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Crossover SUV Comparison

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  • larryqwlarryqw Posts: 52
    I'm also a big fan of the Taurus X, and bought a T-X Limited two months ago. I also looked a lot at the Flex but just didn't like the square look of it. My nickname for the Flex is the maxi-mini.

    It looks like Ford may continue the T-X for another year into 2009, since the plant is making Taurus Sedans anyway, the production is done, and there's minimal cost in keeping it going, as long as they don't advertise, which they don't. (I can't believe the Divorced Dad commercial. Divorce is about as warm feeling as baby killing. Was Ford trying to kill the sales!? ) Also, Ford may want to keep the T-X around in case the Flex is too radical and doesn't sell. A CYA thing.

    In 2010, it looks like the T-X will morph with the Explorer into the Explorer America concept. This is the Explorer moved from a truck Body-on-Frame to the Taurus D32 unibody car-like platform. It will have a lot of the features of the Taurus X in a modern but less boxy look. This may be appealing to those like me who don't like the Flex style.
  • I just got a 08 Ford Taurus X SEL. On occasion when I come to a stop, I get a feeling like the car will not stop. One time I noticed that when my foot was pressing the brake, it had caught the edge of the gas pedal, and I was also pressing the gas at the same time. But now that I have been conscious of not doing that, I still get the feeling like the car doesn't want to slow down when I'm braking. I get a feeling that the car is downshifting or something like that and it seems to lurch forward or that the engine slightly revs up. Is anyone else having this problem?
  • freealfasfreealfas Posts: 652
    my size 13 feet have caught both the gas & brake before. I suspect despite you consciously trying to avoid the situation you still might be doing it occasionally...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    All it needs is a Union Jack on the roof.

    I bet it would look really cool with one, too.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    All it needs is a Union Jack on the roof.

    I bet it would look really cool with one, too.


    A Jolly Roger would be my choice. :shades:
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    After hearing about this new turbo engine Ford has in the wings (and I have heard other similar stories hear and there from other companies) I'm just wondering why others aren't doing this. Especially GM. They are doing so well right now, I just hope they don't get too caught up in this hybrid hubub, because as various Toyotas prove, hubub is what it is. MPG isn't improved all that much, except in the Prius. Just think, if the lambdas had turbos like this, that model would have waiting lists like the Prius. Just a thought.
  • vad1819vad1819 Posts: 309
    Unbelievable success, even the fuel price are high.
    http://editorial.autos.msn.com/listarticle.aspx?cp-documentid=434652

    So I don't know what full size CUV get award, but Acadia is defiantly number one in full size CUV's categories.
    Plus, Lambdas win Motorweek's Drivers Choice Award: Best Crossover, 2nd year in a row.
    http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/dc2008/
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    After hearing about this new turbo engine Ford has in the wings (and I have heard other similar stories hear and there from other companies) I'm just wondering why others aren't doing this.

    Click here for more info on which Fords will be getting the EcoBoost in the near future. Note that the Flex is one.

    MT has been wrong about some things recently though so I'd wait for a second opinion myself. ;)

    I just hope they don't get too caught up in this hybrid hubub, because as various Toyotas prove, hubub is what it is.

    I agree. They still seem to be pushing E85 hard too. That has always been a mystery to me because it offers no fuel or money savings but now my pizzas cost more because farmers are growing more corn than wheat! OK, that's an oversimplification of the problem but you get the drift. :shades:
  • freealfasfreealfas Posts: 652
    "I agree. They still seem to be pushing E85 hard too. That has always been a mystery to me because it offers no fuel or money savings but now my pizzas cost more because farmers are growing more corn than wheat! OK, that's an oversimplification of the problem but you get the drift."

    the lunatic's are running the asylum as they say...

    diesel, to a white courtesy phone, diesel please pick up...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm generally pro-diesel but they have to do something about the current prices.

    Around me the price differential has crept up to 90 cents per gallon (diesel vs. 87 octane gas). :(

    Perhaps that will drop as heating oil demand drops.
  • freealfasfreealfas Posts: 652
    part of the price difference might be due to the fact they can't/don't cut it with ethanol...I don't think(someone correct me if I'm wrong)

    the other is to disuade it's popular acceptance...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Indy truckers are peeved. Let's see what happens, hopefully this is a short-term phenomenon.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    In my neck of the woods, I have yet to see any fuel station that offers E85. Plus, I have heard that E85 costs just as much as gas, and is dreadful in terms of fuel economy. Makes no sense to buy E85, unless you care about being green. I'm all about the environment, however, the green I can about is the green that I can keep in my pocket!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Now that's my kind of green.

    While we're on the subject of spending as little as possible, ALG announced its 2007 Residual Value Awards, and for CUV the winner was the Subaru Tribeca:

    https://www.alg.com/default.aspx?sid=29

    Subaru gambled on high residuals for their leases, so I guess the strategy paid off.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    In my neck of the woods, I have yet to see any fuel station that offers E85. Plus, I have heard that E85 costs just as much as gas, and is dreadful in terms of fuel economy.

    Same here, but I am told that there are 1 or 2 in the greater Pittsburgh area which do carry it. Also same as you, I'm told that it costs more than regular gas and it is widely known that you do lose a few M'sPG by putting it in your tank.

    Why would anyone want that? Yet every day I'm behind a big GM or Dodge truck or SUV which has a big shiny E85 badge on it. Ford has at least backed off of that bandwagon for the most part. I think they still sell SUVs and trucks that are capable of running the fuel, but they don't seem to be advertising it anymore through the media or via a badge on the vehicle.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    So here we have the first spy photo of the 2010 North American Ford Taurus.
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    Yes it looks a lot like the Euro Mondeo only a bit bigger. Since the TX has pretty much been cancelled after MY09 (not officially yet though) imagine what the TX could have been...

    (2008 Euro Mondeo wagon prototype)
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Don't take this personally but that first pic is ugly. Reminds me way too much of the Chrysler Sebring.
  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    It is hard to tell what it really looks like but I actually like it. Anything (other than the original Tribeca) is better than the boring Ford same old, same old.
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    Congrats! You found a way to tie something totally irrelevant to the topic in. No- I'm not being sarcastic. I wanted to put that picture here earlier today but couldn't figure out how to do it without being totally awkward and out of place.

    Looking at the concept- I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong, it's leaps and bounds over the current Taurus is terms of looks. Bit it looks as if they are still trying to get that elevated stance, as it looks to tall. I was hoping for something a little more broad shouldered and sporty-not totally 300C/G8, but from what I see, I'd rather have a Camry. Ford better not screw up again. As for what the Wagon, forget what the Taurus could have been. How about what the upcoming Flex should be?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Well, official pictures are out of the 09 Pilot, and I must say, it is just ugly. The interior is so "rubber maid" looking, and very complex. Edmunds also seems to think it will be getting Hondas new 3.5L w/ VCM like in the 08 Accord. Since chatter in the Accord threads seem to indicate that the VCM system has many flaws ranging from unimpressive fuel economy, un smooth transition from cylinder to cylinder, shutters, and basically overall unrefinement. Honda is telling these unhappy owners that the system is operating properly. What does this mean to you? Expect there to be a Pilot VCM Problem thread frequently visited.
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