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Triumph Spitfire

royvp1076royvp1076 Posts: 1
edited March 7 in BMW
I plan to sell my 1973 Triumph Spitfire which is
in excellant condition with 80K miles and have no
idea of its value. Any advise would be appreciated
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Okay, you have a Mark IV model then. This has some plusses and minuses. The plusses are a full-synchro transmission and a nicer interior; the big minus is yet a further drop in horsepower which makes this car pretty slow for a sports car.

    So it's not the best Spitfire (pre 1971s would be), nor the worst (the 1500 would probably take that title because of very shoddy build quality).

    Anyway, all that being said, if you were offered anywhere from $2,500 to $3,500 for it, I'd suggest accepting it.

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  • spnxspnx Posts: 37
    I know it's not precisely on topic, but I just want to add that putting an aftermarket exhaust header on that car *completely* transforms it - much more power! The stock header must be very restrictive.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    The whole engine/exhaust design is a botch...anything that can be done to make the engine breath better, get more fuel, etc., would help a lot...of course, in California we can't do that unless the vehicle is 1973 or older.

    I usually tell people that the best Spitfire would be a combination of old and new Spitfires...using the suspension and transmission from the newer ones but the older engine and older body style.

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  • How's this for an interesting combo.....GT-6 frame, engine etc and Spitfire body. I saw a such a car for sale on a specialty car sale showroom site on the internet. Donor GT6 and rebodied with the Spitfire rear panels. Seems like the best of both worlds to me...GT-6 power and open air pleasure! Of course this isn't stock but what the heck. I had a '69 GT6+ many years ago that was just a lot of fun and pretty fast too. I wish it had been a convertible though.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Well, the TR6 is something like that, kind of a big lazy engine that cruises well, and offers classsic British look and feel.

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  • That's true...I love the TR-6. I have always wanted one. I just thought that the GT-6/Spit combo was kind of interesting, but somewhat redundant with the TR-6 in the Triumph stable.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking...it's a lot of work and you don't end up with something all that special really...but sometimes just for the sake of a hobby, it's fun to create projects like that.

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  • ded42ded42 Posts: 7
    Mr. Shiftright, you got it right! Not the fastest 2 seater, but there's nothing else like it. I owned 2 6's in the early eighties. Paid 3500.00 for the first one, 1974, burnt orange, black inside, no overdrive. It was truly mint but... stolen @#$%. The second was a 74 also, repainted, not mint at all, w/od. Transmission failed, had to sell at next to nothing. (I was just starting out $wise) My first TR-6 was totally reliable, and so great on the highway. It felt good to see that hood stretching out in front of you, the wood dash, and the exhaust sound with the top down. Great trunk space for a sports car also. Would love to get another in the future. Do you know the real reason for discontinuing the TR-6 in 1976?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    I suppose it was just another blockheaded automotive decision by British management of the times. After all, then came the TR-7, which had to be one of the worst cars in the world, and soon after, the death of MG, another bad decision. The hits just kept on coming back in those grim days.

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  • ded42ded42 Posts: 7
    Yes, now I remember,British Leland had a young lady working for them. What was her name? Oh yeh, it was Miss Management.I think she worked for a number of automotive firms through the years. As far as reliability goes, now that I think back, we had an excellent garage in Branford Ct. that specialized in british imports. The owner had a real passion for getting it right and took his craft very seriously. Hope there are still mechanics like him these days. He made my TR-6 reliable. Thanks for the response.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Yes, there are mechanics like him, but I don't know as they are very successful businessmen as much as lovers of what they do.

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  • pellarbypellarby Posts: 1
    I have been catching-up on my reading, and noticed an "almost-thread" on why Triumph went out of business. Interesting theories, most of which are correct, but only components fo the entire truth.

    I worked at Triumph from 1975 to 1980 (sorry, guys - some of the synchro in the Spitfire gearbox is my design!), and watched a company be torn apart by Unions asking for more money than the company had, laws (primarily in the US) limiting the sale of convertibles, little R&D being done for new models, the recruiting of the best and brightest engineers and managers to other British Leyland divisions (Rover and Jaguar in particular), low pay, poor moral, old equipment, etc., etc. In short, just about everybody (but especially Michael Edwards) had a hand in their demise. I was in Coventry last year, and it was so sad to see the Canley and Tile Hill plants no longer there.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Yes, thank you for that interesting information. It was certainly a grim era in the British automotive industry.

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  • igloomasterigloomaster Posts: 249
    My mom had a TR4, and loved it, but said she had to get it tuned-up constantly. Anyone know specifically why? I know somewhere to get one, but I'm not sure if I should.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Because no one knew how to tune it up in the first place is why...it's a simple little engine that really a mechanic from 1925 would feel comfortable with. I don't know why she would have such trouble getting it in tune....you got 4 cylinders, 4 spark plugs, a set of points, distributor cap and rotor, and two SU carbs with three moving parts in each carb. Also you can set the valve clearance with your thumb no doubt. This car is not rocket science.

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  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    There lies your problem-A mechanic from 1925 would feel comfortable with it, so to a mechanic from 2000, it might as well be rocket science. If it doesn't have that little plug under the dash where the mechanic can plug in his brain-er, I mean computer (hey, it does most of the thinking!)- then he won't know where to begin on the car.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    But modern mechanics are generally pretty smart people. If you can fix a leaking faucet, you can fix a Triumph Spitfire. And the principles of ignition, fuel and engine compression are still the same. The person trying to fix that car must have been pretty lame.

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  • I'll never forget driving my spitfire from Chicago to Milwaukee in a driving sleet when the windsheild wipers, defrost fan, and lights all went out. what a joy!
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Made by Lucas?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Come on, where's you sense of adventure. It would have been SO BORING in a Camry :)

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  • lokkilokki Posts: 1,200
    A friend owned a GT-6 back in the early 70's. We drove from Pennsylvania to Ohio and participated in a rally.. great fun. Got lost a lot and uhm, had to drive 'quickly' a lot to get back on schedule... Then after the award ceremony with dinner and drinks, we discovered that the car had no lights... Had to drive home 150 miles with one friend's car in front of us acting as our headlights and one friend's car behind us to be our taillights... now that was an Adventure.

    Anybody know why you can't buy cars like that anymore?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Oh, safety and smog regulations, and people's tolerance is very low these days for eccentricity. It's quite common these days for people to complain when their engine "only" goes 125,000 before it needs work!

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  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    that clown who came here looking to drum up support for a class action suit against Mazda because their trannies only go 135k. It isn't often I feel sorry for major corporations, but...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Well, you know, he's upset...maybe just over-reacting to something that bums him out.

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  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    The tranny in my GTP went out twice and I wasn't too pleased, and it was under warranty.

    On the other hand, I just wonder how much people can reasonably expect to be protected from life. Things happen when you drive a beater, and I can tell you about them. But when the tranny in my Power Hawk went out, did I look to Studebaker, its heirs or successors, for compensation?
  • isrisr Posts: 2
    I will be going to an auction soon that has a 1970 GT6+. It looks to be in good shape body wise some restore work done. I hear the car runs, but I don't know much else. Does anyone know an estimate price range???
    Thanks
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Well, as a gauge you should be able to buy a very clean, good running car that's ready to go for $3,500. So if it needs paint and bodywork you can see that the value of the auction car isn't very much.

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  • isrisr Posts: 2
    FYI

    Thanks for the help. This went for $3100. It was the orginal owner, 56,000 miles, and the clutch needed work. They did start it. Over all it looked good and did not sound bad.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,648
    Well, sounds like a typical public auction price...higher than you could have bought it privately, but not so bad if you did the clutch work yourself. Fair enough for buyer and seller at $3,100.

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  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    I just found this board regarding Spitfires, but I'm hoping someone is still out there. My dad has a 1964 Spitfire MK 1 that has been sitting in his backyard with a car cover on it for a few years. I think the last time we started it was 5-7 years ago. I am trying to get him to let me try to get it into running condition, and then work on restoring it. Does anyone have any suggestions as where to start? I am assuming I would have to drain the oil from the engine somehow and flush it before anything else. I must also admit that my knowledge of cars is very basic.

    TIA
    Mark
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