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  • vad1819vad1819 Posts: 309
    Thanks. Good clips. Honda will look like MDX.
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  • skausskaus Posts: 11
    Hi All
    Yesterday I was 95 miles from home and I had a transmission leak from the filter.
    I lost 3 qts of oil. I replaced the filter and put 3 qts back . The reason I looked under the hood was 2 fold. I kept stalling at my destination and the ABS light was on. The engine would stall only if I applied the brake pedal.

    Six hrs later in panic mode ,having to drive 85 miles back home I found 1 solution.
    Remove fuse from brake and I made it home. If I but the fuse back in and press the brake pedal the engine will die .

    Okay my transmission was soaked with oil. I cleaned off all oil. I checked the wiring harness and it was clean .

    **In front of transmission are 2 sensors or switches.
    If I look at wiring diagram it shows Brake transmission safety interlock ,Brake sense switch and stop light switch all in series. Could one of these be my problem?
    Another thing when I step on brake pedal the dash board left and right signals light up dimly .
    Please let me know what you think. Thanks
  • take it to a mechanic...seems like your post may be better served in another forum. good luck
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,950
    Yeah, I would copy/paste that post over in the Transmission Traumas? discussion, Skaus. Good luck with it!
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    The other irony I find around these CUV's are the 19/20" rims that imply performance and all they do is degrade ride and add weight exactly where you don't want it in light of vanity. I don't think they upgrade the brakes either in light of the additional weight so all this implied upgraded performance more often than not comes at a perfomance penalty and actually costs you more money for the privilege.

    Oh well- if your in the market for a CUV you're already paying more for a vehicle that is smaller and less spacious than a minivan for performance only a little better. You wanted a better looking vehicle, why not add a little more flash.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    Given this is a political town, you can't throw a rock without hitting a Prius, and when it ricochets off it'll probably hit another Prius.

    Not that was funny juice!

    I'm glad you pointed out that sketch of the Accord coupe. I've always thought Honda did a great job, at least recently, of hyping up their new models with those awesome looking sketches then delivering a ho-hum production version. The Accord concepts and sketches looked fantastic, but the production version is awkward looking IMO. I hated the last gen but I'm starting to think it was better proportioned than the new one.

    The next Pilot will come out just when we're ready to lease again but I fear it will be terrible looking, agian IMO, too. If it has a strange front end like the CR-V or MDX then they can keep it and I'll go elsewhere.
  • vad1819vad1819 Posts: 309
    "I fear it will be terrible looking, agian IMO, too. If it has a strange front end like the CR-V or MDX then they can keep it and I'll go elsewhere."

    From spy pictures is looking not bad. The front end look like Pilot now , rear and shape of the roof like MDX.
  • vad1819vad1819 Posts: 309
    "Oh well- if your in the market for a CUV you're already paying more for a vehicle that is smaller and less spacious than a minivan for performance only a little better. You wanted a better looking vehicle, why not add a little more flash."

    This is statement absolutely no make sense, and more important from person, who's defending CX-9. From your statement followed next, that the all luxury car is just a flash. But guess what, if the following your statement, that people who lives in the big houses is also flash. Oh well, let's move to apartment. Why not?
    I've always couldn't understand why people who can't afforded saying a such thing.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    From spy pictures is looking not bad. The front end look like Pilot now , rear and shape of the roof like MDX.

    If you are referring to the spy pics Edmunds and a host of other car sites posted a few months ago then I don't agree with your assessment. Those were at night and were showing a Ridgeline grille (which would be a big mistake IMO) and a somewhat different roofline and greenhouse. Maybe it was more MDX-like, I can't really remember but nevertheless, Honda's SUV/CUV grilles have not been pretty as of late. Having said that, if the production version of the next Pilot looks like what we've seen in the spy pics then it will definitely not look like the sketch we've all see which proves mine and juice's point.
  • We just wrapped up a month in our new Enclave, and it is an awesome vehicle. Great in snow, and the heated windshield wash is a saviour in the ice.
    It is much bigger than our BMW X-5 we traded in and the kids love the room, especially the 3rd row. This is the new family car that reminds me of the big wagons my parents had in the 70s. It is great for trips. We can't wait to take a really long trip next summer.
    As an added benefit, we get so many compliments on it. Never happened with the X-5.
  • vad1819vad1819 Posts: 309
    Good choice. Congrat. It's good to hear about compliments you got. GM is back.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Coming from an X-5, I'm sure you're happy with the size. Have you ever owned a minivan because I'm curious about owners moving from a minivan to something like an Enclave.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Thanks, scott.

    Awesome video. Did you see all the empty shells piling up on the roof?

    Any how, after seeing that, and how customized it is, I sort of doubt they'll use a hybrid anything for that application. Think about how much the gun weighs. Hybrid batteries weigh a lot, so I doubt they'd even try to package both in the same car.

    Then again, one big car probably carries that gun, and the other, Secret Service Agents.

    Heated windshields are great. Mirrors too. The mirrors clear even when it's just raining. It aids in visibility big time.

    I won't mention which vehicle in my fleet has those! ;)
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    This is statement absolutely no make sense, and more important from person, who's defending CX-9. From your statement followed next, that the all luxury car is just a flash. But guess what, if the following your statement, that people who lives in the big houses is also flash. Oh well, let's move to apartment. Why not?
    I've always couldn't understand why people who can't afforded saying a such thing.


    What? I shouldn't even respond to this statement. But oh well.

    From a person who's defending the Cx-9? First of all, though I'm not biased, anyone who's read my posts would know I lean more toward the Acadia. Luxury cars? Yep- flash (and some technology). My 545i? Flash. There is nothing wrong with a conventional Camry. Let's move to apartment? I no clue you what saying.
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    True. Honda's sketches tend to be greatly exaggerated.

    I think their sketches are pretty close to the designs. A lot more than other brands. The Accord looked pretty close from drawing to concept to production to me(save the really low greenhouse, and 20 inch rims). Of course, the original drawing wasn't that flashy or ou there. Some one said the old Accord looks better than the new one. What?! That's crazy. The new one, while still a bit plain, looks so much better than the boring aawkward old model.

    But anyway, if the Pilot stays as true to this drawing as the Accord stayed to its, then this will be a good looking vehicle. Then again, we've only seen teaser shots- not even the whole vehicle.
  • "Midwest corn boom could expand `Dead Zone' in Gulf of Mexico

    JEFFERSON, Iowa - Because of rising demand for ethanol, American farmers are growing more corn than at any time since the Depression. And sea life in the Gulf of Mexico is paying the price.

    The nation's corn crop is fertilized with millions of pounds of nitrogen-based fertilizer. And when that nitrogen runs off fields in Corn Belt states, it makes its way to the Mississippi River and eventually pours into the Gulf, where it contributes to a growing ``dead zone'' -- a 7,900-square-mile patch so depleted of oxygen that fish, crabs and shrimp suffocate.

    The dead zone was discovered in 1985 and has grown fairly steadily since then, forcing fishermen to venture farther and farther out to sea to find their catch. For decades, fertilizer has been considered the prime cause of the lifeless spot.

    With demand for corn booming, some researchers fear the dead zone will expand rapidly, with devastating consequences.

    ``We might be coming close to a tipping point,'' said Matt Rota, director of the water resources program for the New Orleans-based Gulf Restoration Network, an environmental group. ``The ecosystem might change or collapse as opposed to being just impacted.''

    Environmentalists had hoped to cut nitrogen runoff by encouraging farmers to apply less fertilizer and establish buffers along waterways. But the demand for the corn-based fuel additive ethanol has driven up the price for the crop, which is selling for about $4 per bushel, up from a little more than $2 in 2002.

    That enticed American farmers _ mostly in Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota _ to plant more than 93 million acres of corn in 2007, the most since 1933. They substituted corn for other crops, or made use of land not previously in cultivation.

    Corn is more ``leaky'' than crops such as soybean and alfalfa _ that is, it absorbs less nitrogen per acre. The prime reasons are the drainage systems used in corn fields and the timing of when the fertilizer is applied.

    The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that up to 210 million pounds of nitrogen fertilizer enter the Gulf of Mexico each year. Scientists had no immediate estimate for 2007, but said they expect the amount of fertilizer going into streams to increase with more acres of corn planted.

    ``Corn agriculture practices release a lot of nitrogen,'' said Donald Scavia, a University of Michigan professor who has studied corn fertilizer's effect on the dead zone. ``More corn equals more nitrogen pollution.''

    Farmers realize the connection between their crop and problems downstream, but with the price of corn soaring, it doesn't make sense to grow anything else. And growing corn isn't profitable without nitrogen-based fertilizer.

    ``I think you have to try to be a good steward of the land,'' said Jerry Peckumn, who farms corn and soybeans on about 2,000 acres he owns or leases near the Iowa community of Jefferson. ``But on the other hand, you can't ignore the price of corn.''

    Peckumn grows alfalfa and natural grass on the 220 or so acres he owns, but said he cannot afford to experiment on the land he rents.

    The dead zone typically begins in the spring and persists into the summer. Its size and location vary each year because of currents, weather and other factors, but it is generally near the mouth of the Mississippi.

    This year, it is the third-biggest on record. It was larger in 2002 and 2001, when it covered 8,500 and 8,006 square miles respectively.

    Soil erosion, sewage and industrial pollution also contribute to the dead zone, but fertilizer is believed to be the chief factor.

    Fertilizer causes explosive growth of algae, which then dies and sinks to the bottom, where it sucks up oxygen as it decays. This creates a deep layer of oxygen-depleted ocean where creatures either escape or die.

    Bottom-dwelling species such as crabs and oysters are most at risk, said Michelle Perez, an analyst with the Washington-based Environmental Working Group. ``They struggle to survive,'' Perez said. ``They can't swim away.''

    Crabbers complained at a meeting in Louisiana earlier this year that they pulled up bucket upon bucket of dead crabs.

    Rota warned that if the corn boom continues, the Gulf of Mexico could see an ``ecological regime change.'' The fear is that the zone will grow so big that most sea life won't be able to escape it, leading to an even bigger die-off.

    ``People's livelihood depends on the shrimp, fish and crabs in these waters,'' he said. ``Already, some of these shrimpers are traveling longer and longer distances to catch anything.''

    Given the market pressure to grow corn, the Natural Resources Defense Council and others argue that the nation needs a comprehensive, federal approach to the problem.

    Among the ideas floated: rules to force farmers to use fertilizers with more care, and the establishment of buffer zones to contain runoff."

    no flex fuel CUV's yet??? no hybrid CUV's yet??? 35mpg is coming...

    still more than a little befuddled by the fact diesel and biodiesel are not being pushed more but that wouldn't have anything to do with corn prices doubling and special interests now would it... nah... fuel supply related to the food supply = not good for anyone...
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    Some one said the old Accord looks better than the new one. What?! That's crazy. The new one, while still a bit plain, looks so much better than the boring aawkward old model.


    That was me and it was my opinion. No, I'm not crazy and looks are subjective keep in mind. I once thought the new Accord was better looking than the old but then I saw a few on the street. It has a mid-nineties Saturn sedan/George Jetson bubble greenhouse with a flat hood and trunk look to it. At least the old one was proportionate in its ugliness. This new one is ugly and awkward looking IMO.

    Honda had better do a better job with the next Pilot or I'm not going to get near it. That means don't try to be different with the styling like with the CR-V and MDX. Then keep the center stack button count below 5 million of the same shape, same sized buttons. Oh, and don't make me buy the top trim just to get the DVD system.
  • vad1819vad1819 Posts: 309
    I think new Accord something between Sonata and BMW 5 series. The front and shape of the roof, door look like from the side Sonata, but if you look from behind its' bmw 5 series. Which is nothing wrong, but I have only one Q what kind msg Honda did tried to bring to the customer ? Is it "Buy me - I almost BMW "?
    That's right almost BMW. It's like Lexus almost Mercedes.
    I'm not big fan of japanes cars anyway. I like some cars like Supra. It's descent sporty car.
    Also about CRV - CUV. We had discussion early about ugliest CUV in the market = CRV.
    The first time I've seen it on internet, I thought look good, something different. Then i went test drive and my opinion changed quick. Inside they have tried to make like in the Odyssey -van, outside it's egg. I don't know what designer was thinking about.
    It's ugliest thing in the world.
  • accord forum anyone,

    accord forum to a white courtesey telephone...

    forum host answers...

    accord forum you are missing at least two members please come get them...

    I hear they have a beige xmas tree if you can believe it over there...

    happy holidays
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    I think you mean this: Honda Accord

    :)

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
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