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Mazda 3 Tire & Wheel Questions

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Is it the suspension or is it the tires? I ask because due to the sheer number of complaints regarding the OEM skins, I had a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires installed on my 2009 Mazda3 after only 714 miles. So far at least they still look virtually new after 23,000 miles. Go figure.
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    We have not yet had to replace the tires on our 2007 model with 39,000 miles, but we have been running separate winter tires each year for roughly 3 1/2 months. I do plan to replace the original OEM tires this spring. I figure they have about 25,000 miles on them and are getting very near the end. For replacements I will look for tires that have excellent tread life, including the Pilots that Shipo's had good experience with.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,469
    Mazda 3 2.3, 25K miles. Just burned throught the second set of rear tires in 25K!!!!!

    I'm no longer a fan of Mazda, but in all fairness I have to say that tire wear has NOT been a problem with my Mazdaspeed 3; The OEM Bridgestones and the replacement Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S tires each lasted over 25,000 miles.

    Wish an energetic lawyer would find this issue!

    Ah yes, the jackpot theory of justice...

    My solution is to trade this tire eating monster off this weekend. A great, fun car to drive....but new tires every 12-15k miles isn't on my list.

    Let me get this straight; buying a new car and taking a several thousand dollar hit on depreciation is less expensive than buying new tires and finding out what is causing the excessive wear? If you say so...

    Warn your friends!

    Now that IS funny...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    My solution is to trade this tire eating monster off this weekend. A great, fun car to drive....but new tires every 12-15k miles isn't on my list.
    Let me get this straight; buying a new car and taking a several thousand dollar hit on depreciation is less expensive than buying new tires ...

    I must agree the better solution may be a new set of tires; who knows you may love that "monster" again. :)
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 791
    My '06 s 5-door chewed thru the factory Goodyear Eagles in barely 28k miles...but the Dunlop SP Sports that replaced them have 47k and counting on them and lots of tread life remaining!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,469
    I must agree the better solution may be a new set of tires; who knows you may love that "monster" again.

    I strongly suspect that the OP simply wants a new car and the tire wear issue has become the justification for buying it.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    I strongly suspect that the OP simply wants a new car and the tire wear issue has become the justification for buying it.

    You read my mind!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,469
    You read my mind!

    Great minds think alike!

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • eoghan1eoghan1 Posts: 57
    At about 40K I replaced the original RSA's on my 2004 3s with Michelin Pilot Sports that I bought used. Two had full tread and two were half worn. I found the Pilots good but just as noisy as the RSA's. I plan to replace the two more worn ones with Hankook Ventus's or Optimos, putting them on the back. Can I expect them to be quieter? Anyone feel mixing the brands is a problem?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    What are the size and ratings (e.g. V-rated) of your Pilots and the Hankooks? Differences here may mean different handling and other driving characteristics. Sticking to the same type of tire makes the drive more consistent (that is, use sporty tires for a sporty ride).

    Are either the Pilots or Hankooks unidirectional (that is you cannot rotate them in a cross pattern only in a front to back and vice versa)?

    I plan to replace the two more worn ones with Hankook Ventus's or Optimos, putting them on the back.
    Once you do a tire rotation, they will be on the front. :)
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,469
    I've been running Pirelli PZero Nero M+S(ultra-high performance all-season) tires on my 2007 MS3(which is putting out @288 bhp since I installed the Mazdaspeed Cold Air Intake). I'm far from a sedate driver yet PZeroes didn't hit the wear bars until I had 28,500 miles on them. Note that I did rotate them every 5,000 miles. Needless to say I replaced them with the same tire(now called the PZero Nero All Season) and-with 54,000 miles on the car-I splurged and also had the car aligned for the first time since I bought it new in July 2007.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Posts: 890
    I just ordered a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS's from TireRack. Excellent user reviews and very high UTQG rating (540 A A)...have to be a LOT better than the Goodyear RSA's...

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiresB.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeC- ontact+DWS&partnum=05WR7ECDWSXL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Maz- da&autoYear=2007&autoModel=MAZDA3%20s%204-Door&autoModClar=
  • donaldudonaldu Posts: 2
    The stock RSA tires on my Mazda 3 are also wearing on the inside edge of the tire after 21k miles. I have read many web site remarks. But my question is - How dangerous is it to drive the car with tires worn on the inside edge?? The rest of the tire looks good with plenty of tread. Looking at cutaway pictures of tires here:

    http://www.goodyear.com/truck/pdf/radialretserv/Retread_S10_V.pdf

    From the pics, it appears the inside edge of a tire has about 50% more rubber thickness than the center of the tire. I mostly just drive 40mph to work, lunch, and dinner with very little freeway driving. Traction is less probably but stopping at 40 mph should not be a problem.
  • capriracercapriracer Somewhere in the USPosts: 795
    edited April 2010
    First, the image you are looking at is for a truck tire, and they are quite different than the passenger car tires on your Mazda. Passenger car tires have pretty close to the same amount of rubber across the entire tread face. So if the tire is smooth on one edge, it will not be long before the tire is worn into the steel plies - and once that happens, the next stage is a tread separation, which at best will leave to stranded, and at worse could cause your vehicle to go out of control.

    Second, the source of the problem is the vehicle's alignment. So you need to get that addressed or the problem will continue.

    Third, even if you get the alignment fixed, you can't add rubber back onto the tire, so you are looking at replacing the tires - and pretty soon.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    How dangerous is it to drive the car with tires worn on the inside edge?? The rest of the tire looks good with plenty of tread

    The next time you bring your car in for service have the mechanic look at the tires. Generally speaking, tires are measured in several spots to determine an average depth. If the tires are still good, but wearning unevenly they will recommend an alignment. If the tire wear has exceeded the maximum allowable and the tire is 4/32" or less, you will be encouraged to replace your tires. Not to put a fine point on it: until you replace them, you are putting yourself and others at risk when you drive.

    p.s. Remember to rotate your tires!
  • donaldudonaldu Posts: 2
    As the earlier posts have said, the alignment is fine and within Maxda specs. The Mazda 3 just wears tires evenly on the inside edge. The depth of all tread grooves is over a 1/4 inch still. There are not really any grooves to measure on the corner edge of the tire, so how do you know exactly when to replace the tire with this type of wear? It is my guess that the tire will perform just fine for many more miles, but I will probably replace them at 25k. Of courrse I'm sure any tire dealer will tell me they need replacing right now.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    The depth of all tread grooves is over a 1/4 inch still
    1/4 inch works out to 8/32 which is definitely good. Brand new summer tires are typically 10/32 so yours indicate minimal wear. I would keep monitoring and rotating the tires and you should be fine.

    any tire dealer will tell me they need replacing right now
    The way I see it is a good mechanic advises the client, it's up to the client if they follow the advice. My mechanic has been straight with me with his advice and I appreciate his "early warning" of upcoming issues so that I can plan my next step.

    All the best!
  • BMW540BMW540 Posts: 33
    My son has 26k on a 2010 hatchback .At 18k 2 tires, Yokohama Avids were replaced due to side bubbles. They were replaced with Yokohama S Drives. They have yet to be rotated as my son does not keep an eye on these things. Took the car to the tire store and they said that the rears are in worse condition than the fronts, ie the mileage so not to rotate them, but not worn out. I do not recall but by not rotating doesn't one end start to cup? What is the solution here? Thanks
    BMW 540
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,871
    If you don't rotate tires, ANY car will eat them up. There's no such thing as a perfect alignment, so you really do need to rotate them to spread out any wear. If the tires are that bad that the tire shop is saying to not rotate them, you may simply want to get new tires and keep up with the rotations. The tire shop I use rotates tires for free if you purchased them there. Hopefully yours does the same

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  • I bought 4-used 205/50r17 Michelin Pilot A/S Sport’s to replace the RSA’s. Two are due for replacement. New Pilots are pricey. If I replace two with Hankook Ventus V12 Evos at about half the price of the Pilots will I foul up the handling etc.? I would put the Pilots on the front and wear them out, with the Evos on the rear.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I replaced the 205/50 R17 OEM Eagle RSAs on my Mazda3 after only 714 miles and had Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires mounted in their place. While there are cheaper tires out there, I suggest that you're going to be hard pressed to fine a different tire that lasts as long as the Michelins do on a Mazda3. Why do I say that? Because I have over 32,000 miles on my Pilot Sport A/Ss and based upon the tread wear, I can project that these tires will last an easy fifty to fifty-five thousand miles before I'll need to replace them.

    FWIW, the current buzz is that the new Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires are both less expensive than the Michelins (a set of four can be had from TireRack for less than $500), and offer similar performance; I may take a look at them in a year or two when I need some new skins.

    As for mixing different tires on your car, I did that one time, and never again. While many tires offer similar handling characteristicts and as such are probably acceptable for mixing (i.e a different set on the front versus the rear), in my case the car got so dodgey to handle that it was unsafe even when rolling in a straight line. My advice; don't do it, the life you save may be your own.
  • Hi,
    I know little about cars, tires, etc, so am asking here. Thank you in advance for your assistance. I had a really scary incident recently where I hydroplaned severely in medium to heavy rain on the freeway. I wasn't speeding, either. I have 61,000 miles on my original tires. My car is a 2004 Mazda 3i, four door sedan, with a 2.0L I4 engine. I've heard Michelin Hydroedge are good tires for wet conditions. What size should I buy?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    You should buy the same exact size of tire that is already on your car. Hint: you can look at the sidewall and you'll probably see something that looks like 195/65 R15 or 205/55 R16. The thing is, your car came from the factory with two different sizes so you'll have to go out to yoru car and look at the tires yourself.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    edited November 2010
    I had a really scary incident recently where I hydroplaned severely in medium to heavy rain on the freeway. ,,, I have 61,000 miles on my original tires. My car is a 2004 Mazda 3i, four door sedan, with a 2.0L I4 engine. I've heard Michelin Hydroedge are good tires for wet conditions

    As these are 6 year old tires with over 60K miles (100K kilometres) it's not surprising that you were hydroplaning; your tires may not have very much tread left on them. It's a wonder that your mechanic has not warned you about tires that are over 5 years old. On the other hand, you've done very well with these tires!

    The Michelins are an excellent tire. The issue with Michelins is price, so you may want to hunt around for a good deal.

    All the best!
  • Little old lady bought 2009 mazda3 hatchback sport. Little old lady wanted to go zoom zoom. Problem is my tires need replacing at 26k !
    I'm trying to find something that won't brake my Social Security payment---. When I go to the tire stores---being a female and a gray haired one, I'm not sure if they are taking me to the cleaners or not.
    I want an all wx--Minnesota wx- with GOOD HANDLING in snow/ice---what do you recommend. I drive mostly freeway--about 20k /yr.
    My tires on my previous Honda's would last for 50-60k. I would have bought another civi---but the seats were very uncomfortable.---not that I'm looking for a rocking chair mind you.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    It sounds like the Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires ($123.00 in the 205/50 R17 size from TireRack.com) is a perfect option for you.
  • How many miles should I be able to expect to get out of the continental extreme ?

    Is there a 50k-60k warrenty ususally with these ?

    How is the road noise on these tires ?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    edited November 2010
    How many miles? Naturally that depends upon driving environment and such. Currently I'm running a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, tires that have a lower Treadwear Indicator compared to the Continentals; with ~34,000 miles on the tires I'm pretty confident that I'll get 45,000 to 50,000 miles out of them. Assuming the treadwear indicators on the two tires are even remotely consistent, that would imply that the Continentals should be good for at least 50,000 miles.
  • just want to commiserate. I am also a little old lady with a mazda 3 hatchback. At 21K miles my tires are almost down to the wear bar. I'm ticked. My car will be 2 years old on 12/27. I think that is ridiculous! I'm going to try BJs first. If you have one or a costco, they do a pretty good job. I used to have a BMW 325xi, my ex was a gear head and he had no problem with their tires. Good luck to you!
  • I'm so annoyed about the tire wear issue... When my 2006 Mazda3 needed tires at 20k, I said huh? My old Civic used to get 80k out of a set... Local tire shop said those factory tires weren't up to the "sporty" Mazda3... so I got Yokohama's, and again, they were worn at about 20k... what the heck? the DEALER said "oh, they've worn on the inside, needs alignment..." so I got another set, Goodyear's, higher rating, alignment, more money... and NOW THE THIRD SET IS WORN ON THE INSIDE...

    I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the angle of the rear tires "for more sporty handling", and this angle (the "camber") can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.

    It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.

    On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.

    I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.

    This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.

    At this point, I think I should have gone with a CIVIC, or a Toyota Matrix. Would I be about even in price, by now, I wonder...
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