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Where is Honda taking Acura?

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    Acura once made elegant looking cars/vehicles. With ZDX, looks as though they are regressing to Pontiac Aztek mentality. I will keep my 2004 TL. If they don't fix up their styling, and reduce their gadgetry/weight in TL, it will be adios Acura on next vehicle.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,923
    I was out for a walk the other day and walked by a new TL - ghastly. There isn't a panel without a weird crease.

    The preceding model was a fairly elegant vehicle. I suspect some of those will retain longterm owners like you. A used Type-S might not be a bad pre-owned thing to buy either.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,589
    stopped at the dealer today to check out a TSX (not for me, I am helping someone buy one). Not too bad, except for the beak.

    The TL though was very overdone, and even quite tacky. The interior was also way too busy and overstyled. Made my 2000 sitting outside look svelte and understated.

    the new RL they had was OK, but again the nose has to go.

    what is it with car makers trying to stick the same corporate nose on every car? Never seems to work on different sizes, although maybe if they designed a good looking one (something that Acura and Audi both failed at!) it would work better.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    Acura should have just continued with the front styling theme of the '99-'08 TLs.

    The new TSX styling doesn't look bad. However, rear seat leg room is rather tight. Also, the foot space for entering the back seat, between the edge of the rear seat cushion and the bottom of the B post is especially tight. Considering that this is a mid-size 4-door car, that design deficiency alone is a significant demerit. Check it out if you're seriously considering a new TSX.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,986
    "There's a certain level of confusion within the Acura line-up, we're in the midst of a big change. Post-Lehman we dropped the larger-than-V6 engine, and have to adjust to new consumer demands."

    New Honda President Lays Out a Few Goals(Straightline)
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    I'm beginning to wonder whether Acura will be relevant in a few years. Acura's current products are unappealing, in my opinion, and future products don't look promising.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    The only encouraging thing in all these recent announcements concerning Acura is that they are looking at going head to head with the 1-series coupe.

    I suppose it will be AWD on a FWD platform, which will eliminate it from true BMW competition, but at least we might finally have a fun Acura coupe under $30K again.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I finally saw a ZDX in person today, on the road. Honda should really be paying annual fines for causing the public to throw up, with that thing for sale. Move over Aztek, there's a new ugliest car EVER in town!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • plan_manplan_man Posts: 97
    Aaaaaa-men! :lemon:
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    Agreed! Finally two at my local Acura dealer last weekend and I just wanted to barf!! What the hell were they thinking. Like the TSX Wagon the ZDX is just going to be another one massive FAIL for Acura! :mad:
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I haven't seen a TSX wagon in person yet, but I don't think anything EVER could be as bad as the ZDX.

    I noted with amusement that one can lease a new TL for only $9/mo more than the TSX when I saw the TV ad last night. Just a hint of desperation there. I think if Audi holds the line just a bit on its pricing it is going to eat up Acura's sales with a spoon. Not to mention the new S60 looks pretty good, and who knows, people might even start buying new Lincolns - I saw the first new Lincoln in my area in ages the other day.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    edited May 2010
    I saw the TSX Wagon in person last month at the NY Auto Show and it was in blue barf barf barf :sick: :sick: :sick: !

    Instead of bringing out butt ugly things like the ZDX and TSX Wagon, they should be focusing on completely gutting and redesigning the RL, which is an absolute shame that Acura neglected it and put it down the toilet like they did and bring out some sport coupes, like the NSX and CL again!!!
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    Knock, knock. Is anyone home?
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    Acura still sells the RL, but it just doesn't sell.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,923
    I don't think I have seen a single facelifted RL on the road.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I too have not seen any 2009+ RLs on the road as of yet either! It just sells so badly for Acura. It needs to be scrapped and completely redone and I don't have the slightest clue why Acura is procrastinating on it :confuse: :sick:
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    earlier this week that stated Honda will be dropping the Legend from its home market lineup. Guess that means it's adios to the TOTALLY pointless RL as well, eh? Talk about a great line of cars coming to an ignominious end. Anyone besides me remember the first Legend?

    In 10 short years HMC fell completely off its game with both the Honda and Acura lineups in America. It's no wonder nobody cares. The Cross Tour and the ZDX?? What were they thinking?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    no, I made the mistake as well but autoblog and Acura issued a correction later that day! The Legend in Japan is being discontinued but the RL here in the States is remaining as Acura's flagship!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    why bother?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I agree. It would be a different thing if Acura had come out and said or at least hinted of their plans for the RL, such as completely redoing it, where it was going to compete, etc but we have gotten diddly quat from Acura other then they are going to be keeping it here.

    They know it sells very poorly, so why not at least give some of us Acura buyers some hope that they are going to turn that car around in the near future?? Just boggles the mind.
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