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Dodge Ram Quad Cab



  • madmacsmadmacs Posts: 7
    I was finally able to get the ratings for the factory trailer hitch.

    For trucks made prior to Nov 2002:
    10000 lbs weight distrubiting/ 1000 lbs tounge weight
    5000 lbs weight carrying/ 500 lbs tounge weight

    For trucks made after Nov 2002:
    12000 lbs weight distrubiting/ 1200 lbs tounge weight
    5000 lbs weight carrying/ 500 lbs tounge weight
  • indydriverindydriver Posts: 620
    Invoice +$500 is not a great deal. The standard deal on domestic makes stateside is invoice less rebate. I would assume the invoice price in Canada would be different due to exchange rates but, if you stick with this formula, you'll get a good deal regardless.
  • mr_mbunamr_mbuna Posts: 13
    We're currently in the market for an affordable pickup and will be purchasing by the end of the week. Price is the primary concern. Due to the lack of availability of 4x2 1500HD's, we're currently leaning towards the F-150 SuperCrew.

    We'll be using the pickup as a daily driver as well as a weekend hauler for a 6300 pound boat and trailer. Twice per year the truck will serve as the vehicle for a 600-mile road trip towing a 1500 pound trailer and a family of four down the East Coast from Maryland to South Carolina.

    I've been helping my dad pick out the right truck and its been a struggle to convince him to see the light on a 5.4L V8 over a 4.6L V8 though I think I've been successful in that regard. However, 4WD isn't going to happen as he sees it as an unneccessary expense.

    We're looking to find a truck for $25,000 or less after rebates and everything. What can we expect to pay for these trucks? Is TMV pricing accurate, or is paying Invoice minus rebates reasonable, or do these trucks go for Less Than Invoice minus rebates?

    Please share views on the Ford v Chevy v Dodge **for our application and finances** as well as recommendations on worthwhile options and engine choices, etc.

  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    You DO NOT want that 4.6L if you plan to tow 6300#. It's barely adequate empty IMHO, and UNSAFE pulling anything more than a few thousand pounds. At 80k miles mine would knock very bad pulling up a hill and was burning oil at an alarming rate. Gas mileage was roughly 16mpg empty and around 12mpg pulling so there was absolutely no advantage to owning that engine. Lesson learned. If you get the Ford you want the 5.4L, if you get the Dodge you want the 5.7L. I wouldn't want to tow that much with the Dodge 4.7L either.

    I can't say much about prices except some dealers are more than willing to deal and others don't seem to care. I would think with a new Ford model around the corner they'd be more willing to move inventory.
  • mettechmettech Posts: 28
    Three months old w/5300 miles, Ram 2500,SLT, 4X4, quad cab. This is the only new vehicle I have owned that I did not have to take back to the dealer for some sort of repair. I have owned Mazda, Honda, Ply, and Lin.

    However, I do wish I got the 4.10 rear with this truck. I pull a 24ft Jayco that is around 7000lbs loaded. I am unable to use O/D in strong head winds or hills. With the 4.10, I believe that O/D could be used AND I could tow an additional 2000lbs!!

    Dodge has come a long way with quality, and the Ram IMHO leads the pack over GM and Ford. I will most likely buy a 3500 Ram next when I buy a 36ft(+) TT.. with the 4.10 of course.
  • gqlefty2gqlefty2 Posts: 2
    I am considering the Ram 1500. Dont know wheather to get the Hemi or the Reg. V8 !!! Would you reg V8 owners switch if you could ? I dont do alot of towing. Also Can anyone out there tell me if all the info I get from these websites are the REAL prices the dealers go by also, or do dealers have a super guarded seceret price with the Mfg. that only they know about and all the other stuff is fluff for the consumer. Sometimes its hard to believe the Auto makers are that free with it.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Performance is a very subjective thing, and often times relates more to your style of driving.

    I've driven the RAM Quad with the 4.7 polyhead motor and I thought it had plenty of power, even when I loaded it with 1300 pounds. Others, however, are not satisfied with the level of performance of the 4.7 and have opted for the Hemi engine.

    Now there was the assumption that the Hemi would get about the same gas mileage as the 4.7, but in my experience that hasn't been true. As you would expect of a motor that delivers more horsepower, the reported range is about 10-13 MPG. The reports from 4.7 owners seem to be about 12-16.

    Your driving style will dictate the fuel consumption of any engine. My recommendation is to drive both versions and decide if the extra horsepower is worth the differential in fuel consumption to you. Keep in mind that when you're not towing you will still need to feed those ponies.

  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Yes, they are actual invoice prices. However, they don't take into account things like manufacturer to dealer rebates or manufacturers volume incentive schemes.

    If you were a small 'mom & pop' dealership selling only a couple of vehicles a month, then the published invoices are the prices you would pay, and the only profit you'd make would be from the amount over invoice you could sell for.

    I doubt whether you'd be in business for long though.

  • ccpd400ccpd400 Posts: 12
    While pulling a 9000lb 5th wheel my trans decided to roll over and die. Just under 2000 miles. All fluids fine. Told it is " stuck between gears". They are going to replace trans. Felt like it dropped into neutral while going 65mph. Any one else have similar problems? 2003, 2500 quad cab 4x4, 5 speed auto 5.7 Hemi, tow package 4:10 rear end
  • gqlefty2gqlefty2 Posts: 2
    Anybody heard when 2004's will hit the dealerships?
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Based on the 2003 schedule, the change-over dates for the Dodge RAM are approximately as follows:

    Lago Alberto, Mexico - 9 August
    Dodge City (Warren, MI) - 15 July
    Saltitlo, Mexico - 15 July
    St. Louis (North) - 15 July

    The above are "first build" dates and don't represent actual completion of the first unit down the line. In addition, early build units will usually take longer in the manufacturing cycle as the assembly process is verified to ensure quality inspection targets. Right after change-over, the time out for early units can be as long as two weeks as it is the early units that supply the product testing people. Considering transportation times, it usually take at least 30 days before units start to show up at dealers.

  • nt1992nt1992 Posts: 1
    I am in Southern California, and looking to buy an 03, Ram 1500 Quad Cab. The only available Laramie packages left at the dealers throughout the state come a with a "CA Express" package. This comes witha tonneau cover, agressive front bumper, side rails and other cosmetic items. With an MSRP of $3025.

    A local high volume dealer has 22 of these CA express Laramie 1500 Quad cab 2WD. I was there this morning and the car has an MSRP of $38290.

    Invoice on a non CA Express model is $31178. Less $2500 rebate, less $1000 hold back comes to around $27644. I offered the dealer $28500. He would not budge. He also would not show me the invoice, claiming the invoice on that car was $34355. He would not disclose the invoice cost of the $3025 Express option. Telling me that the invoice does ot breakout all these costs.

    Has anyone purchased any of these trucks recently? If so how much?

    This particular dealer had 22 of these cars on the lot, and I expect to see the 04's in about three weeks. They have sold all the Laramie packages and are only left with the Laramie "Express" packages. So I feel the $28500 is reasonable. These dealers will have to take a small haricut on these trucks.
  • gserep1gserep1 Posts: 92
    You are so right about those new 2004's coming out soon. I also saw a dealer with 13 2003 Hemi Express models on the ground. They are getting desperate to move some of them. Since it will be a year old model soon, it pays to wait and jump in at the last moment. I plan to wait until the end of the month either July or August. I am in no hurry and can play the waiting game if they can.

       I have seen those $38,090 Msrp trucks come down to almost $32,000 so far, and many dealers have a ton of them. That same truck is known as the "Thunder Road" in all states except California, so each state gets the same truck.

      I think there will be some improvements in the 2004 model. The Hemi has been plagued with a driveability problem on the earliest models of the Hemi 1500. They have been known to stumble and die in certain circustances while driving...most notably when backing up from a stop, or shifting from drive. There is a reprogramming computer bulletin out that supposedly corrects the problem, but the verdict is still out on that one.

      The truck has gone through a price increase on the base price by $210.00, and the 29H package has gone up from $4365.00 to $4565.00, or another $200.00 bucks. So some of the old units MSRP for $37,880, and the newest models go for $38,290 at the worst. I also see a lot of them with only a $210 increase that retail at $38,090, so watch your stickers. I think they will be around $31,000 plus tax pretty soon if things don't change soon. The $2500 incentive will probably be continued into August. One can only hope that more incentive money is on the way, or the dealers cough up some of their profit. They also get a 3 or 4% holdback from DC when the vehicle is sold, so that is $1100. to $1300.00 bucks extra they get.

      Good luck on your search for your new truck.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Saltillo, St Louis North, and Dodge City all started 2004 production this past Monday July 21. Lago Alberto (birthplace of my 96) is no longer used as a US/Canada Ram plant.

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  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    >>The Hemi has been plagued with a driveability problem on the earliest models of the Hemi 1500. They have been known to stumble and die in certain circustances while driving...most notably when backing up from a stop, or shifting from drive. There is a reprogramming computer bulletin out that supposedly corrects the problem, but the verdict is still out on that one.<<

    My Dodge source wasn't familar with the bulletin you referred to and he says they've had no driveability reports at his dealership.

    What part of the country are you in?

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