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Volkswagen Passat Brake Questions

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  • You all know the problems that VW has with the ABS control module. You all know the prices they ask for them, well, I have found the Holy Grail for the failing ABS electronic module that every one has problems with. As you well know they always break down and there is no VW recall for it. The options are: get a new one which is very expensive, or get one from a junk yard. The third option I looked into is to have my ABS module rebuilt. The price is phenomenal. The company was nice enough to match another price I got from the internet from a competing company that I was truly not even able to get in touch with. I’d like to quote something I received from the company that rebuilt my ABS electronic module. “Hi
    Your are receiving this email In response to an online request you made for a used auto part, If you are searching for an Automotive Electronic Part such as an ABS Computer, ECU , Transmission Controller, Climate Controller , Digital Speedometer ,Air Flow Meter ,and many more Electronic Controllers ,than we can help you. You can call us toll free 1-800-***-**** for more Information or visit our website at www.*******.com ,Our rebuild service takes 1 to 2 business days we rebuild your original Control Module for a fraction of the price of new. We Implement our permanent rebuild solution in every controller we rebuild ,Did you know that if you are requesting a certain Electronic Control module it is probably on our List of High Failure rate Controllers these controllers if purchased used probably will fail in a short period of time or are failed when purchased, Did you know that the manufacturer of High Failure Rate Controllers have not Implemented a permanent fix for these known failures so buying new you may still experience this failure in the near future, Our permanent rebuild solution cures this Issue ,Since all controllers are updated with the highest quality components on the market.
    Thank You”
    Bottom line, the cost of rebuilt was $149. The company covers one way shipping to their destination, once they complete the work, they call you, and you pay via Paypal $149 plus shipping back to your house. The cheapest shipping I chose to have was $20 in this case because I was in no rush to get it back and I’ll later explain why. They offer over night delivery as well, for more money of course. So my total cost was $169. Try beating that price for a fully rebuilt and functional ABS control module. Originally they wanted $169 but were willing to match the price of $149. A good try on my behalf but it was worth it. The $20 discount they gave me actually covered the shipping back to my house. And I have to state that their costumer support if awesome. The reason I was in no rush to get back the ABS module is because once I removed it from my vehicle which by the way didn’t take too long, I was able to drive the car without it. So my point is, if you have the ABS module removed by a licensed mechanic no need to worry about not having a vehicle until you receive the rebuilt back. Makes sense? I believe that most people do not look into the option of having their ABS module rebuilt because it takes too long. Most mechanics (even the VW dealer) that I’ve asked about being able to drive my vehicle without the ABS module present did not have an answer as far as how safe it is to drive without it because they never encountered the situation. They told me that they always have a replacement ready when they remove the old one, therefore they couldn’t recommend what I should do. Once I removed the ABS control module, I got behind the wheel and moved the car just a bit, applied the brakes just to make sure those little pistons from the pump don’t move. So I was able to drive my car during the time my ABS was out to be rebuilt. I highly recommend the company that rebuilt my ABS control module and if enough interest is out there, I will release their private information since I do not know the exact rules of this forum, and because I’m new on this forum.
  • adrian, Can you please provide me with the vendor you had your abs control module rebuilted from? Thanks.
  • tele1tele1 Posts: 1
    could you please forward the company name and contact information for the ABS rebuild?
    Thank you!
  • I have a 2003 Passat 1.8T.
    I had the rear brakes replaced at the VW dealer about ~2 months ago. I was away for the holidays for about 3 weeks and just got back. I went to go start my car, no problem. However, when I used the brake I was so surprised.

    It feels like the back brakes are scratching, like the pads are old. But it's not a constant scratch, but like a wave, as iff there's a bump or the rotor. I hope that explains it well.

    Any thoughts?

    Help Please, Thanks!
  • kayciekaycie Posts: 2
    We have a 2002 VW Passat. It has the 1.8T engine and a manual 5-speed transmission. It has about 85,000 miles on it and has been a really great car for us. We have started having a problem when turning right. The display says "STOP Brake Fault" and a warning tone sounds. It goes off after a few seconds.

    The only other problem we have had with it is the left cv axle, which has been replaced. The right cv axle has just started making some popping noises and probably will need to be repaired or replaced.

    Has any one else had this happen to them? Thanks for any information.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I suggest that you check the level of brake fluid in the reservoir, I suspect it is low (I also suspect that it is low because you're probably due for front brakes).

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • I have a 2003 1.5T Passat with the same break fault error. On my car, it doesn't matter if you are turning or not and doesn't matter which direction you turn if you do. I took it into the dealership and they did a complete brake inspection and couldn't find anything wrong. It's still doing it and I'm becoming a little nervous about even driving the car. I don't think the fluid level is low or the dealership would have discovered that. I'm wondering if the fluid is being affected by the below freezing temperatures we've been having though.
  • sonciosoncio Posts: 1
    I own a 1999 passat 4cil. turbo I had it checked with my mechanic because the abs/brake light were flashing he used a computer and it turnes out that it´s the ABS control module but I was told that it´s not the main abs module under the hood that its one that is somewhere under the dash does anyone know where abouts this module can be found before they destroy my dash and that way they can go directly to where its at and if its in a particular color or any signs of how it looks like.Any help will be highly appreciated.thanks to all.
    soncio
  • altair4altair4 Posts: 1,469
    You didn't mention if the rotors were changed out when you had the brake work done. To me, it sure sounds like the rotors are warped.
  • Could you please send me the address for the rebuilt ABS control module. Thank you.
  • kayciekaycie Posts: 2
    I thought I'd let you know that my husband added brake fluid (just a bit since the level didn't seem low) and the problem stopped. You might try it.
  • lkumarlkumar Posts: 1
    Hi,
    My VW 2000 passat 2.8 v6 has brakes and abs light on after dealer replaced both rotors and rear brakes pads , , Dealer asking me $1500 to replace abs module, I dont know what are my options, Is it safe to drive the car, is this caused after dealer replaced my brakes.
    Thanks for your help
  • I am sorry I didn't notice this post sooner. I just joined this forum on the 25th of January.

    2.5 years ago I had this company rebuild my 2001 Passat ABS controller
    http://www.autoecu.com/index.php
    At that time it cost me $250, and it is still working great! They provide a 3 year warrantee.

    I also had them do my Volvo S80 ABS controller more recently at the same price.

    Jim
    :shades:
  • I don't know why replacing the brakes in the rear would cause the ABS light to go on. You don't say how many miles on the car. It is possible that it was ready to go anyway.

    Even if the ABS controller is not working, the brakes will still work. The ABS controller pulses the brakes if the wheel slips, if it is not working the brakes do not pulse and the wheels can lock up in slippery conditions and reduce directional control.

    Anyway, if you decide to replace the ABS controller, don't pay $1500. See my post #36 in this topic, in response to another ABS post late in december.

    Jim
    :shades:
  • I own a 2000 passat 4cyl./turbo approaching 100,000 miles of use. I took it to a mechanic because the abs/stop/brake problem/triangle warning lights were all coming on soon after first driving it. The mechanic stated that "yes" the computer showed that all of those lights were coming on. But he fully checked the brake system and the brakes were safe. He assured me that I could even make the 1000 mile trip I was planning. He charged me $80something for this and said I should bring it back after the trip.

    I thought that his saying the brakes were good meant the lights had malfunctioned and he had reset the system so that would not occur again. It happened again though. I called him and he seemed surprised the lights were still coming on.

    When he next worked on the car he replaced all 4 brake pads and said that would fix the problem. Afterward, he said that my back brakes were 80-90% worn even though he had passed me for a state inspection just a few months before and there was no mention of a pad problem then or when I first came there to have the brake warning lights addressed. I bought the pads myself but he charged about $175 labor. Again, I drove the car home nearby afterward but the next day the warning lights came on again. The mechanic continued to complain that VW's are difficult to figure out and maybe I should take it to a VW dealer. I did and the dealer remarked that my mechanic must not have the required diagnostic equipment as he should have known from the start, that I needed a new ABS control module. Is this true?

    I read here about how to address the ABS module and I guess I will get mine rebuilt. The mechanic wants to charge me $150 labor to put it in. Of course the VW dealer will only put in a new one costing $575 and charge $250 labor.

    Any advice? Thanks, Mr. Gullible
  • I did my own ABS controller on my 2001 Passat but it was quite a chore. One or two of the bolts holding the controller on were very difficult to get at. I think $150 is a good price for labor. Is the $150 labor charge for both removal of the original one and replacing the rebuilt one?

    FWIW, my Passat could be driven without the control module, I covered the exposed part with a zip-lock bag.

    The VW garage should do as you ask but if they won't they should not get the business. IMHO

    I have been very happy with my rebuilt ABS controller from Auto and Truck Electronics. You got the link I posted I hope.

    Jim
  • keorcuttkeorcutt Posts: 2
    I have a 2003 Passat and had the brakes completely redone at a VW dealership at 43,000 miles and just took the car back to the same dealership at 67,000 and they informed me that the rear brake pads have about 2 mm of pad left and I should have them redone again. Is this normal wear, because it seems too soon to have them redone again. Thanks.
  • altair4altair4 Posts: 1,469
    Could be normal, with OEM pads.

    Some questions:
    1) Was the brake work at 43K the first replacement pads on the car?
    2) Has your driving habits, location, commute changed?

    The rear pads have been a weak link in the brake system on these cars. For some drivers under some circumstances, they wear out about twice as fast as the front pads.

    Under a mostly urban driving cycle, in a hilly area, I got about 23,000 miles out of my OEM rear pads. I replaced them with PBR Deluxe pads and have about 28K on them, and they still look pretty meaty. I'm guessing they'll go about 40K. I changed out the front pads at about 47,000 miles - they could have gone farther, but I was getting a funky wear pattern that wouldn't pass state inspection.
  • keorcuttkeorcutt Posts: 2
    I am pretty sure that the brakes were first done at 43K, I got them done shortly after buying the car myself. My driving habits really haven't changed I drive side streets to and from work about 12 miles a day and I'm really not an aggressive driver and I try to brake softly. Also,I live in the Denver area there really aren't many hills.

    Thank you for your advise, I don't think I am going to take it back to a dealership but I will definitely check out the deluxe pads.
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