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Hyundai Veracruz News

mystromystro Posts: 64
edited March 5 in Hyundai
http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/2006/11/hyundai_veracruz_soon_to_arriv.html

Unfortunately the Diesel version will not make it to NA which basically puts the Veracruz in the 'just another Lexus lookalike' CUV/SUV adding a few more bobble's and bell's over it's brother the SF and using the same AWD drive system which is primarily FWD..it will not threaten the prowess of the AWD Tribeca it seems. It'll be interesting to see how it does in the crash/rollover ratings also.
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  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    This is old news. It will still have more power, more standard features, more room, more utility, and better gas mileage than the Tribeca, at most likely a lower cost. It most definitely looks better too. We'll see what features it comes out at the Detroit auto show in January. AWD prowess is great but it doesn't overcome the Tribeca's other shortcomings.
  • mystromystro Posts: 64
    Since your obviously a Veracruz's defender and it hasn't been released yet so you don't know it's cost and more importantly you don't know it's crash rating or even it's fit and finish and until it's tested this is just an futile exercise in spinning wheels which Santa Fe and many other SUV owners are familiar with.

    The Tribeca is a known entity with 5 stars and savvy SUV/CUV buyer's are giving it very close check outs but more importantly, the Tribeca's AWD prowess and safety IS what counts. I only compared the Veracruz with a Tribeca because the Subaru is the leader in AWD tech and has been for many years,it is not a johnny-come-lately in this class.

    ..and as far as looks,I'm tempted to post a side-by-side picture. :)
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    Look at any other equivalently priced Hyundai vehicle, like the Azera. Fit and finish are wonderful, performance is great, and safety is top notch. I understand your point about AWD. People in the frozen north who don't mind their vehicle looking like a fish should definitely check out a Tribeca.

    What I can tell you for sure based on current information is that it has more available interior room, more standard safety features, and more power.
  • jd14jd14 Posts: 128
    It looks a heck of a lot better than the Azera as far as the interior goes as well. While I like the passenger space in the Azera and I respect its build quality, the interior has always come off to me as quite ugly, especially the center dash. However, the Veracruz, at least in its home market, appears to be much better looking on the inside IMO. However, as far as exterior appearences go, I think Hyundai nailed them both pretty well. The only two gripes I have about the exterior of the Veracruz are the upside-down Camry grille and the third row windows that look like they came straight off the 2007 CRV.
  • jd14jd14 Posts: 128
    I agree with arumage that from what I've seen thus far the Veracruz seems much more appealing to me than the Tribeca. I'm not a Subaru hater or anything, I just don't think it has as much to offer in terms of luxury, space, power, looks, etc.
  • mystromystro Posts: 64
    It sure got quiet here all of a sudden? ;=)

    Did anyone notice how close the Veracruz is trying to look so obviously Lexus-like but then so is Honda and a few others,Subaru as usual went it's own direction.

    Personally,they are all just boxes with rounded corners pretending to be something other then the venerable Wagon.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    IMHO, it should choose another direction. It's a well sorted out vehicle as far as mechanical operation and interior looks, but its an ergonomical nightmare and an ugly duckling. There is so much wasted space and poor storage, and it looks like someone broke it's nose. If they wanted it to look good, they should have based it on the Legacy's looks. I think the Legacy is a beautiful vehicle. Better to look like a Lexus than a product of a savage beating.

    The Veracruz isn't the best looking or most original option, but it is very nice looking with awesome room and great storage, especially for it's size. I think the best looking new crossover to the Buick Enclave, but it'll be pricy and huge.
  • astorastor Posts: 30
    IMHO the Subaru Tribeca is a complete styling disaster. What were their designers smoking????? I'm sure the overall sale numbers are horrendous. I live in Atlanta and I've only seen 3 Tribeca's at the most and that includes the one I saw at the '06 Atlanta automotive show.
  • mystromystro Posts: 64
    Those who buy Tribeca's aren't followers,they not only *love* the TriB's unique *nonconformance* look but also it's 5 STAR ratings and AWD/VCD world-beater performance,the *look* is simply icing on the cake for subbie owners.
  • I suppose if you compare ugly things to other ugly things, one will come up better looking than the other, but lets face it, SUV's and C UV's are just jacked up station wagons. At least you can recognize a Tribeca, which is more than I can say for most of the competition.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I think the look does more to hurt Tribeca sales then it does help them. AWD performance and safety ratings are very, very important, but most people still consider styling to be very important as well. I'd be willing to bet that most Tribeca owners are repeat Subaru owners rather than people new to Subaru just because the Tribeca isn't going to pull anyone in based on the way it looks.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    I resided in Tribeca for over six years, the area in downtown Manhattan. On behalf of all former and current residents, we are truly disappointed and embarrassed to have this car named after a vibrant neighborhood.
  • I found it strange Subaru would use an acronym.

    For you non New Yorkers TRIBECA is an acronym for Triangle Below Canal.

    Later
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,800
    It sure got quiet here all of a sudden? ;=)

    Maybe the word wrap scared people off - all the comparison pics threw the screen off, so I deleted that post.

    Maybe this will work (to quote Mystro, you be the judge):

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  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Of the four, Hyundai competes closest with Subaru, more so than Bimmer and Lexus.

    The photo of the Veracruz posted does no justice. There are some quality auto show pictures online, but the car looks best, and fantastic in person :)

    And I am still put off by the name of the Tribeca ;)

    Veracruz > Tribeca
  • sssfegysssfegy Posts: 132
    IMHO the Tribeca looks cleaner, though I don't like it in real life, who put the Bimmer with these guys? :P
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Subaru is facelifting the Tribeca for the second time in as many years. At least they are getting the message, hopefully third time is the charm but I am not getting my hopes too high.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    The Tribeca supposed to be getting very slightly larger. Engine displacement is going to 3.6 liters. Horsepower is up 10, torque is up 30, and gas mileage is supposed to be improved by 10%. It will also use regular instead of premium. For it to be acceptible, the third row has alot of improving to do though. It was so small I didn't even try to get back there.
  • practicalpractical Posts: 53
    It's a great brand. Just look at CR's rating, it's amazing.

    I don't understand one thing about their cars,
    - No Air Curtain for the rear most row.

    Also Tribeca's 3rd row is only for toddlers. Its dashboard seems taking up too much space. No HID?
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    I don't understand what they did to the new Impreza. :(

    Alright, back to Veracruz...
  • derrelhgreenderrelhgreen Posts: 234
    In todays' Los Angeles Times in the Highway Section.

    Didn't realize that the Veracruz could list for so much money. Oh well . . . ;)

    :)
  • baxterdownbaxterdown Posts: 36
    Any news when the nav equipped VC will be available?
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    MY2008 from most sources. I haven't heard anything official yet though.
  • I've located YTD unit sales of the Veracruz. So far, through September, Hyundai has moved 8,618 units. Here's a month-by-month breakdown:

    March- 178
    April- 650
    May- 1100
    June- 1549 (I was one of the June buyers)
    July- 1749 (the peak so far)
    August- 1739
    September- 1653

    Using the June-September average of 6690 units, the 12 month projection would be 20,000. Does anybody know Hyundai's 12 month unit target?
  • austx37austx37 Posts: 18
    I just read this article today in Ad Age.
    Dealers Laud Hyundai Ads Without Hyundais

    Don't know if what they're doing is going to work, but I personally think Hyundai should create a TV ad with just the Veracruz, like I've seen for the Mazda CX-9 and other CUVs and then I think people could see how hot this CUV is and sales would pick up. *Duh* (direct quote from their previous ad campaign) ;)
  • Hyundai's lackluster marketing of the Veracruz has me baffled. Now that Mazda has captured the MT SUV of the year with the CX-9, you can hardly turn on the TV without seeing their most recent commercial shouting the virtues of their new CUV. Unless I'm missing something, the only Veracruz I'm seeing on TV is the crunched-up one at the end of Hyundai's commercial about air bags. What is up with this?? What are they waiting for??

    I am a proud owner of a loaded Limited AWD (4200 miles, zero problems). It concerns me that I'm seeing more CX-9's on the road in one Saturday of running errands than I've seen in the 5 months since I purchased my VC. Brand has nothing to do with it since Mazda is certainly not in the upper echelon of Japanese auto manufacturers. Sure, I get the issues with navigation (I own a Garmin 660), bluetooth (I don't use cell phones, especially when driving) and aux input jack (in my opinion, a serious omission in this age of ipods). But why is Hyundai so painfully quiet about their fleet, especially the Veracruz?? They need to spend some $$$$'s and soon or people will forget this wonderful option in the CUV war.
  • I agree with your assessment. It is sad that Hyundai produced a great product in the Veracruz and they appear to be ignoring it or already written it off. I suppose the "half full glass" case could be that they are selling so many that they don't need to advertise, but I doubt if this is true. I never see a Veracruz on the road in the Dallas, TX area or anywhere else I travel. On one of the other threads, someone provided the Veracruz sales numbers, by month, several months back. Where did they get the figures? I believe it was for the period March through July.
  • You are so right about Hyundai's marketing
    of the Veracruz. I've had mine for 6 weeks and
    have yet to see one on the road. I live in
    the Ft. Lauderdale area which is solid cars and
    also am on I-95 frequently.

    I'm an old guy (bought my first car in 1950)
    and without question the Veracruz is the best
    ever.

    Flwonder
  • I'd like to say thank-you to the Hyundai marketing dept., as they have helped me in the negotiation process. Lack of demand = lower prices. I'm holding out for a Limited @ $1500 under invoice. Hope to have them talked down that far before the new year.

    Wish me luck.
  • just remember that you're going to need to sell your VC sooner or later. It would really help everyone's resale value to have a car the general public knows something about....or better yet, a car that has a high desirability factor. Hyundai is doing nothing, zero, nada to help in this area.
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