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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?

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  • In my opinion GMC still is the best truck made. The Tundra has had and still has to many problems to even come close to the Sierra! If you get the Tundra with the 4.6 and not the 5.7ltr, you really have a hunk of junk! :lemon:
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    What happens after 100k

    A good friend of mine still has his, just passed 65 thousand last I talked to him (5.7, DC, short bed) and it's been flawless except for a recall on the front suspension. Still not bad compared to the not 1, but 2 GMC Sierras that he had before the Yota.

    The first Sierra was lemoned, the second was sold off to a coworker for a song...

    Even funnier was he was a service manager for a GMC dealer in NH and every single problem that he had with his trucks could be fixed for cheap, in the shop and with parts at cost.

    And yet he bought a Toyota... And then traded his wifes Suburban that got 8 mpg and had an addiction to Intermediate Steering shafts and fuel pumps on a Highlander. Then left the dealership. :shades:
  • oldharryoldharry Posts: 413
    I drive a 1/2 ton (Chevy) and seldom tow, but I frequently pass a place where there are horse shows and Big Trailers. Super Duty Fords dominate the parking lot there.

    I found this interesting concerning Tundras:

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05/200003-tundra-owners-may-be-eligible-for-fr- ame-replacement.html

    Seems Toyota has a problem with frames rusting to the point the truck is unsafe.

    Harry
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    And, Ford is still #1 in truck sales. HEHEH.

    BTW I loved the posts about the Turdra. With the F-150 EcoBoost model being able to pull an 11,500 pound trailer, a V6 that can out pull the big V8's in the GM and Dodge, lookout, their sales will get even better. I had a 2001 F150, 44 sheets of drywall that would have put any other half ton PU bumper on the ground, hauled it like it was empty. I needed a bigger bed though along with room for 5, and out of all the trucks made, only Ford has one. None of the other trucks had a crew cab with an 8 foot bed, even in their heavy duty lines. I have had my F350 Dually powerstroke now for 9 years, and have not had any major problems with it, just the usually wear items.
  • unclej00unclej00 Posts: 3
    As has been mentioned in other spots, the designation of the F-150 of best selling truck in America sounds cool and is a great marketing tool, but if you like to deal in reality then it isn't as exciting as it sounds.

    Chevy and GMC are essentially the same thing but they are counted separately. If you combine them as one (which in reality they are, but have different names), then they beat the F-150 easily.

    Dodge simply doesn't make as many trucks as Ford. Dodge could sell 100% of its inventory and not beat Ford because Chrysler (even before the economic disaster) is much smaller than Ford. They don't manufacture as much. I'm not sure percentage wise how much F-150s are sold per manufactured each year or for Dodge Ram, but to say Ford sells more and bragging about it is misleading and silly. It's like a closing pitcher for an MLB team that wins 100 games bragging about having more saves than a closer on a team that wins 40 games. It doesn't necessarily mean that 1st closer is better, but that he had way more chances to get saves than the other guy.

    If you like politicians and their rhetoric, then you like the stat of the F-150 being best selling truck as meaning something. If you like actual reality and less BS, then you understand that that stat doesn't really mean much.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,650
    Chevy and GMC are essentially the same thing but they are counted separately. If you combine them as one (which in reality they are, but have different names), then they beat the F-150 easily.

    Does Ford actually break down the sales between the F150, F250 etc?

    Anyway, for 2011, the F series has been outselling the Silverado and Sierra combined.

    For July Ford sold 313,183 F-Series trucks. GM sold 215,906 Silverados and 80,194 Sierras.
  • cobrazeracobrazera Posts: 352
    Ford finally got some decent/competitive engines and against the aged GM products stacks up very nicely. GM redesigns are in the works, but until then, Ford has a very competitive product.

    Love my Ram, tho - the HEMI power is fantastic, it gets decent mileage, and is the looker of the bunch.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    Only thing about the Rams is how do you tell the difference between a 1994:

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    and a 2011?

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  • There are exterior differences, some subtle - but it's a whole new ballgame inside. I'm not a Ford guy, so I can't tell what's new there either.
    Fact is, the '09 Ram is the first P/U I've had for about 30 years. I looked at late model used, dismissed the Ford due to lack of power, and couldn't afford the GM products which seem to have the best economy of the three. When Car & Driver magazine compared the full size trucks in '09 and named Ram the winner, that was the clincher for me.
  • Who cares? Only a Ford guy makes a big deal out of sheet metal and plastic. Look at engines, performance, and actual use of the vehicle. Many changes and improvements since 1994. Plus, why did Ford decide to copy Dodge's body style. That is the only reason Ford went away from the "box" style!!
  • Well the F150 and F250 and F350 are different classes of vehicle. Then you'd have to include the Silverado 1/2 tons and 3/4 tons. Ford just wasn't creative about it's naming. The F150 and F250 are just differences in it's tonage. Most people do fine with the 1/2 tone, so that is a completely different discussion
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,847
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  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    Has anyone bought a V 6 eco boost? What kind og mpg do you get and what is you + & - of the truck. With the RAM 1500 V6 I an considering both. Any help would sure be a help,
  • funny is how we all do not realize..yes the F-150 outsells the Chevy Silverado but if you add in the GMC sierra sales you will see GM actually sells more trucks..not that this means much, it's a personal preferance between the two.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    but if you add in the GMC sierra sales you will see GM actually sells more trucks

    Not in 2012...

    Ford F-Series = 645,316
    Chevy Silverado = 418,312
    Ram Pickup = 293,363
    GMC Sierra = 157,185

    Silverado + Sierra = 575,497 -- well behind Ford.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Host
  • That's very true and my preference has always been GMC Trucks and General Motors small block and big block V-8's. They are easy to work on and the parts are almost always cheaper than fords. The older Fords parts from year to year in many instances are hardly ever interchangable like the small block GM motors. Thats a real pain in dealing with Ford engines!
  • Thanks Kcram for putting up some real sales results for 2012. I love how the hatters on this forum just throw phrases out there like "if you add Chevy and GM trucks sales together they would blow Ford away. Well no they don't and I know you are going to say well who cares? We don't care. It all comes down to this, when you are pulling your 2 horse trailer up a big hill on the highway and a Ford Superduty flies by you pulling an 4 horse trailer with living quarters then you know why we love our Fords. :P
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,847
    A reporter would like to speak to a loyal F-150 owner who is considering replacing his old truck. If you have owned F-150s, think it may be time to replace your aging truck and would like to share your story, please send your daytime contact info to PR@edmunds.com no later than Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 8 a.m. PT/11 a.m. ET.

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    but wait, there's more!
    The same reporter would also like to speak to a loyal Chevy Silverado or Ram owner who is shopping for a new truck. If you'd like to share your story, please send your daytime contact to pr@edmunds.com no later than noon PT/3 p.m. ET on Friday, 1/18/13.

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  • I think:

    1. Who cares? All three trucks are virtually the same. Just as a Wendy's, McDonalds and Burger King burger are virtually the same. Five years from now, they will all have the same features, operating costs and dependability between them. The diff is in the badge.

    2. I just did a search for new F150s at my local large Ford dealer's web site. 164 new F150s came up in inventory. 4 of them were priced at twenty-nine thousand and change. 160 of them were priced at OVER THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. For a 1/2 ton PICKUP TRUCK. That is INSANE, is what I think.

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