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Toyota Avalon 2008-2010

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  • 1lotlizard1lotlizard Posts: 14
    Thanks verey very much for your message. After three more hours at the dealer recently and Dad insisting they check the fluid level, it was found to be a quart low on transmission fluid. He says the car is doing much better now. I told him to have it monitored to make sure there isn't a leak. Again, your insight is much appreciated!
  • gohawaiiangohawaiian Posts: 78
    Has anyone experienced a jammed rear window shade (sunscreen) on the Avalon LImited, where it would not automatically retract after you push the button that operates it OR after you put the car in reverse? I have that problem now for the first time and wondered if anyone knows of a do-it-yourself fix. I may need to see a Toyota service dept. otherwise.
  • aus1aus1 Posts: 20
    Yesterday during routine maintenance, I had the dealer replace the cabin air filter and when I picked up the vehicle, the circulating fan is noisy at high speed so I will be returning to the dealer.

    Has anyone experienced this problem?

    Does anyone know how close the fan is to the air filter or where I can find this information?

    I'm trying to get my ducks in a row before I return to the dealer.

    Thanks!
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Hi. I can't answer your questions, but I can say, that I had mine (2008 Touring Edition) replace at 32,000 miles and the noise didn't change at all. Heck, the smell might have increase if anything.

    I've been wondering whether or not, the area in and around the filter needs to be bleached / cleaned at the same time, or at least now.

    Skip
  • aus1aus1 Posts: 20
    The dealer tried to convince me that the a/c duct system needed to be treated with "an expanding foam" to eliminate a slight odor problem due to possible mold. I asked if any mold was visible and they said they couldn't determine that because the vents were black. My BS meter began to rise with that reply and besides, all previous vehicles I've owned had a slight a/c odor and only one required repair due to improper coil draining.

    I didn't have it done and if there is an odor, I can't smell it.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Your BS meter may be just a tad too sensitive...

    The problem of "dirty gym socks odor" from the A/C system has become VERY commonplace. An ounce of prevention is often worth a pound of cure.
  • aus1aus1 Posts: 20
    I agree that my BS meter would be off but only if I had the "dirty gym socks odor".
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    What is the ounce of prevention? I assume that when you park the car the evaporator is damp and then the moisture sits in the system causing mold/mildew and hence the smell. The only thing that I could think to prevent that is to run the fan for a few minutes (with A/C switched off) after parking the car. This, IMO is a little inconvenient.... however, a shot or two of Lysol (through the air intake) while the system is running can certainly help from time to time if the odor gets too bad.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    The idea, the one I suspect the dealer was promoting, is to coat the evaporator vane surface area with an anti-microbial chemical, fungicide, as a pre-emptive measure. Don't give those little buggers even the smallest of toe-holds to start breeding.
  • aus1aus1 Posts: 20
    I agree.

    Anyway, they found the noise problem. Apparently, while they replaced the cabin filter, they left a portion of the old filter in the vents and this was vibrating.
  • carlupicarlupi Posts: 52
    I cannot find the tranny dipstick on my 2009 Avalon, or any reference to it in the manual. Any suggestions?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    There isn't one...

    The proper filling of the transaxle is now so critical that not even many of the dealer service persons are competent enough to do it.
  • gilseidmangilseidman Posts: 20
    In the future, change the cabin filter yourself. The Toyota manual tells you how to do it and it is a simple 5 minute job that you would do better than the dealer. You are more careful and would make certain that the entire filter is removed. A fillter replacement is about twelve bucks. A spray of Lysol might be a good idea if you smell any mold, otherwise, leave it alone.
  • carlupicarlupi Posts: 52
    You are right. I checked with my dealer who confirmed that some of the newer Toyotas do not have a tranny dipstick because they now use a tranny oil/fluid that is extremely sensitive to, and easily absorbs, humidity that damages the system. Therefore, the newer transmissions are more or less "sealed and the oil can be checked/replaced only by a trained technician.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    edited June 2010
    Personally I don't think moisture absortion has anything to do with it. Simply a way to put a stop to dealer revenues from needless drain and flush procedures.

    Secondary issue is the design to minimize the amount of fluid required, factory cost plus weight. The design is now such the even the slightest overfill will result in frothing/foaming of the ATF and subsequence failures.
  • gilseidmangilseidman Posts: 20
    I just changed my air filter on my 2008 Avalon Ltd after reaching 30,000 miles. The manual recommends the change and the filter was dirty and needed to be changed. I bought the air filter at Auto Barn for about $12.00. I have been changing air filters on different Toyota models for many years, but never had such a difficult time, due to a poorly designed and shaped triangular air filter container with three hold down clips and two opposite plastic hinges. Most air filters will fit in the bottom of the filter container, but for this model, the filter fits in the top of the container, so remember how the filter came out once you take it apart. If you are not handy, let your mechanic do it.
    If you want to do it, remove the three rubber suction hoses first, as well as the electrical switch on the top of the filter box. Remember where the hoses go, or label them. Use a phillips screwdriver and loosen the hold down clamp on the large rubber hose attached to the air filter holder box. Separate the large air hose from the air filter box. Open the three hold down clips on the air filter box and use masking tape to hold them attached to the box, to keep the clips out of your way. You should then be able to remove the old filter from the top of the air filter container and replace it. Reverse the procedure to put it back together.
  • davepiszykdavepiszyk Posts: 16
    I have a 2007 LTD Avalon. The electric sunscreen just stopped this week. I can hear a click when I push the button but it doesn't operate and now stuck in the up position.
    Has any one else experienced this? gohawaiian did you get your problem fixed? What did you do, what was the cost?
    Thanks
  • gohawaiiangohawaiian Posts: 78
    I fixed it on my own - not sure if it was just a lucky fluke - but you can try this: the shade uses both a motor and some kind of spring-loaded mechanism for those metal bars that raise and lower the shade. Try squeezing on the metal bar at each edge of the shade - in my case, one of them could be pushed (a few inches) inward (toward the center of the window shade) and then, when I let go, it returned to its vertical position on the edge of the sunshade. I did this once or twice and then - lo and behold - the shade retracted the next time I pushed the control button. It hasn't malfunctioned since. Good luck!
  • erhafterhaft Posts: 3
    While driving to work ths morning, I turned on the High Beams. After about 2 minutes, both quit working. The switch and panel indicate they should be on. Have not had a chance to check the fuses (one for left & right) while at work. Seems highly unusual both would drop out at the same time. Just had both low beam D4R HID lamps replaced. Hints? Solution?
  • Did you check to see if the fog/driving lights were accidently bumped and turned on? High beams go off then the driving lights are on. Just a thought if it isn't a fuse.
  • erhafterhaft Posts: 3
    I will check the doublecheck the fog/riving light activation. Aren't they supposed to automatically turn off anyway when you activate the high beam via the stalk? I was driving with the high beams when they both went out.
  • if you have the high beams on and turn on the driving/fog lights the high beams turn off.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    I suspect you have that just a bit backwards.

    If you turn on the high beam the fog lights will go off.

    Most asian origin cars only allow the fog lights to be operated when the low beams are on. European origin allows fog lights to be operated alone, the only way they can be of any real use/value.

    While US origin was once the same as europe the asian OEM suppliers (Denso US, etc,) operating as vendors to US manufacturers have had an adverse influence on that.
  • Hi,
    Both my high beam bulbs "blew up" last week. Dealer confirmed there is a Service Bulletin (TSB-0044-10). Cost to replace both assemblies was $2,400. Toyota agreed to pick up 2/3 of the cost. I paid the $800 but am beginning my research to this obvious design defect. Seems like with a service bulletin and enough similar situations that we have a very strong case.
    Total Toyota aggravation, but I'm fairly confident that I'll win the battle.

    TSB-0044-10 Summary:
    TOYOTA: HIGH BEAM/DRL BULB INOPERATIVE. ON SOME VEHICLES, THE HIGH BEAM/DRL BULB MAY BECOME INOPERTIVE OR SHATTER. A NEWLY DESIGNED HIGH BEAM/DRL HOUSING ASSEMBLY (INCLUDING THE APPLICABLE BULB) IS AVAILABLE IN THE EVENT THIS CONDITION H ( NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10033406 )
  • kbetts1kbetts1 Posts: 36
    I just don't know what to say to the high beam "blow up" scenario. The high beams are standard bulbs, not HID. Headlights are a simple circuit compared to something running on the CAN bus and much more than the lights would be dead. There is no failure I can imagine that would cost $2400 unless it required removing the dash and rewiring the car. Even then, it's much simpler to hack the wiring and run an alternate circuit to the high beams that could be designed and installed by any half way competent car electronics guy for $200 at most.

    These are simple light bulbs and switches with a couple of relays.... $2400 is absurd.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    edited October 2010
    $2,400,...Wow, did that dealer see you coming.

    That might be a good number (although too high for even that IMMHO) for replacing both HID headlight assmblies, but halogen...??

    NEVER...!

    It has long been known that operation, long term operation, of halogen bulbs for DRLs using sub-standard voltages, 5-6 volts vs 12, results in sooting of the interior of the bulb's glass encapsulation, heat trapping soot, and subsequent melting of the glass encapsulation.

    But "blew up", I think not.

    The only damage I have personally seen from this was limited to the high beam bulb itself and I simply replaced the bulbs, disabled the factory DRL circuit and substituted a pair of 3W LEDs.

    I suggest you ask the dealer for a FULL refund, and/or notify Toyota Corporate, or take the dealer to small claims court if no one offers any satisfaction.
  • mlinggamlingga Posts: 58
    Has anyone else experienced repeated problems with the TPMS? This is the third time the low pressure warning light has come on despite good pressures in all tires. The system was fixed, in some unknown way, once under warranty. The second time, it was out of warranty and I paid around $200 for a new sensor. Knowing my dealer, that was a ripoff. Now we're at it for the third time.

    The reason I'm particularly concerned is that our other car, an '07 Lexus GS350, appears to have the same TPMS as the Avvy, and it also has a false warning light on. I've tried to reset that TPMS following the manual's instructions, but I do not get the message confirming that it was reset. Is there any known issue with the Toyota TPMS (other than how lousy it is compared to my Suburban's system, which reads out the exact pressure in each tire on a real time basis, and has never failed in 90.000 miles of driving).?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "..all tires.." Including the spare..?
  • My left headlight (HID) went out at 31,000 miles on Avalon Limited. Dealer replaced it for free.
  • There is a service bulletin (documented in many places) - the whole assembly is defective, so their diagnosis was correct, but my having to pay for any of it isn't right. I already began my calls, emails etc. and the dealer is now working with Toyota of America. We shall see.
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