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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?

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  • morganvmorganv Posts: 49
    i have to disagree about your assessment of the RAM truck. WEe own 4 RAMs now and couldn't be more pleased. we owned fords for over twenty years and thought they were the best. but then we just started to realize that we were experiencing too many problems. aFter ford told us a few times they wouldnt pay for some expensive repairs we decided that maybe it was time for a change. My dads always owned chevies and hes had some serious troubles with them, rear axles, transmissions, burning lot oil and prematurly rusting just to name a few. although it wasd pretty strange to us, our friends with dodges seemed to be pretty pleased. as i said, we now own four. now we operate a large farm and use them for a combination or work truck, tow truck, and family getaround trucks. i have to tell you that im pleased with the interior looks, and im a lady. maybe its not a lincoln but its a nice clean design. looks are subjective. maybe even if i thought a chevy or a ford had better looking interior, it wouldnt make me buy one on that point alone. our rAms have been so reliable and durable that were sorry we didnt switch sooner. the dealer down here has been great too.

    morgan
  • icanfixiticanfixit Posts: 1
    I can't remember driving anything but a Ford truck. Not sure if the next one will we a Ford. My dad had over 40 years of personal and fleet buys with Ford and has turned to Toyota. Most of the trucks that my dad and I have had were ordered from the factory. My last was a F250 4x4 with a powerstroke. Seemed to be too many design flaws in it. My current F250 4x4 has the ride of a brick going down a mountain. My dad tried to order a new Ford and could not get the salesman to listen. He could not even get a test drive. His request was pretty simply, F150 supercab, 8ft bed, and not with a 4:10 rear. You can't get it built. You used to get that truck and it was what he was driving. Try to get a supercab with a 8'bed. It will not happen. Work trucks require 8' beds to haul material. Ford has lost this concept. Ford says they build work trucks but if you look they are just sport truck versions listed. he went to different dealers and got the same response and problems with the salesmen. He told me that they could not believe he wanted to order a truck and wait for it. They were only interested in selling off the lot. He looked at Chevy and Dodge. One simple thing he wanted on any truck was a handle on the post inside to help get in and out. Have you noticed how many trucks have them only for the passenger side? Has anyone noticed the trucks keep getting higher off the ground? Every 2 years they go up at least an inch. You can not reach over the side of the beds on the new ones. Ford is showing a step built into the tailgate.
    All of our trucks have been purchased under commercial sales. If Ford lists you as a commercial sale then you do not get to give your opinion on the Ford website about the truck.
    Ok, I have now got some of this off my chest. I have loved Ford trucks through the years and would like my next truck to be a Ford. Right now I just can't see it unless Ford turns around and gets back to a good design. I like 4x4 for my area and getting rid of the independent front suspension in favor of a solid axle was the worse move they could make. As I have said it is like driving a brick down a mountain.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    The SuperCab with 8 ft bed is only built with the heavy duty payload package which includes the 4.10 rear. This is the only way that this truck is built since 2004.

    The heavy duty payload package gets your up to 3050 in payload with the regcab. Try that with a Toyota.

    Mark.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,931
    The high lift-over box sides on the new models aren't getting rave reviews, either.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Ford boxs carry an average of 6 cubic feet more than the same bed on a Chevy.
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    And doesn't require you to be 6'+ to get at it from the side. You can carry 5-gallon containers under the walls.

    Even behind the seats (RC)! :surprise:

    Too bad the '09 F-150 will just get warmed-over, and not redesigned like it needs. :sick:

    DrFill
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Explain why Toyota claims they have a real truck when they don't even offer a fully box frame they way Ford, Dodge and Chevy do?

    Explain why Toyota uses rivited cross members instead of through welded the way Ford does?

    I'm sure peeps in the northeast will love how the C-channel frame on the Tundra rots from the inside out because it holds in road salt and debris.

    Oh and Ford trucks were #1 in the Strategic Vision 2007 Total Quality Survey....

    http://www.fordvehicles.com/features/news/detail/index.asp?id=1629
  • fordchrisfordchris Posts: 10
    for 2008 ford will do a minor remodling with a integrated tool box (first in class) and for 2009 a major redesign with a 4.4 liter diesel hybrid engine that will get an outstanding 60 miles to the gallon thats innovation thats ford
  • That really is too bad,,, not long after i purchased my 2006 F150 i heard from SEVERAL friends about spark plug ejection. My mechanic new about it very well and said there was a "silent" recall on it,,whatever that means. he also assured me that the condition was taken care of by my 2006 model year. I have never had that problem but at 26k i have had 4 fuel injector problems. I have owned nothing but Ford mustangs since in High school and put over 200k on all of them and NEVER had a real problem. How is it now that I decide to buy my first ever new vehicle and I have so many problems. The dealer was great , they fixed it every time , but the last time as i was leaving the dealership and the check engine light came on, i drove it straight to the TOYOTA dealer and traded it in. I will never buy a Ford again. That is really sad
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Do not us generic fuel.

    visit www.toptiergas.com

    Mark.
  • I did use generic fuel!!!!! and you are the second person to tell me that!!! I did not believe the first as he had no data to back it up

    wow, that really sucks, I really liked the ford untill i started having problems.

    Thanks

    R
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    It's made the same way your F-250/350 have been made for generations, except with a fully-boxed front end.

    And more safety equipment than any F-series in history. ;)

    And a V8 that doesn't suffer from asthma pulling a load (11k in your dreams, I need to get home today!).

    Now you answer some questions.

    Ford goes on and on about the size of the bolts they use, and indeed they are slightly larger than other trucks.

    Is it truly just cost-cutting, when you use only six bolts to bolt the tow hitch to the frame, while Toyota uses a dozen bolts? Or are you just looking to lighten the load on an overtaxed engine? :confuse:

    DrFill
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    HMMMM F-150 5 stars from the Fed.

    Tundra 4 stars. Ok so maybe that is safety if you live in bizarro world.
  • bugchuckerbugchucker Posts: 118
    FYI, Tundra was designed and built in the USA. Ford and GMC don't compare to the new Tundra. I buy what is best and I don't care where it was made. It is not my job to support overpaid auto workers, who do poor quality work. The big 3 need to learn to compete or go home. There is a reason why my garage has a BMW, Lexus, and Tundra in it.
  • fordchrisfordchris Posts: 10
    whatever ford is the best when it comes to design and quality and 3050 pounds of payload 890lbs more than the competition and 11,000 pounds towing best in class so you need to replace that tundra with the best truck made the f-150 or even a super duty
  • bugchuckerbugchucker Posts: 118
    I would not put Ford in the top 3. Why do they lie in their commercials? Guess Ford never heard of truth in advertizing.
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    It's obvious you've never tried to pull an 8k load with a Ford, much less 11k, which it can't handle. Ford obviously has no internal towing tests, and will say anything to sell their beleagured truck. :sick:

    DrFill
  • KCRam@EdmundsKCRam@Edmunds Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,495
    Jul 07 / Jul 06 / +/- / CY 2007 / CY 2006 / +/-
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    F-Series...56,488 / 68,982 / -18.1 / 411,926 / 469,159 / -12.2
    Silverado..46,997 / 66,583 / -26.5 / 357,893 / 383,752 / -6.7
    Ram........29,312 / 32,793 / -11.0 / 214,569 / 215,967 / -1.0
    Sierra.....15,892 / 22,947 / -27.9 / 115,185 / 124,565 / -7.5
    Tundra.....23,150 / 10,285 / 134.5 / 105,990 / 67,743 / 55.6
    Titan.......5,708 / 5,691 / 4.5 / 38,781 / 44,528 / -13.4
    Mark LT.......758 / 962 / -21.2 / 5,090 / 7,512 / -32.2

    kcram - Pickups Host

    KCRam - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Moderator

  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,158
    So the Tundra outsold the Sierra and Titan this month and is nipping at the heels of the RAM (ways to go of course).

    That's pretty impressive...
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,931
    I've worked on or around motor vehicles for nearly fifty years. In all that time I have never experienced, seen, or even heard of a leaf spring eye-bolt breaking on any car or truck.

    Using larger pieces, especially fasteners, usually means a decrease in metal quality or heat treating. Its also cheaper in many cases.

    Dusty
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