taurus, and Avalon IS in a different class.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    First of all, the Japanese do not dominate the midsize segment, GM sells more midsize cars than Toyota and far more than Honda and Nissan. The reality is Chrsyler and Ford are not doing their share in the midsize car segment although Ford is getting better with the success of the Fusion.

    The mileage on the 3.9 V6 Impala is better than the Aura/Malibu with 3.6 and 6 speed auto.
  • lostwrenchlostwrench Posts: 288
    Correct. The Sonata is designated as a large car, and the Elantra as midsize.
    The designations are based on passenger AND cargo volumes.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    "The 2008 Malibu looks fine in styling, but reliability and quality remain a giant question mark"

    Not really, it's all proven technology (transmission was new last year, engines have been around for a few). Production will be similar to the Aura at the same plant, no major issues and few minor ones with the Saturn.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Anyone know if production has started yet? I am waiting on this car.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Isn't it a new 6 speed automatic transmission for the 4 cyliner LTZ?
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    its a variation of the existing FWD 6 speed, its not really new.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Same 6-speed that is in the Aura 3.6 now, not new.
  • I thought the Aura used the 6T60 and the Malibu will use the new 6T40. If the 6T40 is just a variation on the 6T60 can you point me towards documentation that describes similarities and differences or tech specs, I am having a hard time finding any data on the 6T40.
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