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2008 Ford Escape

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  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Its tried and true. Parts are plentiful. Everyone knows how to work on that engine.

    The Engine can trace back to the Duratec 2.5L introduced for the 1994 European Ford Mondeo. This engine was named a Wards Automotive 10Best 4 times.

    The bored out 3.0 version was introduced in 1996 and different version offered on everything for the Taurus to the Jag X-type to Noble M400 Brit supercar.

    The trans. is the Ford CD4E transmission which was introduced for the 4 cylinder 1994 Mazda 626. Ford upgraded the design in 1996 and 1998. Other than problems with the initial few model years, the Trans seems to be problem free.

    Tow package is recommended for the additional trans oil cooler.

    Mark.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    if the towing package includes a transmission cooler, it's worth the money.
    i read a rumor of a 'performance improved' 30dt being introduced before the 6 speed. heard anything about that?
    btw, we have an '04 escape limited, so i am familiar with the current drivetrain.
  • jski1jski1 Posts: 5
    I've been intensively shopping for an SUV and the Escape is on my short list. A few things I'd like to note after reading some previous emails:

    There is no "locking" feature for AWD. It's electronic. Outlander allows you to be only in 2WD, or 2WD with the auto feature, or AWD locked in. The Santa Fe AWD is electronic but you can over-ride it and lock it as well. The Escape cannot be locked (to the best of my knowledge).

    The rear drum brakes of the Escape bother me. I have a 97 Explore with 4 wheel disc and to go back to drum.....CRAZY. I do most of my repairs and replacing disk breaks can be done with your eyes closed. Drum are not so easy and more time consuming.

    The Escape has a nice quiet interior and comfortable ride but power is not up to par nor is breaking.

    With all that said, I very well may go with the Escape even though I am still looking at the Santa Fe and Outlander (may look at the VUE as well). I just wanted to pass that along. Oh-the "08" Hybrid does have rear disk but no electronic stabilization like the non-Hybrids have standard? Another bad call. I'd love to wait a few more years for the Escape to catch up but my Explorer at 170K needs work and I don't want to put any $$$ in it at this point.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    "There is no "locking" feature for AWD. It's electronic. Outlander allows you to be only in 2WD, or 2WD with the auto feature, or AWD locked in. The Santa Fe AWD is electronic but you can over-ride it and lock it as well. The Escape cannot be locked (to the best of my knowledge)."

    As I stated previously, the Escape does not have a locked in switch because the system does not need one. The Santa Fe and Outlander do not use the fast acting electronic clutch that the Escape uses. The Escape can engage AWD within the blink of an eye. Quicker than you could reach over to flip a switch.

    "The rear drum brakes of the Escape bother me. I have a 97 Explore with 4 wheel disc and to go back to drum.....CRAZY. I do most of my repairs and replacing disk breaks can be done with your eyes closed. Drum are not so easy and more time consuming."

    Funny, most shops charge LESS for drum brake service because the can be serviced faster. Perhaps you missed your true calling as a brake tech. Notwithstanding same, Ford claims these drums are capable of the the same performance as the previous discs.

    Funny how we easily accept that today's 4 cylinder engine can out perform a typical 6 cylinder of the 1990s and the typical 8 cylinder of the 1980s; yet, we question the ability of anyone to improve on the drum brake?

    "The Escape has a nice quiet interior and comfortable ride but power is not up to par nor is breaking."

    I would think that BREAKING less than the competition would be a good thing. As for braking, are you assuming Escape does not brake as well as the competition or is there a comparison test you can point us to.

    Mark.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,971
    Drum are not so easy and more time consuming.

    Yeah, but on my minivan I'm on my 3rd set of front pads and rotors, but still have the original rear brakes at 117,000 miles. My Outback has rear discs and they have a parking brake drum in the rear discs - not sure how much fun that's going to be to tackle.

    Rear discs is almost more of a deal killer for me than rear drums would be. ;)

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  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    I just discovered that the base Mariner can only be had with a manual driver's seat. a >$25,000 vehicle with a manual drivers seat! Ford is so screwed up sometimes. Is anyone there talking to anyone else? Do the product planers EVER GET OUT OF THE "GLASS HOUSE".

    $19,995 Fusion SE has a power driver's seat. Why on earth would someone pay $25,000+ for a vehicle without a power drivers seat? WHY ESPECIALLY when it is still standard on the Escape XLT?

    Sometimes I almost think Ford deserves to go bankrupt.

    Mark.
  • jski1jski1 Posts: 5
    Hey Mark (mschmal) sounds like I stuck a cord in you? And thanks for the spelling correction. I didn't know this was an english class. I bet you gave yourself a pat on the back for that one? Yeah? Good, you deserve it. Now, do you own any tools? Craftsman sells great starter kits. Go out and buy a set, change your rear brake shoes, and let me know how it went. Auto shops charge more for front disk because typically they turn the rotors at the same time. Turning a drum is much quicker and involves less labor than turning rotors. When I commented on brake shoe replacement it was just that. Pads are easier than shoes-try it sometime then let's hear real facts. Another thing-I didn't say the Ford Escape had poor BRAKING (hey I got the spelling right that time) because of the drums-I simply said it was not up to par in comparison to others I test drove.

    And hey how fast is the "blink of an eye"? Pretty fast eh? Maybe I should go to my dealer tomorrow and say I hear that Escape switches into AWD faster than the blink of an eye-I'll take one and if it's any slower I want my money back.

    Mark-this is a FORUM not an exam or an article in a magazine. So what if my spelling isn't perfect? And so what if what I say goes against what Ford claims? Buying a car isn't about what a manufacture claims-it's about real people, asking real questions and finding out for themselves.

    Don't ruin a good thing-keep your anger to yourself or find another Forum to scrutinize and spell check.

    How many words can you find misspelled in this post?

    Waaaaaaaaa!
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    How many words can you find misspelled in this post?

    I suggest we drop this line or someone will be tempted to start grammar checks. At least you guys use punctuation and don't type in ALL CAPS! ;)

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • rcinmdrcinmd Posts: 139
    Regarding the Intelligent AWD system of the Escape/Mariner/Tribute.....

    In a word, it is fantastic, transparent, seamless, etc. etc. Okay, more than one word.

    I recently sold my 05 Tribute i, AWD, 5 speed manual trans. I'm that way....loved it, but wanted to try a Prius. I figured I'd go for an 08 this coming winter, but have now found that I cannot get the 5 speed manual with the AWD now. Such a shame, since it was the best balanced configuration. Maybe the front wheel drive with traction control will be okay. I'll give one a try when the time comes.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 549
    The 2008 model does have some major items not standard on the 2007. Side curtain air bags, stability control, better heating and a/c with recirculate button. Minor items--outside temp. gauge and compass. However, there are a few things missing--rear disc brakes and grab handles. I use the grab handles all the time for cleaning the windshield.

    Not sure if the 08 has perforated leather like the 07. Perforated leather is a lot cooler in the summer. Probably left out the grab handles due to the curtain air bags, but, other SUVs have both.

    Had our 07 in for oil and filter. Thought I would do a quick comparison.
  • rambo5rambo5 Posts: 37
    I just can't understand how the 2008 can drop a star on the NHTSA front driver crash rating and gain a star on the front passenger when compared to the 2007 model. Frankly, I was ready to pull the trigger on this vehicle but I will not settle for a three star crash rating. It's rock bottom for the class. Ford, I'm trying to be a fan boy...throw me a bone.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    i went to the nhtsa site. you are right about the stars. it makes no sense,though. too bad there are no details about the vehicle specific tests.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    The Escape was never a very good performer in the crash tests.

    The basic unibody structure of this car goes back to 1994 Mazda 626. Before IIHS testing and before the tougher fed test.

    In my mind though the IIHS test with more closly simulates a real world crash is a better indicater than the Feds.

    Mark.
  • aenlooaenloo Posts: 1
    Hello,

    I recently purchased a 2008 Escape Limited. No complaints really (coming from a 1999 Explorer EB) minus this strange item; there is a white hose which suddenly came dangling loose near the gas pedal. Needless to say while driving this was uhhh... panic inducing. ("What is that thing catching on my foot!?!") It looks like it's for air perhaps? I see a hole to the right of the gas pedal, in the console, that seems the likely place the hose was originally connected. Ideas? Yes I'd like to avoid having to make a full-on service appointment if it's a simple fix. ;-)

    Thanks!
    J.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 549
    I would have it looked at by the dealer. Hope it in not the air conditioning drain hose or you will have water on the floor.
  • Are you kidding me?

    OMG Ford is really hurting :(
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    What about GM using rear drum brakes on the Silverado?

    In the past drum brakes faded because the organic brake shoe decomposed under heat creating a gas that came between the shoe and the drum causing fade.

    If Ford can develope a shoe that does not decompose and does not fade, then what is the difference. Its called progress.

    The benefit to you is that your brake job costs less.

    Mark.
  • That sucks too, but im sure that silverado has drums only on some models, and you can upgrade.

    I guess we are lucky to get 4 doors on this new escape. But if one of the doors was just a grocery bag you would say "hey, at least it saves weight and fuel economy, and a lighter car makes it faster!"

    I do not live in a turd world country. I should not have rear-drums.
  • minschy25minschy25 Posts: 1
    Hi all

    I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice. I just leased a 2008 XLT 4WD Ford Escape on Sat. May 5. I was just admiring it and realized that the drivers side wheel well looks to be rusted. I am going to take it back to the dealership tonight, but before I did so I wanted to know if the dealership might refuse to take care of it since all of the papers for the lease were signed?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    can you be more specific about it? the wheel well liner is mostly plastic.
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