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Cadillac Escalade

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  • gap2006gap2006 Posts: 20
    Thank you very much!!

    I'm ordering them today.

    Greg
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    So what color did you get?
  • gap2006gap2006 Posts: 20
    I got the black/black with 22's. Very sharp looking I must say.
  • auto007auto007 Posts: 5
    I actually have zero POI's in the NAV. I really don't recall when I picked the vehicle up 2 weeks ago on hearing the spinning of the DVD was as noticeable as it is now. True that having the radio up lessens the noise, but it's still annoying.

    I'm always afraid to bring it into the dealer to have them fix things. Usually when they touch an issue it is 100% worse. So if I tell them to lower the lights, they probably would lower them too low! But maybe the Caddi dealer is different then others.

    What type of cleaning solutions does everyone use on the seats and dash?

    Anyone have a cargo net for what it's worth, it should hold a bottle of water with the small space. If so, where does one get one cheap ?

    I was pondering the idea of mud flaps from that ebay dealer, however a friend said that the reason they don't come with them was because it made it worse... Though it is a good question as to why no mud flaps with them anymore.
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    I got a cargo net off ebay. It's good because it will hold in all the groceries that have to be stacked in the small space behind the 3rd row. I got it off ebay for $9.00. It's a vertical net, not a hold down. Let's me stack stuff up.

    As for the flappers, they work fine. I'm in snow country, and having all the mud and sand filling up the running boards was quite annoying. Also, the black finish was starting to look "sand blasted" up each front door from the dry sand on the freeways around here. I ran through a couple of snow melt puddles today, and they do the job reasonable. It's not going to stop the misting that occurs, but no direct hits along the doors under the mirrors.

    Unless its part of the cladding design (like the 01-06 Denali's), they leave them for the accessory bin. Extra revenue, and its one of those things that are based more on demographics, than overall need.

    Headlights shouldn't be an issue for the dealer. There's a set procedure. I'm thinking that maybe the factory did the light adjustments before the spare, and rear seats were installed. (Just a guess). That could be enough missing weight to make the adjustment too high. Something they would fine-tune on the assembly line as compaints come in, so do it.

    Dave
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  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,529
    "The 2007 Cadillac Escalade is easily the most refined domestic SUV on the market. It's satisfyingly quick, reassuringly agile and surprisingly quiet and luxurious."

    Full Test: 2007 Cadillac Escalade (Inside Line)

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  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    I just read the previous post/redirect for Edmunds review of the 2007 Escalade, which I bought in March. The one thing that I find curious, because it's not subjective (like looks, or ride quality, etc), are the performance results.

    Motor Trend's Test: 15.2 1/4 Mile & 0-60 in 6.5 secs
    Car & Driver Test: 14.8 1/4 Mile & 0-60 in 6.3 secs
    Edmunds Test: 15.8 1/4 Mile & 0-60 in 7.5 secs

    These tests were on the same vehicle, AWD configuration, and similarly equipped (max options).

    Are we talking skinny and fat drivers, passengers, test equipment, elevation, what? Seems that there has to be something very different on each case to make such large differences, especially with Edmunds.

    What's funny is that Car & Driver actually tested the GL450 which was noted in the Edmund's article, and it was SLOWER than the Escalade in the 1/4 Mile and 0-60 test. Braking distance is where the GL450 shined in both reviews.

    What's a poor boy to think?
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,529
    You can ask them yourself with a Letter to the Editors.

    I do know that the test results are adjusted for altitude.

    This may help too:

    Subject: Why Are Your Drivers So Slow?. (You'll have to scroll almost all the way to the end).

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  • franmike1franmike1 Posts: 1
    Greetings,

    I have a 2007 ESV on order, gold mist, fairly well loaded. My question is regarding the 22" wheels. The Automobile review had overall positive comments pertaining to the Escalade, but in my mind some very negative comments concerning the ride quality (pitching and yawing). Any comments regarding this?

    Thanks for your repliew--I have sold my 2000 Yukon XL and am really looking forward to this vehicle, especially the sound system.

    One further question, with the rear seat entertainment option in an ESV, I believe I get a total of three DVD screens--one in the dash, one for second row passengers and one for third row passengers. This is not at all clear in the brochures but a GM rep confirmed it. Has anyone heard/seen anything different?
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    Regarding the "pitching and yawing" comments. I have owned 3 previous generations of GM SUV's 1 Suburban, 1 Denali, and 1 Denali XL. My description of these vehicles is like riding a cow on rollerskates. The '07 that I got in March rides more like my wife's BMW X3 than the previous vehicles (on 22's). The shorter sidewall makes the flexing less evident. Smaller diameter rims would actually provide a cushy ride, at the expense of less directd road feel. That's why most high perf vehicles, like BMW, use short sidewall (low profile) tires.

    In addition, the Rack & Pinion steering keeps the vehicle from seeking ruts like the previous generation steering system did.

    The fact this was even mentioned is odd, since 3 other reviews, from Car & Driver, Motor Trend and even Edmunds regards the handling of the new generation GM's as superior to anything else GM has produced (SUV wise). All these reviews included the 22 wheel option.

    The only explanation that I can make (not having read the article), is that the reviewer's past experience was with car's only.

    As far as the DVD screens, I can't say with authority, although I've heard there is an additional screen.

    I was dissapointed with the DVD option on my '07 because of the fact that when you load the DVD in the 6-CD changer, and play a movie for those in back, you cannot have a Music CD playing for yourself. You are stuck using AM/FM/XM or listening to the movie audio.

    My '05 Denali had the DVD player in the roof too, but you also loaded the DVD into the roof unit. Maybe a bit clumsy trying to deal with it from the front seats, but still provided the most entertainment flexibility for both front and rear passengers.
  • gap2006gap2006 Posts: 20
    I just bought an '07 Escalade on 22s after having driven probably one of the best handling sedans made, the MB E500. I like to take tight turns and I like to feel the road somewhat. I can tell you that although the Escalade is not an E500, nor was it meant to be, it handles very very well, 1000 times better than my Ford Pickup and better than my wife Lexus GX. I can take curves pretty well and don't feel like I'm losing control. If you want a cushier ride or are mainly using the car for city driving with a lot of rough roads and pot holes then I would recommend the 20 or 18s. My cousin has the 20s and drives in the city all the time. I opted for the 22s because they look great and the ride is perfectly fine for suburban driving.

    I think that Edmunds's article is off base. Either they drove a lemon, or the writer is biased because no other review is consistent with it.

    Good luck. By the way my cousin has the gold mist and it is a beautiful color!
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  • auto007auto007 Posts: 5
    Hi,

    Anyone have any ideas where to get 1 factory 22" Escalade 07 FACTORY wheel/tire? It appears according to my local dealer this is a special order item that takes 2 days to get updated on availablity that could be months?

    It's hard to believe this and any insight on how to obtain it faster would be great!

    I was also told that the tire is a problem as well...

    Thanks
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    Right now, most sources other than GM (like eBay) are only selling complete sets.

    This wheel option is in short supply at the factory because the percentage of vehicles being ordered with 22" wheels is several times more than GM anticipated. Good luck!

    Dave
  • gap2006gap2006 Posts: 20
    I just picked up a couple of parts for my '07 from an Ebay dealer. I don't know if he could help or not but I'll give you the link. I didn't see any wheels except for a whole set when I just checked but it wouldn't hurt to email him and tell him what you're looking for. Good luck.

    http://stores.ebay.com/Bill-Dodge-BMW-GMC-Pontiac-Buick_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZQ- 2d999QQftidZ2QQtZkm

    Greg
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    As promised, I am providing some comments on the new 403hp engine with 6spd tranny while towing.

    The total weight of the boat/trailer is 4200 lbs. Tongue weight is about 350 lbs (depends on fuel in boat).

    We went to a lake that's about 55 miles from home (Mother's Day outing). It required driving 20 miles on I-80 (over Donner Summit in the Sierra Nevada), and 30 miles on Hwy 20 to Nevada City. These roads are up and down, and Highway 20 has several 30 mph hairpins. There are several steep uphill and downhill grades, which RV's typically go 30mph floored (up).

    As indicated in my previous post, the reason I wanted the new GM was mostly because of the transmission. The previous GM 4 spds left much to be desired, since any uphills required 2nd gear, 4-5k rpm engine speeds to keep up with traffic.

    I'm am really happy about how the Caddy handles the hills. I usually would manually hold gears in the old GM's, but in the Caddy, I just put it in TOW mode, and it does some amazing things (IMO).

    Going UP, the tranny would find a gear that did not require more than 3500 rpms (staying around 60mph). This meant that I could still STOMP on it, and get the next lower gear to pass (up hill).

    Going DOWN, the tranny would dn-shift anytime you slowed down. The gear it will shift to depends on how much brake you are applying. On one stretch of brake smoking downhill, I would normally manually downshift into 2nd gear (old GM) just to maintain about 60. However, even with the trailer equiped with 4 whl discs, it would still require some brake pressue to maintain speed. The Caddy dn-shifted into a gear that kept the engine around 4k rpm, and I did not have to apply brakes.

    It was a little un-nerving to have it do this at first, but once I understood the relationship between braking pressure, and the auto dn-shifts, it was welcome. No more using the shift selector to control speeds up or down. The OLD GM's would do too much gear seeking in just tow-mode, and this was annoying. Also, the Caddy's shifts are not as harsh like the tow-mode in the old 4 spd.

    Dave

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  • normalnormal Posts: 19
    Very nice looking vehicle. :)
  • sflemingsfleming Posts: 12
    awf axis,

    GREAT report. This is just what I was hoping to hear. I guess Detroit can still do a couple things right after all. ;=)

    Yer gonna have to git a new boat to go with that very cool truck man! :=))
  • bobryanbobryan Posts: 3
    I live in Orlando, Florida. I can't seem to get any good deals in on new cars in central Florida. The last three new model cars I purchase came from North Carolina and South Carolina. Please advise of any Cadillac dealers in the Southeast who sell large volumes at a small profit.
  • normalnormal Posts: 19
    I just took an 07 for a test drive, fully loaded including 22's. I was very impressed with the ride and power, I may be taking the plunge in the near future.
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,529
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  • carnutincacarnutinca Posts: 35
    You definately need to upgrade the vessel to keep up with the spankin' new E-slade. Very nice!
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  • sflemingsfleming Posts: 12
    Ooops, I Should Have Never Gone To See the GL 450 by sfleming Jun 13, 2006

    I was really jazzed on an '07 Escalade for the wife and I was going to get an EXT in a couple months. We've waited an extra year to replace our outdated rides for the new engine, tranny and style on the "07.

    Then we heard about the Mercedes GL 450. First I went to see it and was pretty impressed. I feared the wife would disdain its somewhat narrower and shorter (height) aspects. She hauls a lot of $%!# ! We live on a large ranch far from town and haul big loads of everything. Her family all drive Mercedes however and she knows they are good automobiles. She loved it. I loved it. I actually had more room in the front passenger seat than in my wifes expedition. (I'm 6'2" and 240 pounds) It was very quick. Quicker than the 'slade. It rode better and much quieter. The fittings and appointments are just about 100% superior to the american truck. The brakes were a whole nuther world to me. Holy Larry, Moe & Curly ! I didn't know 5500 pounds could stop that fast! With all the options we want compared to the same or near same on the Cadillac .... it's cheaper. The Mercedes will certainly have better resale value than the Cadillac. It has several options you can't get on the Escalade. Did I mention the thing is whisper quiet?

    The only thing we felt would be better on the Cadillac was cargo capacity. Nope. The poorly storing second row rear seats in the Escalade eat up any extra space and you don't get a flat floor no matter what you do or what kind of seats you get. Then there are the ridiculous third row seats you have to drag in and out if you use said third row. Mercedes disappear into the floor in 4 seconds. They're nicer seats too.

    I am now so ruined by my discovery of just what a Mercedes really IS .... I can't even get excited about the EXT. I've driven trucks all my life ... 40 years since I turned 16 and in my retirement I fancied myself tooling around in my very own caddy 'trucklette'. My dogs were all excited about getting to run from the truck bed to the back of my seat so they could snuffle my ears at will and then run outside and 'fly' down the road. How do I explain to them it may now never happen? Well .... at least the rear windows on the GL 450 go down all the way. hmmmmmmm his and hers GL 450s ? Why the ____ not?
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    I feel for you on the GL450 thing. Looking at build quality to its design inovations, it really is a nicely put together vehicle. There was a interesting comparison on the two machines in either Car & Driver, Motor Trend or Road & Track. Being a performance junkie, I find solace in the fact that the Cadillac did beat the GL450 in the 1/4 mile, even though it had slower 0-60 times.

    My main decision was based totally on an emotional point; the "cool factor". The GL looks too much like a large Toyota RAV 4. Certainly the wrong way to approach vehicle selection, but there you have it.

    I believe that German engineering is superior to most american counterparts (I have a BMW X3 too), but the better designs haven't translated into reliability. The JD Power comparison put Mercedes below Cadillac this year, which is quite a surprise. Last year, they were tied. (JD Power survey released earlier this month).
  • gap2006gap2006 Posts: 20
    I would just give you one caution, the electrical system and software. Having driven a Mercedes for the last 6 years before my '07 Escalade I have some experience with the brand. Mechanically, they are excellent as only a German car can be. My 2000 was great, no problems. Then came my 2003 in which they added a Nav system and variety of other gadgets in the console. After a year of trying, MB gave up and quietly recalled thousands of cars, including mine, and simply replaced them, no questions asked. Even with the new car there were numerous recalls involving brakes, transmission and electronics. Even as I was turning the car in there was nothing but static coming out of the speakers after pushing a button on my Nav system. These issues are common to thousands of vehicles, not just mine(in other words, I didn't have an isolated lemon). I don't have any idea if the GL has any of these issues but having been a loyal Mercedes owner I would check these aspects out before buying. I fully expect MB to resolve these problems over the next couple of years and will probably buy again. In the meantime, I have no problem supporting the USA and GM. Good luck whatever you decide.
  • I Hope Cadillac Escalade Hybrid gets the big one this time, this is an event in history.
  • awf_axisawf_axis Posts: 136
    I've heard about the "Hybrid" for Escalade, but for the life of me, I can't understand why. Are they going to do the same for the Hummer?

    Seems to me that people willing to pay $60k plus for a SUV, are not concerned about fuel economy, or the environment for that matter. Like putting a band-aid on a severed leg.

    The Escalade already weights in near 3 tons. Another 700 plus pounds of electric motor and batteries will put this truck into another classification.

    If you need good mileage in an SUV, buy a 3 row RAV4 or similar.

    I bought this monster for towing the boat and family camping trips (and to look "cool" while doing it). Otherwise, it sits in the garage.

    Dave
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