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Translation: Getting your lazy butt off the couch and doing something productive. Whatta sacrifice....
so don't cry about the time spent.
Oh gimme a break. Do you know the difference between an explanation and complaining? A question was asked about what we do and how much time is put into it, and I answered. It's called an explanation.
From now on, the only practical way to monitor how fast a car is moving is to keep a tab on VIN numbers in the Mazda website. Not sure why they publish those though.
That's very tough to do. Heck, I have no idea how long I've had some of my cars on my lot!
I do feel for those who are struggling to make a living. I don't like to see anyone suffer. I'm just glad I'm not in the mortgage or real estate business. However, the auto industry is that much better right now then the housing market!
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What helps is Mazda cut back production of CX-9's, and dealers have trimmed inventory. There is not the extreme need to move these 08's anymore.
I concur! I've seen the same thing happening with the 08 CX-7's as well. We bought our 08 base CX-7 a month ago for $7K off ($17K + ttl)
Unless you must have a car today, time is on your side.
The car market is really slow right now and will be for months to come!
Invoice price is $30,750.
Dealer Incentive is $6,500
Factory Holdback $668
Subtotal $23,582
Profit to Dealer $1,000 (throw them a bone)
Destination Charge $635
Total before TTL $25,217
Would this be a good price or do you think I would be able to go lower?
Would this be a good price or do you think I would be able to go lower?
These two sentences contradict each other. Either throw them the bone or go for the deal. Which do you want to do. You don't mention the exact configuration you're considering.
Anyway, you are prepared to offer $25,217 for a FWD CX-9 with Bose/moonroof. Three weeks ago I paid $25,950 for a Touring AWD with Bose/moonroof. You might be able to push a similar deal which would make your price about $24,750.
John
Please ignore that comment. I was looking at the wrong #'s when running the calculator and did determine that you are looking at a Touring FWD with Moonroom/Bose only.
Um.....that's not right. The incentive is $4,250. Where did you come up with $6,500???
Sorry late Friday afternoon post when I was falling asleep. A Touring FWD. Lower with any other offers or incentives you might know about not dealer profit.
Not sure what the 24,750 price is you mention. Did the 25,950 include destination charge?
Yes. The $25,950 I paid was out the door for me. Keep in mind that here in Nebraska we do not pay TTL at the dealer so that is additional. But, the $25,950 included everything else: vehicle price, destination charge, and all dealer documentation fees. I basically told my dealer that I wouldn't pay doc fees because they "weren't doing anything" (I did not finance through them).
I did not specifically ask what the customer rebate was when I purchased. However, I knew from these forums that the price I was paying ($9,360 under sticker) was a pretty good deal.
A different dealer had an ad in today's paper for $10,000 off a loaded GT (sticker $41,992.00).
John
$24,750 is my bad math
It sounds like you are looking at a Touring FWD with just Bose/moonroof as options, which stickers at $34,010. I paid $9,360 under sticker, so I subtracted that same amount from your sticker (including destination):
$34,010 - 9,360 = $24,650 (told you my math was bad).
Personally, I'd start at $24,010 ($10k under sticker including destination). I'd go up to $24,500 ($9,500 under) and then walk away for a day and see what they do.
Also, it may benefit you to open the driver's door on the car your considering and look at the sticker in the door jamb that indicates the build date. It could be to your advantage if it's an old car and they want to get rid of it. My dealer had more than 40 on the lot and some had build dates of August, 2007.
John
We bought a black cherry AWD CX-9 Grand Touring with GT assist and DVD entertainment system packages. The MSRP was $40,760. We got it for 30,800. That's before taxes and registration, etc. I did not have to haggle for that price. I waited out the dealers internet sales dept. for a few weeks, and they offered this just as I was getting ready to go in and start negotiating in earnest with a few dealers I had contacted via email.
I had to haggle a little to get the trade-in price on my 2004 Sienna increased, and also a little to get 4.99% on the 60 month loan, but it was all very pleasant.
Yes, there are deals to be made on these 2008's, they need to move them out before the end of the year. Going through the internet sales is your best bet for value.
Awesome forum! Thanks for the help guys!!
I'm also unclear why the Mazda financing (0%) wouldn't be available if the price paid doesn't involve a factory to customer "cash back" amount.
Thanks.
"If you take the 0% we do not get our dealer incentive, if you don't take the 0% we get our incentive, the incentive is put there to help the dealerships sell cars the same way that the 0% does, but in my honest opinion you are better off taking the savings up front than going with the 0% because the 0% only benefits you if have the loan for the full term, if you trade the car in or happen to get in an accident before the car is paid off you do not fully benefit from the interest savings, but when you take the savings upfront you get all of the savings no matter what happens"
BTW I am looking at a 2008 CX9 Sport AWD with power drivers seat... currently best price has been 23890
Or for a 2008 CX9 Sport FWD with power drivers Seat for 22400
This is in the bay area. Has anyone recently seen any better deals?
Thanks
SH
It is not a rebate, but rather cash paid to the dealer taken off the top of the selling price and is not subject to sales tax. A "rebate" is a taxable discount.
The incentive is $4,250 or 0% financing for up to 60 months. Your choice. You cannot combine both.
Thanks
Rob
Which dealer did you purchase your CX-9 from in Phila area?
Kevin
I'm also wondering if anyone thinks that the $4,250 incentive is likely to be increased in Dec.
Thanks for your thoughts
Word I have received is that Mazda will no longer lease the 08 come December. I highly doubt the $4,250 will be increased since national inventory is getting thin,
I did not purchase in Philly. I am in Omaha.
John
This board has been helpful to me so I wanted to give back. These are JUST my opinions.
Styling:
MDX wins from the front and CX9 wins from the side and rear.
Interior:
MDX's leather is much more supple and overall materials are of a higher grade. Even though the MDX measure's wider, the CX9 feels more spacious overall. The sliding second row in the CX9 allows for much easier access to the third row. The CX9's center console is much more useful including the cupholder's position being more natural. The MDX has a LATCH for the center position of the center row.
Controls:
The MDX's controls are very cluttered and difficult to get used to. You must always take your eyes off the road in order to operate including some of the steering wheel controls. The CX9's dash and steering wheel controls are much more intuitive. The rear climate control seems to work better in the CX9. The MDX's aire points right at my daughter's car seat and gives her a chill.
Navigation:
The CX9's navigation has all fo the goodies, however I prefered the touch screen and cx9's simplicity. The MDX seemed "too" integrated. I do like that on the MDX you can use all of its functions while moving and not being locked out by the navigation. The MDX's backup camera seems to have a slightly clearer picture.
Ride/Handling:
The MDX feels much more sure footed overall. It feels similar to a BMW. There are times when certain bumps seem harsh, but overall it is a great compromise. The steering feel is also excellent. The CX9's 20" wheels tend to produce a more bouncy ride overall, but never harsh. The CX9's steering is somewhat light and very light at times, almost to the point where an uneven surface in the road moves the steering wheel if you are holding with one hand at the 12o'clock position. The MDX's handling is impresseive.
Engine:
The MDX feels a bit quicker under foot to the floor acceleration, but during daily driving the extra gear seems to make the CX9 just feel right. There were times with the MDX where it felt like it needed to downshift and then hunted for a gear. Both engines seemed equally quiet.
Drive:
The MDX might have slightly less wind noise, but hard to tell. I like the higher seating position of the CX9. The blind spot monitor works well in cx9. Them MDX feels a bit hard to see out of when looking rearward.
Value:
If you do the calculation including an $8k discount on MDX and $10k discount on CX9 and then take into account resale value and the difference in premium gas cost, the MDX cost about $1500 more over 3 years of ownership.
So what am I buying? I am buying a CX9. I can't totally explain it, but I just like the simplicity of the controls, the styling, visibility, and for some reason I just feel more relaxed when driving it.
Hope this helps someone.
read all of the posts on this thread making clear that you can not get: (1) ~$7500(base)-~$10000(GT) off MSRP and, (2) 0% financing.
you are living in a dream world if you think you can get both.
that is why the dealer that offered you 0% was only giving $5000 off MSRP.
$7500-$10000 off MSRP, OR $2500-$5000 off MSRP AND 0% financing are very, very good deals.
if you hold out for much more than that, you likely won't have any luck -- unless you get ripped on a trade, get a demo, pick up a fluke customized car where the deal fell through (e.g. aftermarket DVD player, leather), etc.
PS be sure to look at the details on the lease on a 2009 -- even though you say you are getting $5K + $1.25K off MSRP, you may be getting whacked with a not-so-great money-factor(i.e. interest), amount down, and/or limited mileage. just make sure you'r comparing apples to apples. especially if you are holding onto the car for any length of time, i find it hard to believe that a 2009 would be a better deal, and there virtually no differences btwn 2008 and 2009.
best of luck.
My dealer has I think if i remember correctly (test drove a lot of cars) $5K off the 2009's. Mazda has a current lease deal with no security deposit and 1250 cash incentive thru chase bank for 2009 leases. Again, not sure I can get both and I don't know what the money factor will be for a 15K mile lease. I realize a lease and loan are not apples to apples.
I will let everyone know.
If he was to buy the 09, there is only a $1,000 dealer engagement (sort of a rebate), not $4,250 like the 08's.
As for leasing, Chase sets the money factor. Unlike when Mazda was doing the lease, the dealer cannot mark up the money factor. The money factor is actually really good on the 09's. 24 month lease is 0.00100 and 36 months is 0.00093
Thanks
Thanks
48% for Grand Touring
It looks like the residuals for 2009 are lower than what they were a year ago during this same time for the 2008's. I realize that they changed from mazda to chase, but it looks like the residuals went from 52% to 48% for the GT awd. I realize that this year residuals on SUV's have gone down because of the MPH's of most suv's and people weren't buying then used.
Thanks.
Thanks,
I agree, $10K off should be the goal!
Got 8K off of the MSRP (30,400) so got it for 22,400. They did try and low ball me on my trade in, but just worked them hard and got what I wanted.
Note: Car was mfg 05/2008 so it was on the lot for 6 months....
Pretty happy with the deal, as most of the advertised 8-9500 off were for the GT near 40K units.
They tried to back out of the deal claiming that they couldn't offer 8K off of the sports, but I had their Advertisment, and they "honored" it.
Weird thing is that in the Consumer Guide, the MSRP is 700.00 less for the same model with the same option (pwr drivers seat). However both the dealer sticker and the mazda website state 30,400. Also, the window sticker at the dealer had a 1500 markup on it which brought the asking price to almost 32K......
The crew at the dealers were good guys, and the experience was good.
At last check they had several sport AWD and at least one more sport fwd (grey).
BTW if anyone is interested I bought the vehicle at Fremont Mazda. (Bay Area) CA
SH
We are still seeing deals well above the $4,250 incentive. (8-11K off MSRP) This is $2-5K better than the current incentive).
One would think that Mazda is offering direct $ to dealers to support these deals.
Your thoughts?
we're looking at a deal for a 08 FWD GT with rear view camera for approx. $29,500 (out the door) This includes the owner loyalty. However, I think I need to sell my car first as I don't think they'll meet my trade in price (i still owe too much).
I hate to miss out on the $1000 discount b/c of the trade in and may pull the trigger if it expires this month. If not, then it buys me a few weeks to try and sell on my own.
Mazda does payout volume bonuses for obtained sales objectives, so there is money there, but, only if sales objectives are met.
The only garenteed incentive money is the $4,250 incentive and hold back (no holdback paid if car is swapped from another dealer).
The $7,000-$10,000 discounts people are claiming are seen mostly on the GT's, if I'm not mistaken. GT's have about $3,000 or so mark up. Add that to the $4,250 and that's $7,250 right there. It's all up to the dealer how much they want to give past that. Holdback in only a few hundred dollars.
As I dealer, I have no idea how dealers are surviving by selling them at $10,000 discounts. I know I can't do it.
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