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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    Yep, MSRP for a SEL AWD is almost $28k. Base Legacy is around $20,500. Plus the $150 Alaska deliver charge that Subaru tags you with. :shades:

    Option them up to be more comparable and the price difference may ease a bit.

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  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    Pics look interesting. Guess no more v6:( Overall I like the looks, hybrid looks interesting, i wonder how much the electric model will cost.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    edited January 2012
    Visually, this is a stunning improvement over the outgoing model; I'm curious as to whether the driving dynamics can live up to the promise its looks convey. Honestly, I think the engine choices will result in a reasonably peppy sedan with better economy than the V6. The only reservation I have with the engine choices relates to longevity. I'm not convinced yet that boosted engines will enjoy the same life expectancy as their non-aspirated counterparts.

    That said, the available powertrains also create a little more differentiation between this car and the flagship Taurus.

    Actually, in terms of engine choices, aligning the Fusion this way, in combination with the sizes of all four car models, provides a logical progression from model to model in the lineup. Impressively so.
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  • podpod Posts: 176
    The looks of the new Fusion are certainly different and the power train options are new with no V6 and now turbos and hybrids, etc. I cannot figure out whether there are substantial changes to the 270 HP I4 6speed driving dynamics. Are the changes for this engine choice primarily cosmetic or have there been changes to the engine or suspension or some other major system which will affect driving dynamics. I have a 2010 Milan I4 and am very pleased. Would the 2013 drive differently. I know it will look different but will it drive differently?
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    edited January 2012
    "Overall, CNW found that Ford has seen a 10-percent decline in the average age of its primary drivers since 2005, from 58.4 years to 52.5 years.

    “Much of that is a reflection of a strong message to younger consumers with Fiesta and high use of social media,” Spinella surmised."

    Primary Drivers’ Median Age Tells a Tale (autoremarketing.com)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    That's a good thing, as it means a higher chance of repeat buyers assuming those owners have a good experience with their current product.

    I haven't tried out the new Impreza yet, but so far the Fiesta is still at the top of my list to replace my Escort. I'm hoping they come out with the ST in the next year. If they do, that'll be it.
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    Ford tidbits:

    "Ford reported its 11th consecutive profitable quarter.

    It was another good solid year, but the gains weren’t quite as dramatic as in previous years.

    In the fourth quarter, the Dearborn, Michigan-based automaker was hamstrung by a weakening European market and flooding in Thailand that wiped out profits in its Asian operations, Chief Financial Officer Lewis Booth said today.

    U.S. consumers paid an average of $32,028 for the company’s models last year, up 25 percent from 2002 and the highest price Ford vehicles have ever commanded, according to online auto researcher Edmunds.com.

    Automotive debt, which excludes Ford Motor Credit (F1), was $13.1 billion at year’s end, an increase from $12.7 billion on Sept. 30, the company said.

    The debt rose in the quarter primarily because it tapped loans from the U.S. Department of Energy that boosted its obligations by $300 million, the automaker said. The federal loans are being used to produce fuel-efficient cars."

    Ford Fall Short of Profit Estimates (Bloomberg)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    It can't always be roses. Ford's direction is positive and strong, so I think they'll continue to shake off their old stigmas as long as they stay the course and keep quality high.

    They really need to sort out Lincoln and strengthen its brand as well. That, I think, would provide a solid (image) boost.
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    Remember that $300 million part the next time someone lauds Ford for not taking any federal money. ;)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    Loans are a part of doing business. It doesn't bother me much, but then I'm pretty easy-going. :P
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    "Ford Motor Co. also said its U.S. sales rose 7.3% to 136,294 cars and light trucks. Ford was boosted by strong sales of its Focus compact car, on which the auto maker began offering extra cash incentives in January to help lower excess inventories.

    The positive momentum should continue in the first quarter. Overall economic growth should continue in the 2% to 3% range," said Jenny Lin, a Ford economist, in a conference call today."

    January U.S. Auto Sales Jump (WSJ)

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  • temj12temj12 Posts: 450
    I attended the auto show in Detroit. The Lincoln concept looked good and it promises to be close to the actual car. The styling should increase their market share. They have a separate design group working exclusively with Lincoln. Dan Akerson, CEO of GM, said good luck in trying to catch Cadillac. He better hope he is right.
  • jerrys2jerrys2 Posts: 188
    If Lincoln hopes to compete with Cadillac (or Lexus,etc.) they must upgrade their dealerships. On occasion I must bring my 2008 MKZ to a Ford dealership that took on Lincoln to replace Mercury ... I feel like I am going to a truck service center, lot loaded with dozens of trucks of various descriptions, service desk and waiting room suitable for folks with a truck or maybe a Ford . I plan to purchase a 2013 model, but unless things change at the dealership level it won't be a Lincoln ...
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    "Don't you love an orderly succession plan at Ford Motor Company," Mulally said in an interview Thursday, unequivocally adding that he has "no plans" to retire. "Ford has always attracted the best talent. That's probably the most stable team in the industry."

    A smart move for the board:

    "The company's directors, in a separate step signaling an important strategic priority, said Jon Huntsman, the former Republican presidential candidate, Utah governor and ambassador to China, would join the board. The appointment, effective immediately, is likely to bolster Ford's credibility inside China."

    Ford's leadership pushes deeper into era of stability (Detroit News)

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    "She credits her near-obsessive dedication to the car as the main reason why it's spent nearly half a century in her care.

    "When I buy gas, I write down the mileage, the date and how many miles per gallon I got," she told FoxNews.com in 2009. "I've never been a destructive person and I've just taken care of everything, except my husbands."

    Florida woman, 93, reaches end of the road after 576,000 miles in her 1964 Mercury (Fox)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    I tell ya what, if all of us were as kind, thoughtful, and fortunate, this would be a mighty fine place indeed. :shades:
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    edited April 2012
    "There are plenty of interesting technical details about the 2012 Ford Focus Electric, but there's one number that trumps them all. That would be its MPGe, otherwise known as the official mileage number given by the EPA for electric vehicles.

    On the Focus Electric, the combined rating is 105 MPGe, a number that makes this Focus the most efficient sedan on the road. And yes, that includes the all-electric Nissan Leaf."

    2012 Ford Focus Electric First Drive (Inside Line)

    "By the end of the year, one out of every three Ford vehicle models will achieve 40 mpg or better, said Kevin Leyden, Ford's director of electrified vehicles, at a press conference for the Ford Focus here on Monday. This "power of choice" will appeal to consumers as gas remains above $4 a gallon." (Detroit News)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    I was reading about the Focus Electric last week, and it's an interesting car.... but not $40K interesting! :surprise:
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    edited April 2012
    Mulally says that $12,000 to $15,000 of that is the battery pack.

    High Cost of Electric Car Batteries Spills (WSJ)

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  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    While I like the idea of an electric Focus, $40k is way to much. Either gas has to get more expensive or electric cars need to come down in price and yield better range.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Maybe but I'm sure at least $5000 of it is the "We know the government will give it to you so we want it" markup.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    I thought it was more like $7,500. :)

    Surely battery prices will fall like the price of computers. Except that they've been working on battery technology for 100 years now. :sick:

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    Yes, I'm positive that is the mentality. Much like the "cash for clunkers" mentality of dealers during that fiasco.

    For me, that credit would result in about $1,500 back. So, if I was looking at purchasing a Focus E, I wouldn't even sit down at the table until we were at $35K. But, since I'm completely outside the target demographic anyway, the point is moot.
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    edited April 2012
    I read in the comments to the WSJ version of this story that the batteries don't work below 14 degrees anyway. That would put you out of commission for weeks months. :D

    (I won't mention the 1/2" of snow that was on the ground here this morning, lol).

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    (I won't mention the 1/2" of snow that was on the ground here this morning, lol)

    Hah! The weather here is gorgeous! Sunny and getting near sixty the last few days. It barely froze last night. Pretty nice for mid-April in Fairbanks.... :shades:

    That said, I would be shocked if the batteries "didn't work" below that temperature. They likely lose capacity, but they will not fail to operate. What's more, ambient temperature means little if you keep it in a heated garage, and one could simply put a heating pad on the battery pack while it is plugged in during the day (assuming the vehicle is outside).

    I ran some numbers on it, though, and with electricity at twenty-two cents per kilowatt-hour, gasoline would need to be at ~$7/gal for it to become a cost-effective option. In other words, it should hit stride in another year or two. :sick:
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    "Fitch Ratings upgraded its rating for Ford from BB+, which denotes high-yield junk status, to BBB-, which is just over the threshold into investment-grade status. If Ford gets a similar boost from Standard & Poor's or Moody's, its credit rating will officially be considered restored to investment-grade -- and that would be a draw for investors interested in lower-risk bonds."

    Ford On Road Back to Investment-Grade Credit Rating (Straightline)

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    "With his disheveled shock of long gray hair and brightly painted wooden clogs, Karpen has had no trouble getting noticed.

    At the Ford meetings, whenever the floor opened up for general comment, the engineer from Long Island, New York, would dart to the podium, hold up a light bulb, and in a high nasal voice launch into the virtues of neodymium oxide technology, for which he holds several patents.

    There's always basically been these guys who think they have a great idea, but they can't bust through the bureaucracy of the car business"

    Ford's gearhead gadfly may skip the annual meeting (Reuters)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,679
    edited May 2012
    Let's see... he had the patents he needed in the 1990's, so if neodymium oxide technology is as effective as he claims, it should catch on in another five to ten years (in other words, just after patent protection expires). ;)

    I tell you what, I would LOVE to have windshields that filtered glare. I have a recurrent corneal erosion that makes night driving a real PITA due to the glare. I doubt this tech would solve that problem, but it would sure help.
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    edited May 2012
    Heh, I bet you're right. Have you noticed all the "French door" refrigerators that hit the market a few years ago? They didn't become trendy all of a sudden because they are stylish or useful, it was just that the patent had expired.

    Just wait a couple of decades - at my age, driving at night is something to be avoided period.

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  • podpod Posts: 176
    Glare haunts me as well. Never had the problem until I hit 60 y.o or so but it is quite annoying expecially with all the foglights and poorly aimed headlights that could fry an egg at 1000 feet. My solution which helps a good bit is to wear lightly tinted polaroid sunglasses when I drive at night. The polarizers dramatically reduce reflection intensity and the tint generally reduces intensity. Try it you will like it I expect. Also I have the autodimming rear view mirror and my side mirrors set correctly so that I see none of my car (or of near by cars behind me) in either mirror. These adjustments should help.
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