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Nissan Frontier Crew Cab (2000 & 2001)

scrapscrap Posts: 8
edited March 17 in Nissan
I've read the latest Car and Driver response to
the 2000 Frontier and it was scalding to say the
least. Other stories that I've read had nothing but
positive spins.
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  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    budget is with the specific magazine. Who would offend a company with a large advertising budget...kinda like slappin the hand that feeds ya. I have never been disappointed with Nissan's quality from their 300ZX, Maxima, and Hardbody series which I still own after 10 years. Don't think anything go to change in the near future regarding their quality of product. My $.02
  • Overpriced cracker jack box!!!!
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Call that a back seat!! LOL
  • goobagooba Posts: 391
    Could not have bought a better truck.It fits my needs perfectly.
  • I wouldn't listen to magazine that drives CARS all the time, they don't know how to test a truck. Read the reviews given by Trailer Life or any of the boat mags to get a non biased view. Plus those guys use nothing but trucks.But it's a
    Good truck at a great price(it's not overpriced, nobody else offers a crew cab at that price), excellent reliability, laughs at towing a 4000lb boat at the steep boat ramps or on the highway, more importantly it's not a RANGER!!!
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    found in the comics section?

    vince8,

    I agree, the ranger's back seat is a POS!!
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Mahi, your kidding yourself along with anyone who knows about towing. A 4,000 lb boat with a truck that has 170HP and 200ft/lbs of torque! LOL! Nice story. Anyone can do the math, the two don't add up. Add your truck weight, people weight, gear weight...Yes, it may be able to barely pull it, but not as you wish or dream......
    "laughing" how about grunting.... LOL!!!!
  • You may be right, but prove yourself. Show us the math, or are you too dumb.
  • goobagooba Posts: 391
    vince said over all the boards:

    Gooba, you are so lame! I really must have pissed
    you off when I showed you just how weak, cheap and
    where the Frontier stood in the compact truck food
    chain, at the bottom! LOL... Also, a solid diff
    is
    better, ask any offroad shop. Just goes to prove
    once again, you don't offroad. When the Ranger
    switched in 97 there was quite a controversy.
    And why don't you tell everyone here what the 0=60
    times are for your 3.3 Supercharged bandaid? How
    about 9.5-9.9!! LOL... Why can't Nissan make a
    naturally aspirated engine to compete with
    Ford/GM/Toyota? Can you imagine a Supercharged
    SOHC
    4.0 in a RAnger?? it would absolutely trounce
    your weak 3.3 Supercharged! LOL....


    Once again, Bad Vince, for being happy with your
    Ranger...
    Good gooba, cncman, mahi, for liking your Nissan.
    Same old story, never ends, Ford bad, Nissan good.
    I just pissed you guys off showing you why the
    Ranger is NUMERO UNO, number one for those of you
    who don't speak two languages..
    Live with your choice and don't challange any 4.0
    5spd Rangers with those weak 3.3's. And another
    word of advise, Really, don't challange any new
    SOHC 4.0 Rangers... LOL@!!

    Mahi, your kidding yourself along with anyone who
    knows about towing. A 4,000 lb boat with a truck
    that has 170HP and 200ft/lbs of torque! LOL! Nice
    story. Anyone can do the math, the two don't add
    up. Add your truck weight, people weight, gear
    weight...Yes, it may be able to barely pull it,
    but
    not as you wish or dream......
    "laughing" how about grunting.... LOL!!!!


    Ok, you Nissan whiners, just face it you bought
    the compact truck lowest on the food chain!! LOL!
    Enjoy your weak 3.3 and 2.4's. Ford has 3
    engines, but I guess you don't want to mention
    that
    huh? Nor do you want to mention a 3.0 is only
    about 300 dollars more than a 2.5, Nor will you
    then mention a 3.0 has 150HP and 192f/lbs of
    torque, is available in ANY Ford RAnger, Along
    with
    its 4.0 is Available in ANY Ford RAnger..
    Rangers rule! The Frontier doesn't even make the
    top 30!! LOL as far as sales numbers.. Nor has
    ANY
    Nissan truck even broke the top 25 mark in sales,
    Why Cncman? If the Nissan is so superior why
    after
    over 15 years hasn't Nissan taken the number one
    spot in sales? Sales do matter as much as all of
    you want to try to say they don't. Sales make
    money! Something Nissan hasn't done for years!
    LOL...
    Yes, I smoked one of your precious 4 door high
    tech 3.3 Frontiers with my older pushrod 4.0!
    See you in the Cascades
    Oh, I don't see Frontiers up there, they can't
    make it!! LOL....

    Anybody see a pattern?
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    I was seriously looking for a four door truck within the compact group, and that placed me into a category that was met only by the Nissan Frontier. The bed space was limited, and that suited my needs as if I needed to haul anything that did not fit into the bed, I have a super heavy duty 5X8 utility trailer in my garage to handle those loads. I liked the look of the truck,
    and so I started to look and shop for one. One of the articles that I read was in reprint form at Nissan dealers, and although some marks were fairly high, they addressed the power issue as being somewhat of a lightweight situation. The end of the article read that if more power was an issue, then wait for the new Dodge Dakota to emerge with an available V8 engine. I was so hot on the Nissan, but I had not yet found one with the stick that I could test ride. Finally, I called a dealer nearby and they had a unit in the SE class with a five speed, roof rack, LSD and a bed extender (which I couldn't care less about). It was an acceptable color, and I rushed over to test drive it and had mentally completed the purchase subject of course to price negotiations. What a disappointment followed. The clutch and brake were too close together for my large (12) feet, but it didn't really matter, because the power was so "wimpy." I thought that I might have to use my trailer to pull the truck. Then I looked at the article that had at the end recommended purchasing a Dodge Dakota if more power were needed and/or desired. Good advice, because when I told my wife the details of my test ride, she said;"you always loved your Dakota Club cab ('95 V8 5 speed LST) and I think it would be worth the wait." To end my saga, that's what I did and have not regretted my decision. Perhaps it is because the Japanese have smaller feet and care little about available power, that the design is such as it is. I still think it is a neat looking package, and cannot comment on reliability because I have never owned one. Nor do I intend to do so.

    Bookitty
  • Vince,
    I'm sorry you don't have the credit or the money to buy a Frontier. But one day if you work hard and save yur money like a good little boy you should be able too!

    Why don't you come to FL and show me how my truck pull my boat? I'm inviting you, I'll take you out in the boat we'll do some fishing. Maybe you'll make it back....maybe you won't, who knows. The only thing you towed was your Ranger behind a AAA wrecker!!!!!LOL Have a good day Kitty Kat!
  • I'm 6'5" with size 15 feet with a 5spd extended cab Frontier and I have no problems driving, even when I first got it.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    bookitty mentioned size 12 and you mentioned size 15. I think the dimensions you need to know is the width size. Maybe bookitty has size EEEEEEE width as would explain his side to side problem...
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Here we go! Someone totally new enters the board and the Nissan crew jumps all over them. Truth hurts huh boys! LOL!! The Frontier is whimpy!
    Your kidding yourself with the 4K tow, you making me laugh along with anyone else who tows... Do the math yourself.... 170HP 200ft/lbs of torque
    4K boat + people + gear + trailer... would make it closer to 5K total... 200ft/lbs doesn't pull 5K lbs easily my friend, nice try though.....
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    Bill, I never drove the extended cab, only the crew cab. I wear triple E or double wide shoes and I had difficulty keeping my feet untangled. I did not mention this in my post, but the back seat was a bit small. I'm not trying to ditz the truck, only mentioning that it does not meet my needs. I also feel more comfortable purchasing American products although I realize that we are in an international market, and that there are many foreign made components in American vehicles
    and that there are offshore manufacturers with plants in the U.S. But as I said, I am more comfortable. Please realize that my post was completely subjective, but I said what I meant. Boy, you must really have a tough time purchasing footwear. I thought that I was the only one.

    Bookitty
  • goobagooba Posts: 391
    Congrats on your Dodge.Not all trucks fit everybody's situation.Enjoy.
  • goobagooba Posts: 391
    vince posted once again on the boards:

    Here we go! Someone totally new enters the board
    and the Nissan crew jumps all over them. Truth
    hurts huh boys! LOL!! The Frontier is whimpy!
    Your kidding yourself with the 4K tow, you making
    me laugh along with anyone else who tows... Do the
    math yourself.... 170HP 200ft/lbs of torque
    4K boat + people + gear + trailer... would make it
    closer to 5K total... 200ft/lbs doesn't pull 5K
    lbs easily my friend, nice try though.....


    Gooba, you whine too much..
    Don't start getting down on me for the backlash
    you guys started! Between the 4 of you all I heard
    from the start is Ford bad, Ford garbage, Ford
    junk crap. I just showed you different and you
    guys didn't like it.
    And about the 3.0 option.. WRONG once again.. Its
    about a 300 dollar upgrade.. Yes, I will give you
    that the 2.4 will whip up on a 2.5... But Nissan
    only offers 2 engines, Ford 3..... If you look at
    the stats of the 2.5 vs the 3.0 MPG is only about a
    1 to 2 MPG difference...


    Gooba, nice paste.. you have no life? Frontier in
    the shop? YOu have proved to one other person you
    know NOTHING about offroading.. Your lame bud..Now
    enjoy your bottom of the food chain Frontier..LOL!
    Spoog, lies, lies, lies.. We have gone over these
    issues over and over again in the Ranger vs Toyota
    Room. Ranger does come with skidplates, Ranger does
    have a limited slip too.. The TRD has a useless
    locker.. Can only engage it in 4low and at under
    5mph per the manual, and when not engaged its an
    OPEN Axle, pretty expensive option you may use
    about 3% of your total driving time. The rest of
    your TRD is Bilsteins and springs.. You got taken
    bud.. Enjoy that sticker..


    Lockers don't help you in icy or snowy conditions.
    You want a limited slip diff. Lockers are more
    for straight away acceleration and not good for
    corners or turning. A limited slip has a clutch
    mechanism where one wheel slips and causes the
    clutch to engage the other tire. Locker is when
    both wheels spin at the same rpm at the same time
    constantly. Lockers are usually found on the folks
    who do some serious rock climbing or snorkling or
    serious offroading. Stats show that over 90% of
    4x4's don't even see gravel! I think for you a
    locker would be way over kill..

    Pattern continues.
  • Vince,
    What part don't you believe? That I tow a boat that big or that it pulls it? What you are displaying to everyone is how little YOU know about towuing every time YOU try to post about it. It doesn't just come down to JUST torque, maybe for you since your truck isn't geared correctly because you put bigger tires on your truck without changing your gears(nice and cheaply done by the way, as are the rest of your upgrades), but rather the whole package. I think this is why it's so hard for you to understand...THE FRONTIER IS A BETTER PAKAGE THAN THE SHOTTY, PROBLEM-MATIC, RECALL-RIDDEN, CHEAP INTERIOR PLAGUED RANGER.

    Oh by the way KITTY, if you weren't to lazy to really do your research(such as what the total weight of package that I tow)because I've posted it before(plus pictures)you wouldn't keep getting proven STUPID! Obviously you didn't graduate anything...because if you did you would know how to support your theory, facts or whatever you call it.
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    "Oh by the way KITTY, if you weren't to lazy to
    really do your research(such as what the total
    weight of package that I tow)because I've posted it before(plus pictures)you wouldn't keep getting
    proven STUPID! Obviously you didn't graduate
    anything...because if you did you would know how to support your theory, facts or whatever you call
    it."

    Mahimahi, prior to graduation (about second grade)
    I learned that the preposition "to" is not used in lieu of the adverb "too". Further, the quote from William Shakespeare, "Methinks that thou protests too much" is indeed indicative of your tendency to play defense before the game begins. I never in any posting now or prior, mentioned anything about you, your truck, your tow package or the ability to haul or tow anything. Nor, did I claim that I did research into the subject and/or offer or submit a theory. I would suggest that you re-read my posts keeping a dictionary by your side as you do so. My opinions, were just that, "opinions" and nothing more. My test drive experience again, was just what I encountered as relates to the difficulty in operating the brake and clutch with my feet, not your feet or anyone else's feet. The power of the engine felt extremely marginal and I did not believe that it would comfortably tow my particular trailer and loads. There are various definitions of tow, and my definition is that it should do so effortlessly. I guess one could tow a coal truck with a Pekingese dog if one had a whip, but that may prove to be excessive. Perhaps you are now dissatisfied with your vehicle, and if you are, bite the bullet and trade it in for another truck (whichever one you might choose). I would certainly appreciate you not mis-quoting me in any form, and when you grow up, you may respond.

    Bookitty
  • cncmancncman Posts: 487
    Uh.... bookkitty,
    Vince was not refering to you I believe when he said "kitty", it is a name that Vince has somehow picked up!
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    If Mahimahi was not referring to my posts, it seems like I drew on the wrong guy. If I did so, then my apology is in order. Maybe it was me that played "defense." I am so used to being addressed as "Boo" or "Kitty" that I thought that I was being attacked. Now you can see what type of response system is installed. Marty, if you read this and were not addressing my fairly mild and totally subjective comments, then I am sorry that I responded thus. I have never claimed to be smart, only well educated. There is a difference.

    Bookitty
  • bigal31bigal31 Posts: 189
    If you guys were 1/2 as smart as bookitty with your posting in this forum, I might learn a thing or two about trucks other than mine. That's why I come to these boards so as to better educate myself. Call me crazy.

    It is sort of like golf (for me at least) I hit 1 or 2 good or even great shots during a round. That's just enough to get me back out for another round.
    Some people on this forum just throw insults back and forth but once and a while I learn something so I keep coming back.
    I'am not sure if bookitty was insulted or not. But the point is the TONE of his (Bookitty) post.In my humble opinion we NEED more post like his.A great TONE with substance.
    My .02$
    OR.)We could just throw down and kick the s*&# out of each other. I'am 6' 215lbs and have been lifting weights for 10 years.I'am in..Also have that size 12 shoe.hehehehe..

    Allen-
  • bigal31bigal31 Posts: 189
    off the soap box now..

    Allen-
  • goobagooba Posts: 391
    bigal31,the name fits.I am 5'8 and 160lbs.I am in also,but I do carry a track jack handle and a 475 Linebaugh just in case.
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    Allen, it seems that mahimahi was addressing another post. I became offended because I thought he was referring to something I said. The person he addressed as "kitty" was not meant to be me. So, no offense intended and none taken, but thanks for your kind words and support.

    Bookitty
  • cncman,
    Thanks you were correct.

    bookitty,
    I took me about two lines to figure out why your post was to me at first. I thought I can't believe this guy is defending Vince!!!
    Nope that post wasn't for you. I fully respect everyone and anyone's opinion except Vince. Although I did not drive the manual transmission, never intended to because of the driving around town here and the difference in towing capacity, but since I'm 6'1" and 226 with a size 12 shoe, I could see how they might be too close together. Even with my size I find that there is plenty of room in this truck.
    Just to let you know I wouldn't criticize your opinion because it's your opinion! You were serious about buying the truck, you drove the truck, you evaluated the truck and your opinion was developed. This is not the process that one "exceptional moron" aka [non-permissible content removed] Kat(Kitty)uses when he talks about the Frontier.

    I hope you enjoy your Dakota, they are a damn good looking truck.

    Bigal31,
    Thanks for the suggestion, I agree with you except it shouldn't come to that at all. It's just that Vince is my 'pin cushion' and after work I get to relieve at his stupidity. I think we all do, well everybody except the Ford owners that is.

    Oh by the way I'm in for the rumble, but I should warn you guys. My last name ends in a vowel and in cab I have a .45 caliber, 5-gallon bucket and a 30lb bag of ready-mix cement. You never know, right?:)
  • Oh c'mon gooba, it was hot out there! Plus there was alot of sand...did the enemy even fight back?
  • bigal31bigal31 Posts: 189
    At least for 1 day its been nice here.
    For what its worth (back on topic)
    Pro.. I like the Nissan Frontier Crew Cab I think they have made great strides. Once you get used to the front end which didn't take long.It is a great looking truck. I don't think it is easy to pull off and market a four door pickup that doesn't look strange.
    Con..At 210 hp with a super charger I think they would have been better served going with an optional V-8 (like the Dodge Dakotas) maybe they will make the change in the next few years. For some including myself It was one of the things that kept me from seriously looking into one..

    Vince8: If you are 280 and have been running for 15 years, has it been back and forth to Taco Bell or Burger king?? heheheheh..Oh and did you train Sumo wrestlers?? LOL

    Allen-
  • goobagooba Posts: 391
    I still have not gotten used to the front end of the new 2001.It looks to me like they wanted to make it appear that the grille guard was built in.I do not think it works,besides I have been trying to picture it with a grille guard on the front and I think it would really be ugly.
    I agree that a V8 option would be great,as long as it was bigger in cubic inches.Not like Chevrolet with their 4.3l V6 and their 4.3L V8.

    bigal31,I like that.You forgot the Big Macs,although I wonder about the running part,or is that from the car to the door?Don't forget they usually order everything on the menu but a diet soda.I have not figured that out yet.
  • Fair....I think we all have alot to share with each other about our own trucks if we don't have to be worried about it being held against each other. We certainly could help those who want to join OUR elite "club" of pick up ownership. The way I see it, there are alot of people out there that are in the market for a pickup and have never owned anything except a car. I think they need to know how exciting it is to own a pickup(no matter what brand) and that if you have one that has problems or if over time it didn't perform the way they wanted..try another brand or model. I've owned both 2wd and 4wd's...one thing I like, even with 2wd's, the ground clearence. I like being able to pull over a curb when parking space runs out(I go to alot of football games) and it rains alot here in FL and I don't have to worry about running through semi-flooded streets. Ok enough rambling...I say we show these people how exciting it is to own a pickup.
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