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Cadillac Escalade

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  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    It may be a 2WD Escalade. Either that, or for the sake of "looks" they went ahead and screwed up the Stabilitrac and are dealing with the dashboard light being on all the time.
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Alex,

    Someone over on the Lexus LX470 topic spoke of a "Garmin GPS III+ on the dash...less than $500!" for his navigation needs.

    I do not know what that is but maybe you are familiar with it. Hope this helps.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I bet lowering it and putting on the 22" rims helps a lot with using the off-road capabilities of an SUV :) Can't wait to jack up my porsche and put on some nice BFG MT's with 15" steel rims, and 33" tires. Afterall the Carrera 4 is an AWD vehicle! :)

    -mike

    PS: before you flame, I'm just bustin on you guys, no harm intended.
  • This past weekend I went to drive all the cars advertised. I arrived at the event late but anyway, here goes.

    The Cadillac Escalade is very fast in from 0-60 and I was amazed how well it handled through the cones. It was more car-like and the suspension is Deville-like on sample pothole-like things in the pavement. The engine sound was noticeable but not loud once press on the gas. Interior Design is nice same as exterior design which I said beforehand which I would never praised about any truck exterior as drop-dead gorgeous but this one. This beast has prestige and presence; and the Navigator, I HATE IT. I will tell you why. Over the logstrips and suction-like things on the track, it was harsh and rocked me somewhat, the Escalade was the opposite. It was hard to handle the truck through the cones and it clumsily lean and wallow and every thing. This is a pure truck that is obviously outdated. It had decent enough power but the SUV's looks is not as bold and flashy like the Escalade. The inside sucks!

    Better in interior Design: Escalade
    Better exterior design: Escalade
    Better 0-60: Escalade
    Better car-like handler: Escalade
    Money no object, which to buy: Escalade

    The technology of the Bose system was great same as for nightvision and On-star demonstration at the event. Absolutely different and world-class by yours truly, Cadillac.

    J "CaddyLac"
  • mbclk430mbclk430 Posts: 58
    I guess the rims and tires are needed for the 500hp supercharged engine it also has......will probably blow the doors off your porsche.......lol.
  • dapetrundapetrun Posts: 15
    Alexjr1: I had an Alpine NVE-N852A receiver installed in the center console and an Alpine TME-750A 6.5 inch wide screen mounted to top leading edge of dash just above the radio. It works great and I don't have to take my eyes of the road to see the graphics of the mapping. I wanted it located so as to be within my peripheal vision. I've used others where the screen is located low in the console and it is much more dangerous to use. Total cost was $2650 installed (north Pittsburgh). Go to Alpine's web site and click on the link to locate dealers. Punch in your zip and read the list of dealers in your area. I would stay away from Circuit Cities and the like and concentrate on professional installs. My guy quoted me a price right off the top of his head without heitation (installed). This told me that he has done many of these installs on similar cars and knows exactly what to quote and still make a profit. Circuit City Mgr took 25 minutes and said it would be about $3500. I can send pics of the screen but the receiver is tucked under the console and out of view. Also, had complete entertainment system installed with same screens mounted in the backs of both front head rests. Awesome, includes TV/tuner with switching between TV/VCR/DVD-Sony Playstation. Sound piped through the cars sound sytem through FM modulator. Or/also, use the wireless headphones to watch the movies and let the driver listen to CD's tape or radio.
  • 4u24u2 Posts: 17
    Is NightVision offered on the '02 Escalade? It is not listed as standard/optional equipment on the Escalade.
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Night Vision is not available on the '02 Escalade.
  • I bought a Magellan 750M system from AutoNav 2000 in San Jose, CA, for use in my 2002 Escalade. It is essentially an extremely portable version of the Magellan system known as "NeverLost" in the Hertz rental fleet. It now comes with the entire USA preloaded, altho' streetlevel detail is only in medium size cities and larger. Anyway, the "brain" sits in a small briefcase under the backseat and the control unit fits absolutely perfectly in the small flip up compartment of the center armrest console. You can still flip the console closed and nothing shows to would-be thieves. The navigation system works very well and I'm delighted. Plus I bought an extra antenna and extension cord so the whole system can be unplugged and taken on trips in 2 minutes for use in other cars. AutoNav2000 is a real service-oriented business and easy to work with. Look for the 750M in the product section of their website: www.autonav2000.com.
  • heatwave3heatwave3 Posts: 462
    sweetjeldorado: The article you cited above came to the following conclusion "The Denali could be the best premium full-size SUV on the market — even if it doesn't say "Cadillac" on the fender."

    Also if your looking for all the luxury of the Escalade but need or want the extra space of a Suburban over a Yukon, your only choice is a Denali XL as the Escalade is not available in the larger body style.
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    From what I have read, Cadillac will be bringing out an "XL" version of the Escalade. Probably in '02 as an '03.
  • You can "appropriatly" lower/level a 4wd ESC. or Denali. Not sure of cost, but in So. Cal check out "Chariots of Fire" in San Diego (they have a web site). I have seen their work and is great. They won't even tell how they do it, but it is clean. No dash light problem. In the market for a Esc./Denali, 2002. Still undecided on which one. Found a dealer in Az who will sell Denali for $500 under invoice and with a certificate that GM sent me for $1000 off, $1500 UNDER INVOICE IS HARD TO BEAT.
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    I still say they are messing up the correct function of the Stabilitrak by lowering the vehicle. Maybe they have found a way to keep the dash light out. With a certain degree of lowering, and the right wheels, they do look good, but the truck is having much of it's utility compromised, not to mention technology such as Stabilitrak that you are paying a premium for with the Escalade vs. any other SUV.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
    ....but I'm here to announce the new Cadillac Escalade Owners club now available on Edmunds.com Owner's Club board. Please stop by and introduce yourself in Meet the Members and let me know how I can help build your club.

    I have linked this discussion into that folder, but it will always reside here in SUVs.

    Looking forward to meeting everyone!

    KarenS
    Host
    Owner's Clubs

    Community Manager If you have any questions or concerns about the Forums, send me an email, karen@edmunds.com, or click on my screen name to send a personal message.

  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Since stability control systems don't take into account the ride height of the vehicle, lowering or raising it will not affect its function. Many MB M-class owners have lowered their vehicles or raised them with no ill effects...the M-class has come with electronic stability control as standard equipment since 1998.


    You may find this article interesting:

    http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/safety/articles/45992/article.html


    Drew
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    Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Are you sure of that? I'll bet that Cadillac and/or MB will not stand behind a car that has modified from stock in regards to the electronic stability control systems... Just my guess though.

    -mike
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    None of the stability control system components (steering angle sensor, lateral and yaw sensors, wheel speed sensors, and of course the control box) can detect the height of the vehicle. The ML55 has a lower stance than all of the other MLs, but its ESP is unchanged. Since the body of the vehicle is lowered, the limits are actually higher since the centre of gravity is decreased; read the stability control will probably activate a little later.

    HOWEVER, lowering an Escalade may be different/difficult because it rides on an air suspension, IIRC. IF the stability control system does play around with the suspension settings, then it may affect the warranty.


    Drew
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  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Well, from what one of the service managers told me, the Escalade's suspension/ride computer systems are constantly sensing the vehicle dymanics to sense of something is "wrong", and by lowering the vehicle it causes the computer to detect that something is "wrong", and therefore the warning light on the dashboard goes on and stays on.

    Perhaps the warning light is the extent of the "problems", since the vehicle is not performing/riding as designed and as the computer is checking to ensure it is performing.

    Beyond that, lowered vehicles can look good when lowered to a certain extent.
  • gjockeygjockey Posts: 11
    Hello,

    I remember a while back somebody on the site mentioned getting a "screw on" chrome grille attatched to their Escalade... has anybody else seen these? Anybody know who makes them? Thanks--- John
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    I have seen them and they do look good. An aftermarket add-on available through your dealer, although I am sure they will ask top dollar for it.
  • gjockeygjockey Posts: 11
    Thanks Rob,


        I'll check around with dealers about the chrome grille. Also, anybody reading this know if any carbon fiber kits are available yet for the 2002 Escalade? I'm sure everybody here knows that the Escalade is a mix of real wood and wood simulated plastic.. I'd like to get carbon fiber trim to replace the plastic wood parts... although, kits are now available to replace the plastic bits with real wood too if you want to keep the wood look

    http://www.wooddashfactory.com/pages/orders/orders2.cfm?make=4

  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    It seems that the aftermarket tuner shops that do work on Escalades have carbon fiber kits.


    Check out Special Vehicle Concepts at:

    http://www.specialvehicles.com/escalade/


    Although I don't know if they will sell it to you separately (I think it's part of a complete package), and if they will it will most assuredly be expensive.

  • gjockeygjockey Posts: 11
    Thnx Rob, I'm hoping one of those wood dash kit places will spec out a carbon fiber kit soon. ---- John

    P.S. the recent Motor Trend has a 1 page thing on the SVC Escalade
  • gjockeygjockey Posts: 11
    Has anybody tried adding a subwoofer? The upper range of the Bose is OK to me and not worth messing with but I'm finding the Bass to be all mid Bass. I was thinking about 1 of those Kicker Solobaric 12" in a custom box with an amp with an adjustable crossover and killing the OEM Bose Sub in the Escalade. My question is, does anybody know what the Crossover point is for the Bose Factory Subwoofer? I'm afraid that Bose might have a real high crossover point that most "true" subwoofers don't extend out to.. Thanks------ John
  • gjockeygjockey Posts: 11
    Placed a call to the Bose Automotive Division- Got the number from the main Bose HQ. I left a message and to my surprise, 3 days later they called. The Subwoofer in the 2002 Escalade is set at a Lo Pass of 150 Hz (which obviously is on the high side). Interestingly, they also told me the Door speakers "approximately" get 150 Hz high Pass. Hope this helps anybody contemplating replacing the sub. The upshot of this is you need to find a Sub that is comfortable playing rather "high" bass. Most Car stereo shops don't have a clue and would probably set you up with something that is meant for 100 Hz and under. John
  • We recently had a complete brake failure with a 2001 Yukon XL, very scarey. Please take a look at the thread in the SUV forum and respond if you've had a similar failure.

    joe_jensen "Brake Failures on GM Fullsize SUVs?" Aug 28, 2001 8:13am
  • hey guys i am waiting for my 02 escalade bk full loaded buying for 51,000 nj dealer any thing better out there $$$$ and what else should i look out for with the suv and problem
  • My husband and I are greatly impressed with the 2WD '02 Escalade. For those that have bought an '02, what has been the price you have paid? We checked with one dealer here in the San Antonio, TX area and they are wanting sticker; we refuse to pay sticker, considering the TMV from Edmunds is around $45000.
  • sbizang,

    Clarification: Around $45,000 for 2wd; AWD is around $48,500
  • I have seen a lot of Escalades and they all look good.

    I have a very good question? What is the point of lowering the Escalade or any SUV for that matter 2-4 inches or whatever to the payment. Is the concept of having an SUV is to see everything ahead of the road and be more alert more so than anyone in a car? What about for safety purposes also if you get into an accident like getting hit for an example? What gives?

    I don't like the aftermarket blackout grill with the surround chrome on the Escalade. I prefer the standard Escalade grill. The aftermarket rims setup is O.K. on the SUV.

    You guys won't believe it but I saw an Escalade with a Rolls Royces like grill some weeks ago. It looks good I thought but looks kind of chintzy in a way.

    Looks like Cadillac is trying to find some way to retain their aftermarket suppliers at the dealerships. As much as I like the Escalade, the Escalade should be left as it is, original.

    J "CaddyLac"
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