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Saturn Ion Starting Problems

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  • Thanks for the explaination. What is the relearn proceedure with the new switch installed? I need the proceedure before i replace the switch in her car.
  • Whats your email address i will send it to you.
  • Chrisb212@hotmail.com

    Thanks saturntech9, my mother in law will be very appreciative. Take care, chris
  • Hi there,
    I am having the no start problem with my wife's 2005 Saturn Ion. In my case the engine and battery lights stay on. We also have been dealing with a defective key for a while now, it takes some jiggling to turn, I am not sure if it is related but I would like to try replacing the ignition switch initially. Would you be kind enough to forward me the email you got from the other user on your post? I would greatly appreciate it.
  • hi im an owner of a saturn ion 2004 manual transmission , before i switched the ignition switch the dash would light up with the little car and the lock and the motor would turn just a bit but wouldnt start now after i switched ignition sensor i did the 30 minute process and nothing note that when i switched the ignition switch the antitheft light went off and now the motor doesnt even turn and the antitheft light doesnt show up , idk what i can do im lost and not ganna go to gm becuase they apparently dont know whats going ! please right back or email me to sixaxis27t99@aol.com
  • sorry saturntech9 has not replied to me with the relearn proceedure.
  • my email is chrisb212@hotmail.com
    i am needing the relearn proccedure before replacing the ign switch..
    thanks saturntech9!!
  • Hey there,
    I just picked up the procedure on YouTube and it works great. Search for Saturn 2004 Ignition Switch replacement. I found out my problem is with the key lock cylinder and I am trying to remove it, any experience with this?
  • Sorry i havent been on here in a while give me your email again and i will email you the directions on how to change the cylinder.
  • I could use the cylinder replacement proceedure as well as the relearn proceedure as well if you have time. Thanks, chris

    Chrisb212@hotmail.com
  • igotaanswerigotaanswer Posts: 1
    edited November 2012
    Ok let me first state that im am not a mechanic or any person that is experienced with engines. Alright so ive was given a 2004 saturn ion by my family back in 06. Yet did i know i was given a car that would be soon considered possessed as my wife states. So since 2006 this car has given me this famous crank problem. It drove me nuts. It wasnt until feb.2012 that it would never give me a problem again. Though the windshield mounting system broke and fuel pump which is all famous for the cars. any ways this is how you fix it the free way. so i joined the coast guard in 2010 where i made good friends with a machinery tech 1st class. This guy saved me from this horrible car. I told him it dosen't crank unless it feels like it because it has a mine of its own. of course he thought i was crazy. so he first looked at my ignition switch and said you need a new one. but he said ill show you something. so he took of my ignition switch and theres another switch that mounts to the back of your ignition switch. you can use this switch to crank your car. its about a 3in circle that has a small rectangle in the middle of it. all you have to do is put something in that rectangle and turn it just like you would do when you crank your car with a key in the ignition switch. only draw back is that if your car isnt locked than someone can steal it. but i put my ignition swtch back together and hid the switch below my steering wheel.but since this was done it has not given me a cranking problem. ill post a picture later. but thhis is the free way. hope this helps
  • eg123eg123 Posts: 1
    Hello all,

    I have been plagued by an issue of my key being ‘stuck’ in the ignition of my 2005 Saturn Ion 99% of the time when I would shut my car off for the past 18 or so months. The engine would shut off, but the power to the car would still be on. I would sit and wait a few minutes, hear the steering column ‘click’, and my key eventually would let go. However, on a few occasions, the key would stay ‘stuck’ for hours. I actually had to cut the end of my key at the part where it connects to key ring so I could leave the ignition key in the car so I didn’t have to wait for the key to let go.

    I finally decided to see if I could take the steering column off and take a look around. But when I was going to do that, I noticed a small, 1 inch x 1 inch fuse access panel looking thing underneath the steering column. I thought it was odd to have any fuses there, so I popped it off and felt up inside the steering column. And low and behold, there’s a button! If my key is ever stuck (and it happens 99% of the time I turn my car off), I press and hold that button and my key comes right out. It’s a bit awkward to do, but it sure beats sitting in my car waiting for it to let go on its own.
  • Most common reason for the key not turning off past the acc position on those cars is a bad micro switch on the base of the inside shifter failing.I have replaced tons of them for causing that.
  • Wow! So you have replaced tons of them ...
    If that is such a common cause, how come gm has NOT issued a recall ...
    And, by the way, it goes back to when Saturn was still alive!
    Apparently they (gm) could care less and that is why so many gm and saturn owners replace their vehicles with NON - GM products.
  • mr_g1mr_g1 Posts: 2
    I have an 03 Saturn Ion 2. The car has 265K miles, and has been relatively problem free. I had the ignition switch starting problem about 4 years ago and once I replaced the ignition switch, the problem was resolved.
    The car is exhibiting a starting problem, but I suspect it is a battery or other electrical problem, not the starting problem described by so many. If I don't start the car every day and drive it, the car will not start. In every case, jumping the battery gets the car started and the charge seems to last for 24 hours. I am able to restart it during the next 24 hours. During Hurricane Sandy, lots of water entered through the sunroof and could have splashed on the power window switches on the driver's door. I noticed the rear power window didn't work for a while. Once everthing dried out, it seemed to work okay.
    The battery is the original, so my first thought is a replacement is due. It simply seems that the battery is not able to hold its charge.
    However, it could be a short or other electrical problem. Before replacing the battery, I wanted to find out if anyone had an alternative ideas.
  • Ok here is my solution... Bypass the BCM with alternate aftermarket switch thus creating an emergency bypass switch on the damn dashboard. My problem is intermittent NCNS with all other electrics functioning. So there should be no reason why this method should fail. Bonus also that there is no need to replace anything. I haven't much to loose by trying and it sure beats spending $800 + dollars on a guess. :shades:
  • What are you guessing for 800?The most likely cause is the ignition switch which is like 20 on amazon also there really easy to install compared to your bypass switch?
  • If its the oringal battery its 9yrs old and amazing to have lasted that long i would have it tested i dont see how it could be any good at this point.Lets start there eliminate the battery being bad if thats not it next you have to do a parstic draw test next.
  • mr_g1mr_g1 Posts: 2
    Replaced battery 3 days ago and all seems to work perfectly for now.
  • Good to hear.
  • Up to now, have loved this car. But recently wouldn't start after running fine. Told battery was in great shape, told was not the ignition or starter. The mechanic said the starter box (??) was bad and replaced it for $560........ and guess what, two days later, same problem. This time he said the bad starter box may have blown out my battery, replaced battery ($150), Two days later the same problem, now they are closed for the holiday. The car starts eventually....... initially is as dead as it can be.........after 5 minutes, gives a little click click (I am a woman, might be a different description from a man).... then ten minutes later, an argh argh argh........ leave it alone and then 10 minutes later it starts. Now I have spent $710 without the problem being resolved. I am curious about a 'starter box' because I did a search on here to no avail.
    Anybody out there who might give me some insight on this.
  • When it won't start is the security light on solid or flashing?If so you most likely have a bad ignition switch.That's the number 1 fix for no starts on that car.I would get a refund for all those expensive guesses with your money.If you have a code B2960 or B3033 in the Bcm then you need to replace the ignition switch.
  • Yes, it is a ignition switch. I just had mine done in Oct. and haven't had a rpoblem at all with starting. Hopefully, it will last.

    The codes came up as the one stated above when I spoek with the mechanic.
  • I have 2005 Ion & had same intermittent problem starting issues. Luckily I found this sight a year ago & changed the ignition switch in my driveway, got the part from auto zone, & DIY from alldata.com told me how. Saved a bundle & no starting problems since! Good luck!
  • Yeah I have worked for Saturn for over 16yrs and a factory trained Saturn tech so my advice comes from that. I would make them given me a refund for all the work they have done for the no start or take them to small claims court sunneegal.
  • when I drive my 2005 Ion 2 for a few blocks I hear a click and it shuts off by itself. Also, having troubles starting and keeping it running. Had a new ignition switch put it and now it is worse. The tech had trouble reprogramming the car after the new ignition switch was put in. It gave out the first time I drove it after the switch put in. Now I can only drive it a few blocks before the click comes and ouut it goes. Please HELP!!!
  • froggy666froggy666 Posts: 2
    edited December 2012
    If anyone can help it would be great , i am a female and cars are not my thing. I have a 2005 Saturn Ion 2 , here is the issue , lately when driving my passlock dash light will come on. It is the one that looks like a vehicle with a lock. It doesn't happen all the time just every once in awhile..And so far the vehicle does not shut down or anything like that ....Now tonight my alarm on my vehicle started going off for no reason, when i tryed to reset with remote (i have two remotes and i tryed both ) my overhead light by windshield would not go off. So I had to just lock the doors with my key to get the light to go off , so passlock (alarm) is not set. Also if you know with remote when locking the vehicle you get a beep and lights flash to let you know it is set , mine would just start going off again as if you hit the panick button on the remote. Please if anyone can answer for me that would be awesome !
  • If anyone can help it would be great , i am a female and cars are not my thing. I have a 2005 Saturn Ion 2 , here is the issue , lately when driving my passlock dash light will come on. It is the one that looks like a vehicle with a lock. It doesn't happen all the time just every once in awhile..And so far the vehicle does not shut down or anything like that ....Now tonight my alarm on my vehicle started going off for no reason, when i tryed to reset with remote (i have two remotes and i tryed both ) my overhead light by windshield would not go off. So I had to just lock the doors with my key to get the light to go off , so passlock (alarm) is not set. Also if you know with remote when locking the vehicle you get a beep and lights flash to let you know it is set , mine would just start going off again as if you hit the panick button on the remote. Please if anyone can answer for me that would be awesome !
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,109
    natraldoc,
    Was the work described in your post performed at one of our dealerships? If so, we'd be happy to follow up on your visit with them. Please email us at socialmedia@gm.com with more information (including your name and contact information, the last 8 digits of your VIN, and a brief summary of the situation).

    Sarah, GM Customer Service
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,109
    froggy666,
    One thing that the manual recommends when the PASSLOCK system is acting funny is to check the fuses. Check out p. 5-93 of your manual for information on how to find the fuse blocks on your vehicle.

    Sarah, GM Customer Service
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