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Honda CR-V Navigation System

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  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,424
    i'm in full agreement w you ken if you could live with out the dealer installed nav system the garmin nuvi are money well spent and saved.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    edited October 2012
    To bad the backup camera is coupled with the Honda Navi....it's actually a useful feature!
  • wds1wds1 Posts: 23
    My parents, who are senior citizens, have finally decide to purchase a 2013 CR-V. They test drove a CR-V w/NAV. It is not because they had to have navigation, but it was available in the int./ext. color they wanted. They liked how the back up camera is largely viewed in the NAV screen. If you purchase NAV, aren't you getting an expanded view with the back up camera? Also, what are your thoughts on the 2013 NAV? Is it improved over the 2012, at all? If you are a senior, do you think the easy to see camera in the NAV area is a good safety feature? Thanks for any input you can provide!
  • snukesnuke Posts: 81
    edited October 2012
    I am retired, a senior citizen and purchased a 2012 CR-V. I purposely bought the CR-V w/NAV because of the large screen which helped me see the backup camera view better along with the radio station names. (I am a music lover). Many have complained about the NAV being outdated and since I have never used a GPS, I can't say that it is or is not. But, like your parents, I love the large screen and I, too, wanted a specific color interior/exterior. I have searched high and low and have not been able to find the difference in the 2012 CR-V and 2013 CR-V. I have been a Honda owner for over 20-yrs. and my past experience with Honda is that they will slightly change the back and/or front lights on their vehicles and not much else. If your parents are able to find the color interior/exterior they want in a 2012 CR-V, they will probably get a better deal than on a 2013 especially since Honda did not seem to change much of anything between the two. Oh by the way, I love my 2012 CR-V which I have had since June.
  • Well, someone who has never used a cell phone would pick up a 2009 "flip phone" and think it was wonderful. With little or no frame of reference, the Honda NAV is great. However, I've owned a Garmin GPS and rented GPS equipment when travelling, travelled with others in luxury cars with NAV equupment so my frame of reference is wide-ranging. From your perspective, the Honda NAV is probably super, however, from mine, it is decidedly sub-par and is definately not worth the $1500 - $2000 that Honda charges for this antique (2009 vintage) NAV equipment. Good luck with your CR-V. Check your tires often...........I only got 16,000 miles from the factory tires and spent $1000, less than a year later to get a decent set of tires on the car. :cry:
  • wds1wds1 Posts: 23
    Thank you so much for you reply, Snuke. It really gives us a perspective from a senior citizen's point of view! They, too, have been long time Honda owners and are music lovers. The large screen is great, along with station listings, but I was a little concerned about their ability to use the navigation, as some have said it is not user friendly. One report I read said he wanted to pull it out and throw it out the window. HA! Anyway, I guess they will know more when they take a thorough look at it again when they visit the dealership. I don't think the CR-V's have changed from 2012 to 2013, other than some color changes, but they have just gotten an offer at invoice on the 2013. They are pleased with the OTD price, so I think they will take that offer, unless they decide to forgo the NAV. Thanks again for your input!
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,424
    I always find that my $200 Garmin Nuvi works much better than the dealer installed Nav system. Fast And very east to use. I have gotten the dealer Nav in 4 of my cars over the years and my wife is clueless and hates navigating thru them. Save your money.............

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • ken75ken75 Posts: 52
    My wife just took her car (the 2011 CR-V) to Olathe, Ks. from St.paul and when she got near KC, the lovely Honda navi system steered her right through the center of town. No matter how many times she tried to get to the East of KC the nav system would not give her an alternate route. If you have ever had the misfortune of going through KC without really being familiar with it, good luck. The large screen is very nice to look at and the set up is easy but if it will not take you on the route you would like to take, it is not worth the extra money. My wife is a smart lady and knows how to use this thing so if she says not good things about it, we may just have to look at something with a decent nav system or as I stated previously, install a permanent Garmin Nuvi and that will solve the problem. At any rate, this will be the last Honda.
  • bmfcbmfc Posts: 8
    I type in the name of a local business and the NAV gives me listings in other states. I'm in MD and for a restaurant 10 minutes away, it gave me a restaurant with the same name in Texas. The system doesn't comprehend where you are.

    I bought the new disc. There's a new highway near me but the new disc only picks up HALF of the highway. That's right: I'm on it and the system has me on vacant land but eventually picks it up. How does this make sense?
  • To all CR-V owners who are displeased with the NAV system: you ought to send a complaint fax to American Honda, Customer Service, fax #(310) 783-3023. It appears Honda got stuck with a bunch of 2008 or earlier NAV systems when car sales dropped then and have been offing them on 2009, 2010, 2011, and, apparently, 2012 models to get rid of them. This is supposition since my CR-V 2011 NAV system and the others has deficiencies that were in some earlier models from manufacturers in China. I checked to try to replace mine and found many companies selling outdated NAV systems, with backup camera, etc. for around $300 to $500.

    I have written to Honda USA, Japan, all corporate officers I could find addresses for. They finally gave me a $500 dealer credit with which I bought a update disc that really didn’t solve the problem at all, especially the Bluetooth deficiencies that are outlined in manuals but don’t function on the system (to get around that, they list phones that are “fully compatible,” yet no phone available in the U.S. as of September of this year is “fully compatible” with the outdated system in CR-V’s). I also purchased the deluxe mirror, which, along with fog lights, should have been on a “fully equipped” model as our CR-V was promoted to be.

    Just word to the wise FYI: be sure to check your factory equipped tires on the CR-V since ours went 16,000 miles, down to 1/32nd", and we replaced them with decent tires, costing $1000. Every “luxury car” I have ever purchased had premium tires and a decent battery (the battery crapped out in 11 months. ) Honda shame on you!!
  • Thanks for the information. I purchased my 2012 CRV EXL in May. Since then, I have had two instances where the navigation system could not find the address of a well known store and hotel. When I entered the name of the store, it gave me a listing in Oregon, North Carolina? Same with the well known hotel. I am in California! My portable Garmin GPS did not give me this much trouble. I am disappointed in this feature. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to enter the street address without splitting the name of the city or street and then entering the street number. Google maps has the address as "Third" St. The street sign indicated "3rd" St. It is obvious that the system cannot distinguish from the two ways of spelling.

    I have Continental Pro Cross tires on the car. I hope I get some decent wear on them.
  • There's a lot the Honda CRV-11 can't do and it would appear later editions are no better. I battled for some consideration from Honda for many months and, during that time, here at Edmunds and elsewhere, I received many Honda CR-V owner comments similar to yours and mine. It was our determination, though speculative, that Honda had ordered many thousands of the NAV systems in 2008 or before and then sales dropped so they failed to unload as many as they had on the shelf. Compared to other in-dash systems, (not to mention Garmins) it is steam-powered. The Bluetooth features are terribly deficient and, to cover that in their marketing, promotional materials and manuals, they attempt to blame it on owners' phones as being "not compatible" when, in fact, no phone produced in the U.S. IS compatible. Anyway, I've looked at some after-market systems and, as soon as the warranty runs out on this, I'll be replace mine with something that is commenserate with other late model autos that really are equipped with late model equipment.

    Oh, also, we got only 16,000 miles on our factory equipped tires. Outrageous! and, for a "loaded" car, we wound up putting a good rear view mirror and fog lights on which, along with the tires, set us back almost $2000.
  • it's quite amazing to be reading about this problem today. My '07 Acura has a laughable POI database; I reported back in '08 that a search for Shopping / Costco, while sitting in the Bay Area (CA), would bring up 'hits' in Alabama or Oregon or whatever, and the problem was widespread across multiple businesses and categories. I have resolved use my iPhone for initial address lookup, then I plug the address into the GPS (at which point it does a very good job of actually getting me there). You would think that they would have cleared this up by now, since it's a simple problem to fix (just have the database cleaned up - I could fix this myself in a week or two if I had access to all the info).

    Any <$200 Garmin or Magellan or whatever gets this right; whoever works on the (Alpine?) solution should be fired for this!

    Having said that, I'll still buy the 'Nav' model just because it's always there, requires no wiring, etc, and - as mentioned - does a good job of getting you there once you do find your destination.
  • I don't bother much with the Honda's NAV system, even though it cost $1500, anymore. I use Google Maps, MapQuest, my phone or Garmin. I just figure the $1500 is wasted, as if I had bet black on a roulette table and it came up red.

    As for the tires, it was Continential that last us 16k. Our roads here in Nevada are very mountainous and we have extreme weather so maybe you'll do better.
  • vat19vat19 Posts: 5
    Hi John, we just bought a pair of CRV 2013, one LX and One EX. Do you know of a good after market Nav system? I am wanting a GPS to speak thru the car speakers and interupt the music when giving you directions, very much like when you receive a phone call. Thanks in advance
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,005
    edited March 2013
    Try the Navigation GPS Systems discussion too.

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  • vat19vat19 Posts: 5
    Thank you Steve
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,005
    Interesting comment you made about skipping the NAV as it was a very expensive upgrade for 2008 technology. Honda reads these boards; maybe they'll get it figured out soon.

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  • vat19vat19 Posts: 5
    Yes Steve, I bought 2 CRV 2013 in the last 2 months, one an LX and one EX. Honda does not allow the built in NAV system as an upgrade or add on feature. If you want a built in NAV system they are forcing you to purchase an EX-L-NAV, which has the leather seats and a few other options, like upgraded stereo including a sub woofer which does not perform, dual zone AC, Auto climate control , electric seats and heated seats etc. The additional difference is $3,000 more. I have read in a forum where the NAV systems they are putting in these cars are old technology units that apparently you can purchase off ebay for about $300-$500. The CRV is great. I am on my second tank of gas and I am currently getting 33.9mpg according to the on board computer.. I just wish I can find a GPS NAV unit or system that would be able to intergrate with Honda's I-Mid system.
  • The 2011 NAV (actually an older one they had on inventory and wanted to get rid of, as far as we can tell) does interrupt music to give directions, incoming calls. My problems with the system were primarily incompatibility with 2011 Bluetooth technology and they tried to cover it up by having this gird of "compatable" phones and no phone then made in the U.S. was compatable enough to utilize all Bluetooth features. Pretty sly.

    Also, as for accurate directions, it is OK most of the time but not as good as Garmin or even Google Maps, Mapquest. I paid $1500 for it and they nailed me for a "Update CD" that was $185, a year later. They've since issued another "Update CD" but I didn't buy it between my Garmin and phone, I have all the navigation I need. The Bluetooth problem is hard wired in the NAV system and can't be fixed or improved with an "Update CD."

    While looking for an aftermarket NAV system to replace the crappy Honda system, I ran across this company: http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN-China.html

    They are basically wholesale (probably where Honda gets their NAV system) but do sell indivually on some equipment. They have literally hundreds of NAV systems that all appear to be better than the one in my 2011 Honda CRV. I think that may be because the one Honda put in my car was a model they couldn't sell in 2008 and technology on all such equipment is much improved now. Anyway, they sell units made specifically for the CRV and, even with shipping from China, they're about 1/3rd what we paid for the Honda CRV. Be advised, however, if you replace the factory equipped NAV, the warranty is violated. I can't vouch for the quality of their stuff but I do see this company in a lot of literature about big wholesale sellers in China. (I wound up not buying a replacement NAV since I use my Garmin or phone to navigate and most of the other features on the Honda NAV are OK.)
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