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Dodge Grand Caravan Steering

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  • harley16harley16 Posts: 2
    I took my 2005 dodge grand caravan to the dealership because the battery died. While we were there we had all the brake pads replaced along with the 2 front rotors. The minute we got on the highway it starting pulling to the right and vibrating. It also stated having a L turn STEERING SHUDDER. We never had a problem before taking it in. We took it back to Dealership and they said we had a steering shudder because----it had been up on the rack so long and the "fluids" shifted and it would probably go away in a couple of days. What do you guys think?
  • harley16harley16 Posts: 2
    Is there a way to find specific TSB's on dodge. I'm trying to find TSB 1900403?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,403
    I think B.S. They did not install or tighten something properly, and I would not drive the vehicle until it is fixed. Take it to another shop, get it fixed, and present the first shop with the bill if they are not willing (or capable) of fixing it themselves.
  • docbunnerdocbunner Posts: 11
    I own a 2003 Dodge Chrysler Sport Grand Caravan AWD. I never had any noise until after I had the recall upper hose replaced. I too was getting the run around. I just took it in to the dealer where i had bought it and was told all of the above. but what really got the icing was when they told me that it coulfdn't be fixed. I could have it flushed with no guarantee that that would solve it.
    I drove it to Florida for my neice's wedding. I am planning on trying to get a power steering reservoir while I am here in St. Petersburg and put it on after I get back home. I will keep the old one as a spare and clean it out qith hot soapy water, etc.
    wish me luck. I will let you all know if this corrects my Power steering problem.
    is there anything we can do in the meantime to force them to honor their recall problem fixes which causes continuing problems?
  • drdylandrdylan Posts: 4
    Docbunner,

    I had the same problem. The DODGE DEALER told me it was either the rack and pinion or the power steering unit.

    I took it to a two bay shop.

    They found a Tech Bulletin covering the problem.

    The Tech Bulletin is bulletin number 19-006-05, dated August 4, 2005.

    SOLUTION: Small shop replaced one of the hoses with a longer one, as per Tech Bulletin.

    Problem solved.

    Good luck & Let me know if this resolves your problem.

    By the way, I had the $ 150.00 flush job, which of course did not help. I did demand my money back for that, which they gave to me.

    Dan
  • jammer88jammer88 Posts: 1
    I've been fighting this whining and intermitent tight steering for almost 5 years. Ever since they performed the power steering hose recall. I purchased the ES version so it is very hard to let go, I love this van except this constant steering noise problem. I've had it in the shop 5 times already for this problem. They have replaced the pump twice, the rack, the hoses, the reservoir, all with no success. Works for abit but comes back. Still on warranty, but they ding me $100 everytime I bring it in. I've done more help by adding additives. Haven't tried the longer hose yet so I hope this works:) P.S. I also own a 2004 Caravan pretty much exactly the same steering parts, absolutely no problems, except I haven't brought it in for the recall:) I should add the problem gets worse when the weather is colder. 66K kms, but problems started much earlier. Wish I could have the old hose back, I'l take my chances with the fire.
  • scotth711scotth711 Posts: 1
    Hi,
    I've got a loud whine when I first start my 01 GC. It only lasts about 1 minute and then everything is quiet and I haven't had any problems with steering. Is this possibly related to the power steering issue?

    Thanks
    Scott
  • hacgsohacgso Posts: 1
    My wife was driving our '02 Dodge GC on the highway and when accelerating and changing lanes, she felt a loss of power steering. I drove it and it was very difficult to turn the wheel. I saw a lot of comments about the reservoir and possible clogging of the screen. Could this be my problem? Or is it the pump? There wasn't noise or whinning associated with this like mentioned in the other replies.
  • Do you by chance know which power steering hose they replaced to get rid of the whine?

    We also have a 2003 dodge grand caravan, that has been doing that for a few years, again the dealers said they couldn't do anything.

    Had it to a small shop that replaced the rack and pinion and the noise was worse ever. They are trying to fix it, I don't think they know about the hose.

    Thank you
    Mel
  • drdylandrdylan Posts: 4
    Hi Mel,

    I will not have access to my paperwork on the repair for a few days. My guess is that it was the return line, but I am not 100 % certain.

    Tell your shop to read Dodge's Tech Bulletin bulletin number 19-006-05, dated August 4, 2005. That is what my guys used to determine the solution to the problem.

    Also if they Google the bulletin they should be able to locate it, if they do not have other means to access it.

    Mel let me know if they can not determine which hose to replace and I will check my records and find it for you.

    Good luck and God Bless,

    Dan

    Tell the
  • jordy2jordy2 Posts: 1
    I recently bought a 96 DGC Sport. Whether I'm driving or stopped, the steering makes this grinding sound when I turn the wheel even the slightest bit. The steering doesn't lock up and I don't hear any popping noises, only this horrible grinding noise-it kind of sounds like teeth grinding but on a much louder scale.
    Has anyone experienced this and/or does anyone have any suggestions?
  • Good day all,
    I was about to replace the power steering pump just before reading this message thread. I had the same problem as many (grinding noise). I just finished replacing the reservoir and the grinding is gone.
    Try that first!!!
    Thank you all!
  • We suffered with the whining / groaning noise on my 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan SE for more than a year. The dealer replaced the rack and pinion (under warranty, so my cost was minimal) but the noise persisted. I followed the advice in this forum, replaced the power steering reservoir ($46) and the whining noise is gone!
  • nurmom2nurmom2 Posts: 1
    I am having the same whinning noise in my 2003 DGC. after reading theses post I'm thinking the reservior should be changed I heard a range of $25.00 to get the part. Looking around the Int for price ranges the only thing in that range is the filter?? So I wanted to know if its the actual reserior ( that I'm told I'll have to purchase at the dealer) or the filter I need to replace? :shades:
  • Start by replacing the reservoir you have to buy from the dealer. If you want to do it right all around, replace the filter and reservoir to keep it cleaner. I just replace the reservoir and all is good for over a year. If that works for you, send Dodge a letter with a copy of your receipts on the fix so Dodge can officially do a recall on this. The more complaints the better. It's really crazy that they want to hit you for a rack job when this will fix the problem most of the time. Good luck and hope if fixes the whine like my '03 DGC.
  • In Oct 2007, I had the PS pump replaced on my 02 DGC because my van was making whining noises. The noise did not go away entirely. It was most noticeable when I first started the van, but then it went away.
    Within the last 2 months or so, the whining got louder and louder. Also, it would not go away like before. I checked the PS fluid level. It was low. I added fluid (did NOT overfill) and the noise went away - temporarily. The whining noise only happens now when the van is first started - just like a year ago.
    Last week I brought my 02 DGC in to have this whining problem checked. The repair shop (not a dealership repair shop) told me that the rack and pinion is leaking, as well as the PS pump. Since I just had the PS pump replaced less than a year ago, it's still under warranty - I would just have to pay for the labor to replace it. The repair shop quoted me just over $900 to place the rack and pinion, exchange out the PS pump, an alignment, labor and tax.
    After reading MANY, MANY posts in this forum, I am extremely hesitant to have the rack and pinion and PS pump replaced. The repair shop mentioned nothing about the PS reservoir or hoses. I already had the PS pump replaced once and it did not help. The rack and pinion is quite expensive and I wonder if it's really the problem here.
    Do I really have a leaking rack and pinion and leaking PS pump, or could replacing the PS reservoir fix this?
    Thanks in advance for any advice/help with the problem!!
  • Is your DGC leaking on the driveway? If not, replace the reservoir and see if it goes away.
  • I ended up taking it to a place where they power back flushed the power steering and it was solved. Only cost me $53.99 Went back to dealer and told themn that I wanted to file a complaint against the mechanic for not doing his job.
  • There is hope for all the steering issues. I had the same problem with my 2003 Grand Caravan. Looked all over the net at different forums and discovered the solution. I did not believe it would work either until I took a chance and spent
    $26 for the replacement power steering pump reservoir. It seems no one knew there is an internal filter in this little plastic reservoir. When the fluid comes into the top from the return line, it goes through this filter before the suction line can get any power steering fluid. So your power steering is noisy due to not getting the correct amount of power steering fluid back to the pump.
    I cut my old reservoir apart to see what my problem was and I discovered that 2 out of 3 of the biggest section of this filter were plugged up.
    After I replaced the reservoir our van is as quiet as a mouse.
    I was like everyone else and ready to replace my rack and pinion or the power steering pump until I read up on this issue
    I am very Thankful for these forums.
    I replaced this reservior myself, there are 2 bolts you can see on top, and one bolt on the bottom that is difficult to get to. You will have to get all the fluid out of the reservoir or you will make a huge mess. You can take the return hose off slowly and catch a lot of it there and the same with the suction hose. Unless you have like a turkey baster you can suck the fluid out from the top. All you have to do is loosen the bottom bolt, not remove it. I had to take a 10 mm socket on an extension and just feel around for the bolt head, once I found it just loosen up.
    Why don't the dealerships know about this issue?
    Sorry to be so windy.
    Good luck everyone,
    Kenny in Ky
  • New to this forum...very informative. Question about 2003 Dodge Caravan. My power control module died and I had to have it towed to the dealership a few weeks ago. When I picked it up, weird "whrring" sound came from steering column (absolutely no sound before module dying). I drove it for a bit but noise got louder; returned the van as they said "that because there was no power, the van had to be pushed manually into the garage that some air may have got into the lines", so they bled the lines, and the sound is 10X worse. As soon as I started the van, I knew that and yet they said it was ready to go. Brought the van back and now they are saying that I need a new power steering pump and possibly rack and pinnion - $2000 worth of repairs.
    I said it was their fault, when they pushed the van with no power, that somehow they jeopardized the integrity of the power steering system...they're saying "not likely". They are holding on the fact that I drove the van for a while before returning it to be looked at. Do I have a leg to stand on? Would replacing the reservoir be enough? There was a bit of vibration happening when I returned it the last time, so I'm scared that my van is becoming unsafe. Any advice?
  • bonomibonomi Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 Limited 3.8 (of course) and I replaced the Rack and Pinion at 39,000 and now with 121,000 miles I'm getting the same leaking PW fluid on the ground. Dealer wants $1500 to replace; other shops will do it for $800. Has anyone tried that Lucas Power Steering Stop Leak fluid that sells for about $8.50? After reading these posts I am going to definitely change my reservoir for $26. Thanks.
  • srs_49srs_49 Posts: 1,394
    I doubt the Lucas or any other stop leak product will work if the problem is the seals down in the rack itself. That PS fluid is under some very high pressure (I thought I read 200 psi or there 'bouts). No after-market chemical is going to help those seals with that kind of pressure, IMO.
  • dirt42dirt42 Posts: 1
    Had the winning problem, first thought was the power steering pump or the rack. Before I spent the money, went on line and found this excellent forum. Went out yesterday and purchased the plastic resevior for $38.00 and 1L of fluid from the Mopar dealer. Installed today and the winning is GONE. Of note, if you do this repair, buy a turkey baster as someone suggested to drain and the third bolt (10mm) was a bit of a pain in the [non-permissible content removed] (hidden behind the large pump hose).
  • I started having a high pitched whine about a year and a half ago (only in the a.m.) and I couldn't find the problem. Since I come from generations of mechanics, my dad taught me to work on my own car or at least to be mechanically savvy. I researched that problem and took it into the shop. They were insistent that I needed a new power steering pump, but I stood my ground and asked them if they would just do a flush of the steering system, first. I had read this might help. They weren't happy, but in the end they did the flush and GUESS WHAT? Yep, the noise stopped. Only problem...it's back! Yes, it held for almost two years, but with this recent awakening of the problem, I was looking for a more permanent solution. This time, it was a whine and a groan. I read this blog and decided to replace my power steering resevoir. I paid $25.35 + tax at a Dodge dealer and replaced it myself. There are three screws (top two 8mm, bottom 10mm). The bottom one is hard to get to, but only needs to be loosened, once found. The resevoir slides onto it. Removing all hoses to improve access helps. I have a brake bleeder hand pump (generic brand) that made fast work out of emptying the power steering fluid from the old one. It took less than 30 min. for the entire replacement process. I also cut the old resevoir in half and found alot of black gummy liquid clogging up more than 2/3 of the filter inside. I paid approx. $60 for the system flush two years ago and a total of $35 this time to replace the resevoir/fluid. I'm hoping this fix lasts longer! Either way...it's cheaper than a rack & pinion or a new pump. Remember, if I can do it...you can too!
  • I am having the same problem with my 04 DGC. I just bought the part at the dealer yesterday and will attempt to install today. Will let everyone know how it turns out.
  • I bet it will fix your whining problem in your 04 DGC.

    I sent a of letter to Dodge about this common problem about a month ago and no response yet.
    Maybe we all should get a petition going for a recall on this so everybody gets some money back or get theirs fixed. :)
  • First off, thanks to everyone for all of knowledge sharing going on with this issue! I have a 2005 Chrysler T&C which I'm assuming falls into this category since its basically the same as the DCG, right? Been having the whining when turning since its turned cold, so spent the $26 and switch out the reservoir. I'm wondering, for those where this has been successful, was the noise IMMEDIATELY gone or did it take a few drives for it to completely go away. Went for a short drive after the switch and some noise is still there, so wondering if that means this wasn't the fix for me?

    Thanks!
  • Turn your steering wheel all the way right and left slowly about five times each way and make sure you have enough power steering fluid in the reservoir when you do it.
    The system should bleed itself and remove the air from the lines. You still might have small air bubbles inside the lines but after a drive or two, they will go away. If not you need to check for leaks. Did you tighten all hoses correctly? If it leaks or draws in air, you might need to replace the clamps that hold the hoses or check if the hoses are bad.
    Good luck and let me know what happens.
  • Ok, well I had to delay my repair for a week due to rain, but got it done today. Everything is working fine now, the new resevoir worked. Took me just over an hour to do, of which 55 minutes was getting the back hose off. Everything else was easy.
    Thanks everyone, this message thread saved me about $800 as the mechanic wanted to switch out the rack, he said $800 was a great deal....
  • Just wanted to add a +1 to this topic. Had a nasty whine in my power steering system that had been gradually getting worse. I was getting ready to bring it in to have the system looked at when I stumbled on this forum. I went and bought the part this morning for $30. It took me about 45minutes total to replace the reservoir and get the system back up to the proper level. The hardest part of the job for me was getting the hose off of the back of the reservoir. That probably took me a good 20 miuntes out of the 45 for the whole job. I am glad to report that as with the others that have already posted my whine is now completely gone. Now I just need to replace my idler pully and all will be well for now.
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