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Honda Odyssey vibration

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  • mdarlamdarla Posts: 5
    Try checking the axles. you might find some thing wrong with axles.
    coz, for me they found out the problem with axle.

    thanks
  • jjpcatjjpcat Posts: 118
    As you may know, there are recently 2 recalls. One is for soft brake pedal. The other is transmission noise. I had the dealer fix both recalls. I immediately notice the shifting pattern is different. That itself might not be an issue as they changed the transmission shifting program. However, the van is now shaking frequently (but not always) when my foot is on the gas pedal. It isn't wheel alignment or tire balancing. Anyone has the same experience? The van has only 14k miles but it's already out of the warranty.
  • tsaistsais Posts: 17
    How is your '07 Odyssey with 14k out of warranty? The transmission is under 5year/60000 mile warranty.

    I've been waiting for a real fix for the transmission vibration problem @1400rpm/about 45mph, but I haven't seen one yet.
  • jjpcatjjpcat Posts: 118
    Thanks tsais. If the issue is with the transmission, then it is still under warranty. I will take it it for a diag.
  • Just wanted to let everyone know that my torque converter was replaced October 2009. Over the past few weeks, I have been feeling the shuddering problem again! Has anyone else had the shuddering problem return?
  • claim5claim5 Posts: 22
    I also had my torque converter replaced in 2009, and have no problems at all. My dealer has tried several times to get me to let them do another software upgrade (according to recall notice) but I refused, and am better off for it. Six trips since then from Chicago to St. Paul have averaged 28 mpg, I'm very happy with my 07 Odyssey.
    43,000 miles gone, time for new tires. :)
  • deeleedeelee Posts: 35
    I had my torque converter replaced 3/6/2010. So far so good. I worry about it failing, because I know of a couple of people who have a second torque converter put in. Of course, they have a new software update a couple of months ago.They installed when I took my van in for the squishy break problem recall and didn't mention it until after they installed it without my permission. My van has been running great and I was not happy about them putting anymore of their worthless software on it. Anyway I am keeping my fingers crossed about the torque converter.
  • ddssjskddssjsk Posts: 26
    Also had mine replaced last october. Had the second update done also. So far no shudder. Fuel economy sucks. 21.5 mpg. max freeway. Low as12.5 mpg. city. Before last update 26 mpg and 16 mpg. Will get rid of this ride after powertrain warranty expires. 07 Touring less than 36,000 miles. Has taught me to hate, hate, hate. honda.
    This was my third but no more.
  • I had vibration problems on my 2005 Odyssey. It started around 60-70K miles. Finally at 86K miles my mechanic found the engine mount was bad. A VERY common problem on Odysseys apparently. Total repair = $745.00

    This problem is so common according to my mechanic and the pages and pages of internet info reporting the same problem support that. Honda refuses to acknowledge the issue and will not help the customer. I guess I know I can't buy a honda ever again. I do think a class action suit should happen. If you multiply the thousands of Odysseys on the road w/ this issue by the cost of repair that averages around $1000 I'm guessing there are plenty of lawyers out there willing pursue this.

    It really makes me angry because I thought Honda was one of the last few auto makers that make quality products and support their customers. What options to I have?

    BTW - my brakes have been grinding loudly for 20K miles now. The mechanic says they are fine, but its common problem w/ Odyssey's from 04-08. Eventually I'll need to over haul the breaks and hubs. Power steering is getting worse and worse...also a common problem on this year of Odyssey. Power steering gives out at low speeds. I'll likely need to over haul the power steering as well. All before 100K miles. How can this be? I have a Nissan Maxima with 280K miles and I still have not had these types of problems.
  • Can you clarify. Did the motor mount solve the problem? I've got the 2005 Touring Odyssey and sounds like same problem. My dealer first told me Torque Converter and Motor Mounts. Then I took to transmission place since Honda would not cover under warranty (79,000 miles). It's still ridiculous that a Honda should have such problems. Anyway the transmission place said no problem with transmission and the motor mounts while slightly worn, did not need replacing. Let me know.
  • sreisssreiss Posts: 65
    FWIW, I have a 2007 Ody and have had both the torque converter and an engine mount replaced. This was within about 2 1/2 years of having the car, and around 30,000 miles. Symptoms were juddering at about 35 mph (common problem attributed to torque converter problems) and a hard thunk on downshift. This would typically happen on a fairly rapid deceleration at, say, a stop light. A long, gradual slowing to a stop would not cause the thunk. Presumably the rapid downshift by the transmission transmitted back through the engine itself and caused it to rock.

    Anyway, when I took it in for service they diagnosed the broken engine mount. Both were repaired under warranty and both have been fine for about 10 months now -- or I should say that I have not noticed the symptoms.

    I agree with those noting that they were shocked to experience such a thing from a Honda. I agree. I have owned many Hondas over the last 25 years and this, by far, is the worst mechanical issue I have seen. I was motivated to get the extended warranty as a result. I am equally motivated to look at other manufacturers when it comes time to replace the Ody.
  • jpzkzjpzkz Posts: 1
    I have a 2005 with 80K on it and have been monitoring the vibration problem on it. It is slowly getting worse and it is indeed the motor mount failing. When drivetrain gets under a bit of a load and the transmission has not downshifted, this is when you notice it most... this is the engine/tranny shaking as the mount is taking this stress. The part is expensive and so is labor. I've got several friends who are honda mechanics (I am as well but not for hondas) and they've told me (just as 2 Honda service advisors have) that the motor mount problem is very common on several Hondas. I agree this is really disappointing hit on Honda quality. No consumer help being offered certainly does not help.
  • deeleedeelee Posts: 35
    You need a torque converter. Insist on it! The gears are messed up and the torque converter must be replaced! Honda requires that you drive it 1000 miles with the newest software update before they will replace it. Your van shouldn't be stressing to shift gears at all!! I have been through this already. I had the torque replaced a year ago and haven't had a problem since. Make sure you have it done before the 60,000 mile end of warranty.
  • I agree with the other guy you need a torque converter. They tried the same bull on me lets replace the motor mounts at $950 a pop and see if it corrects the problem. The motor mounts are probably broken also but they are not causing the problem most likely. The torque converter solved my problem. Good way to do a cheap test is put some Shudder Stop in and if that helps control the shudder then it's your torque converter. Honda will not put in additives which I understand there reasoning for fixes, but I find absurd if it could be a quick diagnostic tool! If the torque converter destroyed you motor mounts, then it makes no sense to replace them and have them go again. By the way my 05 Odyssey with the"bad Motor Mount" works fine now that the torque converter has been replaced. I went to 2 outside mechanics and brought a pile of paper to the dealership and they succumbed to my request for a converter, which they made me pay half. Still pissed about paying.....
  • Thanks, Honda did replace torque converter, but it turned out to be the wheel bearing, after I still the noise,vibration after they replaced the torque converter.
  • deeleedeelee Posts: 35
    Be careful about putting any fluids other than Honda into your transmission. If you tell them or they see a change in the color of the fluid it will null and void any warranty on it.
  • We just experienced the same problem with our '05, shuddering, need a new torque converter. We filed a complaint with Honda, and they called saying they will pay $1000 of the $2500 quote. They were tight lipped about how common the problem was and if there would be a recall, but claim if there is, we would be entitled to our money back. Anyone receiving any other type of reimbursement?
  • Ask them about warranty claims for this issue. Ask them about the Tech Line Summary ATS 100201 and tell them they have a design issue as noted in their SB 09-053. The TSB was updated and state that if software programming doesn't fix TC shudder, a new one is required.
  • three weeks ago brought my 2005 w 74K in to Honda w same shudder in the 30-40mph range. techs there used to be ford truck techs and they recognized it as similar to what ford went thru several years ago AND honda's recommended fix only w newer 2007s on is to replaced the fluid w a newer fluid to see if it would fix it. skeptical but had it power-flushed w new fluid for $288 and it immediately reduce to negligible the shudder!! altho not convinced this will cure shudder for very long, it has for now. curious to find if anyone just changing motor mounts, if that alone could be a solution?
  • The shuddering is not from bad engine mounts. We had collapsed engine mounts earlier in the life of our Odyssey and no shuddering issues.

    The problem is the torque converter. Unfortunately, you will receive the same defective design when it gets replaced. And Yes it will fail again in another 50-75k miles.

    Honda was replacing transmissions under the class action law suit with the same defective design - just rebuilt units. It was a smart strategy on their part because no money was spent on re-design or re-manufacturing.

    Some day all of the hidden Honda "goodwill" repairs for major mechanical failures will eventually reach Consumer Reports and the public.
  • Anyone check to see if the shudder on the TC has been corrected on 2011? Just hold RPM steady at about 1400 and speed steady to check for shudder.
  • tvh1tvh1 Posts: 1
    Same problem for me. Replaced rear mounts and two days later replaced TC. I will not be purchasing a Honda again. I paid a ton if money to get a great car. Too bad the company behind it has no integrity.
  • deeleedeelee Posts: 35
    If you check message 242 & 324 their are two people who complained about the 2010
    model. I haven't heard about 2011 models yet.
  • It is now official, product update for the 2010 Odyssey comes a year after my complaints.

    I'm gonna test drive a 2011 and see if they fixed it.
  • This poster has it right. My Ody vibrates at initial acceleration, and around 15, 30 and 45 MPH right after downshift (high engine loads at low RPM). The resonant vibration (accompanied by an irritating low and oscillating hum) causes the whole car to vibrate to include a harmonic vibration of the exhaust plumbing that makes a NASTY sound. Replaced TC, replaced all the (destroyed) mounts, lots of tweaks, all on warranty, but it was putting a band aid on cancer. I thought we had a lemon. Test drove another 07 tonight, and...same problem! The salesman was shocked when I demod it - nobody in a test drive ever stabilizes at those speeds - they are busy accelerating and braking, as I was 2 yrs ago. The service manager, when I told him the car was junk and I was selling it, finally gave it up that this is a "characteristic" of the car. BAD DESIGN and ENGINEERING. No fix. Would basically require a complete retool - BILLIONS$$$ for Honda. Sell now - this problem will destroy the car from inside out.
  • Hi:

    Can you tell me how you filed a complaint with honda?

    Thanks
    Sriram
  • I have a 2009 Odyssey, 18,000mi on it, no judder or any problem until I took it last week for an oil change to the dealership and they said, by the way, we did the transmission software update it needed. So I said OK. And as I'm driving out the dealership the van felt different, it wouldn't accelerate as sharp as always. Then a few days later I'm driving with the family going trough some hills and it was feeling that it wouldn't shift down when needed but late, or I would have to push it more for it to do it, before it would shift up and down easily and maintain the speed.) It definitely feels slower and know it judders a little bit. I'm planning to take it back.
    I need opinions?
  • deeleedeelee Posts: 35
    Poor Guy! That really sucks. The nerve of them, doing that without consulting you. I would be furious!!! I have had the problem since day one and they gave one worthless software update after another before they finally replaced the torque converter. Which is what I told them it needed in the first place. My 2007 van has been fine since. One year and counting. From what I've read, it will reoccur after 30-50,000 miles. My car will be out of warranty, but once you have this issue it is my understanding that they have to continue to fix it. Now that my Odyssey is running great I got the recall on the squishy brake pedal and then another on the brake seals and master cylinder?!! They kindly gave me another software update when I went back for the recall. I was mad. I told them not to do anything to my vehicle without letting me know. They gave me some crap about Honda requiring them to do it. I told them that I didn't give a xx!z0z!@. I finally got the thing running right please don't do anything to screw it up!!!
  • deeleedeelee Posts: 35
    Fight this, they have to compensate you something on their faulty transmission! they are well aware of this. Read up on the forum and you will get the whole scope.
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