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Honda Pilot Tires and Wheels

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  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    The mfg recommended pressure is there to give the best ride, mileage and longevity of the tire, depending on the weight of the vehicle.

    A heavier vehicle might call for more tire pressure. In the case of a tire with 50# max on the sidewall simply means the tire should not be used on a vehicle that requires more than 50# and don't inflate to more than 50#..

    Over inflating a tire for the vehicles weight will increase mileage a bit. HOWEVER the reason for this increase is that there is less tire tread on the road to cause resistance to rolling. The Pilot, in this case, will be riding on the center of the tire's treads, and those treads will wear faster that the outer treads. Usable tire will wear out much faster. Less tread on the road can also result in longer stopping distances as well as less tread on the road to hold the car tracking in emergency maneuvers. Less traction!! What is saved in fuel will be spent many times over in early tire replacement, ride and safety.

    Keep in mind that just a few inches difference in stopping can make the difference in hitting something or barely missing it.

    Under inflated tires result in the outer tread wearing quicker than the middle tread, poorer mileage due to excessive rolling resistance, and sidewalls squashing (rolling over) easier on emergency maneuvers.

    Automotive manufactures pay folks a heap of money to develop the best tire pressure for the various vehicles. A Pilot may come with 1 of several makes of tires, yet the recommended pressure is probably the same.

    My 03 Pilot has Goodyear Integra tires and the recommended pressure is 32# as my car and yours weight about the same.

    You trusted them to build a reliable car. So trust them to know the best pressure for the tires they put on it. The KEY is to know if your tire gauge is accurate.

    I get near 26 MPG on the highway with 2 aboard at at 65 miles per hour. The car has near 40K miles on the clock, and the tire tread is at about half.

    I recently did the "Chalk" test again, and the result showed 34# best for my tires and my car, using the gauge I keep in it, and use on that car only. Another tire gauge, I keep in the CR-V, shows the Pilot tires at 32 pounds. I don't know which gauge is correct, but I use just the Pilot's gauge and things seems to work out well at 34# . The CR-V's gauge is used exclusive for the CR-V. The key is to have the entire tread exerting the same pressure on the road. That way the tires wear evenly, last longer, ride the best, and handle as they should.

    (Chalk test can be viewed on post 61.)

    Kip.
  • I am doing my research as it is time to get new tires for my 2003 Honda Pilot. I bought it new with Integrity tires that did well. We had to replace them on the road after a blow out (hubby hit something). Don't remember what thoes were, but needed to be replaced within 25000miles. The new tires are horrible as we have had a lot of difficulty with balancing my tires and it has affecting wear. It took over 50,000 miles for the first set to need replacing, and I have gone through 2 sets of tires over the similar mileage. I thought about going back to the Integrity tires, but now am reading about the "road loading" thing and wondering if that affected the wear on the 2nd and 3rd sets. Can anyone tell me more about this? :confuse:
  • What type of spare tire does the 4WD 2010 EX-L and the 2010 Touring 4WD have?

    Is it compact or full size, I'm unable to get a consistent answer from salespeople at dealerships.

    Thanks
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Found out yesterday that the spare on my '03 Pilot EX-L is a "Temporary". It is imprinted on the sidewall in large letters.

    If everything else fails, look under the car. The tire/wheel are easily visible. If the wheel is an ugly black thing, the tire is most likely a thin but correct height temporary. It is rated to hold 60# of air and not be driven over 50 mph.

    With a flashlight you may be able to see "Temporary" on the side wall.

    NOTE: FWIW the valve stem is facing up, so the tire has to be lowered to check the air pressure.

    Mine had 15#. Recon I need to check it more often than every 7 years. :sick:

    Kip
  • Kip

    Thanks for your reply. One would think sales staff would have the answer which leads me to believe they either just don't know or just skirting the issue. Ironically the 2010 brochure neglects to mention the spare tire.
    Even called a general manager of a local dealership, he claimed he doesn't know and has not gotten back to me. I asked two owners I saw parked at a local mall and neither had a clue.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Just so happens that I had the spare out yesterday (1st time) to make room to change out the VTM fluid.

    I'm thinking that a tire rotation , as done these days, is simply moving the front tires to the back and visa versa. So a temporary spare is no big deal, and the spare would not be used in the rotation anyway. But I could be wrong on that.

    I keep a can of "Fix a Flat" and a small electric tire pump that plugs into one of the Pilot's Power outlets, just in case. The spare was really nasty, and would be a real hassle if seriously needed.

    Overall we have been extremely pleased with our Pilot. Not unusual to get 25-28 MPG on the road at 60-70 mph. Not bad for a 4WD vehicle of this size and weight.

    As a first year model, it has had it's share of recalls and a few, (very few) problems. Biggest complaint I have is road noise and wind noise. But my understanding is that the latest models have addressed those problems.

    We recently replaced my wifes 03 CR-V with a new 09 Toyota RAV4. While we were there I checked out a Highlander. From what I've read the Highlander is 1-2 seconds quicker to 60 mph than the Pilot and is rated at a bit better mileage. And that is a good thing. However even our 03 Pilot just simply seems better built with better quality. More storage inside and a more solid feel. Just wish it had the "PERFORMANCE" of the Highlander. :shades:
  • I understand the Honda temp tire is recommend for about 60 miles at 50mph. My trips are about 400 miles of all night freeway driving in areas without tire service. The can of tire repair is a good suggestion. Does the pilot come with a full size rim and will the vehicle accommodate a full size spare?

    Thanks again.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    As close as I can measure up side down, the diameter of the rim looks to be the same as the wheels on the ground, but not as wide.

    Disclaimer: The following is the way I do it. Not necessarily the way anyone else would. Works for me, but may not for you. These are simply suggestions. Proceed at your own risk.

    Options:

    - try mounting a narrower "Real" tire on the spare rim
    - see if dealer can supply you a real rim and tire (expensive)
    - from a tire store, purchase a cheap painted rim and a tire with the same height as the ones on the ground.

    Looks to be plenty of room in the spare well for a full size set up

    The "Fix-a-Flat" can is about the size of a can of spray paint. Not enough air to pump up a tire. It contains a powder that will clog up a small hole. Such as made by a nail and the nail is still in the tire.

    NOTE: I've been told that Fix-A-Flat can mess up the air pressure device on the tire monitoring system of the tire it was put into. I think the device is on the valve stem itself or on the valve cap.

    Leave the nail in the tire, spray in the "Fix-a-Flat and pump up the tire with a small compressor. It is self contained, the 15-20 foot wire and the hose are stored inside the unit, It will plug into any of the round 1" diameter "Power Ports", (cigar lighter) and so forth in your car. Seems mine came from Wal-Mart Automotive Department and cost $30-$40. Weighs just 1-2 # and has a red light that can be set to blink or not blink. Also a built in pressure gauge to let you know how much pressure is in the tire. Most automotive stores/departments sell them. Mine is old and relatively slow and pumps up a tire at a rate of about 2# per minute. But it has pumped up a lot of tires over the years. Mostly stranger's tires. A totally flat tire might take 15-18 minutes to pump up, but a low tire may only take 5 minutes or so.

    The newer compressors are much faster than mine. Just be sure it doesn't pull more current than the circuit is fused at. My Pilot's rear Power outlet is rated at 10 amps. I've never blown a fuse with the compressor. Either the box or a label on the compressor will tell you how many amps it draws. ie "8 amp input"

    For a hole where the nail came out, the powder may not work and I would not even try, Instead, use a tubeless tire patch kit similar to the one tire stores use. It is a small hand held device that pushes a small piece of rubber into the hole. The rubber is covered with glue and stays in place if the hole doesn't have powder in it. Then pump up the tire with the mini compressor. If the hole isn't easy to find, pump some air into the tire and listen for the escaping air.

    If the tire is cut- Break out the spare! :sick:

    Think about this: You get a flat in the middle of nowhere. You put on the spare and now you have no back up tire in case you get another flat. I prefer to fix, patch, or repair the tire while it is still on the vehicle if possible, and still have the spare available. Tire patch kits and jumper cables are in all my vehicles. And in case some bad person wants to take advantage of my plight? I have the means to defend me and mine! :shades:

    Kip
  • Thanks, I appreciate the info.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Read the note concerning the tire pressure monitoring system.
  • I have a 2007 Pilot and my TPMS indicator is on at least once a month. The tire pressure is ~22 when the light comes on. It happens randomly to any of the tires, all the time. The dealer has been unhelpful; tells me that "wide temperature changes cause tire pressure changes." I'm in So Cal; that answer is ridiculous.
    I've met other Honda owners at gas stations putting air in their tires with the same problem. Anyone else with the same issue? Anyone who's got a fix? This is a really annoying problem.
    :confuse:
  • HELP.....
    I'm on my 3rd set of new tires in the past 30 days and can not eliminate the vibration experienced at speeds of 65-80MPH. The tires feel like they have a "waddle" or are slightly out of balance. I've tried two sets of Firestones(present set is Destination LE) and the General Grabber HTS. The present set was installed by TireRack and supposedly RoadForce Variation balanced. Vehicle only has 55,000 miles and I NEVER had an issue at all with the original GoodYear Integritys.
    I see that others have had this issue too but haven't seen any firm resolutions.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    You might want to consider getting the tires installed and balanced at your local Honda dealer.

    Our Honda dealer matches the price of local tire dealers. We had a set of Michelin "Harmony" installed by the dealer, on my wifes CR-V, and they ran fine.

    Nobody knows your Honda as well as your Honda dealer. :)

    Kip
  • tb22tb22 Posts: 2
    The spare tire retention system on my Honda Pilot is broken. I turn the hex nut and the wire neither raises nor lowers the tire. Any help on a fix or replacement would be appreciated.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    What position is the tire in right now?
  • tb22tb22 Posts: 2
    I removed the spare tire and removed the crank assembly.
  • glv2glv2 Posts: 7
    I have a 2006 with the original Bridgestone tires on it. They have @ 45,000 mi on them and I am looking to replace them soon. Which are the best replacement tires for this Pilot?
  • After 3 sets in 45 days, I ended up with the Michelin Cross Terrains. By far the best tire for my Pilot. I had vibration issues with the General Grabber HTS, Firestone Destination AT and Destination LE.
  • I went to a new owner clinic at our dealer in January after buying our 2010 Pilot. The dealer's service people said they suggest inflating the tired 4 lbs over what it says on the door, and that gives enough play to keep the TPMS from going off. Now, I'm at altitude in Denver, so you may need a different number where you are. But we have huge swings in temps, as much as 50 degrees in 24 hours, and so far (knock on wood) the TPMS hasn't gone off.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    10 degree lower mean 1 lb less ... calculate the difference of low temp and the temp you are putting in air ... add 2 extra pound if temp is 50 degree time you add air and the avg low is 30 degree.
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