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Ford Explorer Maintenance and Repair

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,830
  • hello there all,

    the rear hatch window has opened up twice now during the last month while i was driving. i drive a 2004 explorer xlt with 23,000 miles that i bought used 2 months ago with 21,000 on it so i have no idea if this has happened before. has anyone run into this sort of problem? i know i didn't hit the button on the keychain. thanks for any and all information. already had it in to fix the solenoid problem. amazing that it was ford certified and the "bucking" going in reverse was still present....i hope i start getting lucky so i can refer these vehicles to friends in the future. love the ride, features(290 watt stereo among others)and look otherwise. wayne
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    Bought my ball joints on Wednesday, from Advance. $32.88 each for the lowers, $92.88 for one upper, $108.88 for the other upper, maxing out the credit card with a grand total of $283 with tax. Got the TRW with lifetime warranty. Having them put in this coming Wednesday or Thursday. The guy estimated $100 labor, but we'll wait and see. I'll still have to have it aligned after the fact.
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    Do your new ball joints have the grease zerts on them? If so, no more ball joint worries! Since you are having all 4 replaced, you are right about the alignment. I hope that once this is done, you can finally enjoy your truck for the first time in a while. Take Care
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    I took one of the lowers out of the box, didn't see a grease fitting on it. As long as it lasts another 50k I'll be okay, then it can be somebody else's problem.

     

    I just had Terry in "Real World Trade Values" do an estimate on mine, and he said high $4s low low $5s, and I still owe $7600 on it. If thats the case, I'll be holding onto her longer than I thought. I want to keep it at least til it hits 67k, or June of '06, when the crummy warranty expires. I'm really getting keen on those '01 Pathfinders though...
  • wijocowijoco Posts: 462
    I personally would't have an alignment done right after the joint install. Reason being the new joints will set the angles back to where they were at the factory and you're not replacing steering parts. Just check the treadwear on the fronts in 6 months for cupping or feathering, I bet you'll be OK. Unless you've had a bunch of alignments done with the bad suspension parts, in which case it will be out of spec with the new ones. Just trying to save you $80.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I agree with wijoco - but then again, I think you've wasted your money anyway...
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    Bought my ball joints on Wednesday, from Advance. $32.88 each for the lowers, $92.88 for one upper, $108.88 for the other upper, maxing out the credit card with a grand total of $283 with tax. Got the TRW with lifetime warranty. Having them put in this coming Wednesday or Thursday. The guy estimated $100 labor, but we'll wait and see. I'll still have to have it aligned after the fact.

     

    Good luck with the install. Keep us updated on the results!
  • I've done this job myself on my 97. As cheap as I am, I would have considered having someone else do it for $100. A5 150K, had very bad inside tire wear. Passenger side was noisy at low speed, but absolutely couldn't feel any play when jacked up. Ended up replacing both hubs, lower ball joints and tie rod ends. Did my own home toe in alignment (this was ok prior to work). 20K later the tire wear is still even without professional alignment. It may be an optical illusion, but the tires still look like they bow out like crazy. Inclinometer and wear say no. I agree that an alignment may not be necessary.
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    If you are replacing ONLY the lower ball joints, then everything does go back to the factory settings. If you are also replacing the uppers, then they may need adjustment. If you look on the passenger side upper A arm, you can see the mechanism for adjustment.

     

    Re:idntnvu

     

    The replacemnet ball joints on my wife's truck are sealed, but I asked the 2 service people if they have seen people come in for second replacements. Both said no, the part has been redesigned with a new part number. We'll see I guess....
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    just curious, why do you think idntnvu is wasting his money replacing the ball joints?
  • I have a 2004 Explorer (Eddie Bauer) - have filed a civil suit against Ford for multiple failures (Lemon Law). Transmission, Rear end and 4WD problems...

     

    One issue that baffles me - when going down the highway at normal speeds 40 to 60 mph - the vehicle stays straight on the road. Upon acceleration - the vehicle does a hard veer to the left. Been to the Dealer 3 times, and they have checked with the Ford Engineers, and they say this is "normal torque steer". Does anyone have an opinion if this is right? In all my years of driving - I've never known a car to do this?
  • Where do you think the waste was, buying the ball joints, or buying the truck?

    I think he paid a little too much for the upper ball joints, but the $100 labor is excellent if that is for replacing all 4 of them. It sounds like the price is right, and the peace of mind will be priceless!
  • wijocowijoco Posts: 462
    It's more common on front drive cars. Is your Explorer AWD or 4WD? Does this occur with the front drive engaged?
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    Yes nvbanker, I'm curious on that myself ;)

    I'm wondering if maybe you're saying I wasted my money on the truck in the first place.

     

    I was told that both lowers NEED to be replaced, and one of the uppers, so they said why not replace both of them while they were at it. The ones I got are TRW from Advance, with a lifetime warranty. So I seriously doubt I'll have ball joint problems again.

     

    I was told that my front end was out of alignment now because of the bad joints, and would require at least half a shim to get it back in line, possibly a whole shim. Do you think I still need it?
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    This is what the guy quoted me, and I have to say I admire you for doing it yourself. I wish I could have, but I'm just not that mechanically inclined. Whenever myself, my dad, or even my grandpa (it's genetic) attempt to tackle a big job like that, it ends up taking 3 times as long because a bunch of other crap goes wrong in the process. I just leave it to the pros.

     

    As for paying too much for the parts, I had heard the TRW front end stuff was really good, that coming from my boss at the bus garage, who's had plenty of experience in this kind of thing. I also wanted something with a lifetime warranty, and Advance is about the only place that offers that. It's not too late to take them back, haven't had it done yet. What would you guys have done different?
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    "What would you guys have done different?"

     

    Nothing, but I would go for the allignment, couldn't hurt:)
  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    This is what the guy quoted me, and I have to say I admire you for doing it yourself. I wish I could have, but I'm just not that mechanically inclined. Whenever myself, my dad, or even my grandpa (it's genetic) attempt to tackle a big job like that, it ends up taking 3 times as long because a bunch of other crap goes wrong in the process. I just leave it to the pros.

     

    I have always drawn the line at suspension and exhaust systems. Mainly because I never had the correct tools to do the job right. All other aspects of cars I have no problem with.

     

    I think you got a great price for what you are having done.

     

    BTW....nvbanker, from what I recall, thought you were crazy for buying the vehicle.

     

    We have all made mistakes...it's what we learn from those mistakes that makes us stupid or not.

    :-)
  • Yup, you guys nailed it- just got a call from my service advisor; they replaced one insulator bushing, fixing the squeaking. Only took them about an hour and a half, they must keep those parts in stock as well. I'm interested to see how much they would have charged for one out of warranty.

     

    Unfortunately she said they could not duplicate the distortion noise I am getting from some of my speakers (sounds like I blew out one or two of them, lol). But speakers are cheap, right? Maybe I should just throw some nice aftermarket ones in there. Experiences or suggestions?
  • Maybe he said $100 per side or is this a good friend that needs money too. This is a job where you have to be comfortable with beating on things. I bought a ball joint press for $30 and still had to make some adaptors to get it off. Mine is 4WD and you need to get creative if you don't take the half shafts out, like having two jacks. Definitely one of the harder jobs to do and more than standard tools are needed.
  • wijocowijoco Posts: 462
    If the guy actually working on the truck says it needs alignment, then it does. We're just guessing here, but he actually sees and touches it.

    As far as TRW parts, they're good for the price. I'm pretty sure they used to be an OEM supplier for Ford but were dropped in the early 90s. That said, I use them too because I'm cheap.
  • "Time is Limited - Program Ends March 31, 2005 Regardless of mileage. 2004 and 2005 Explorer equipped with 5R55S, 5R55E, or 5R44E transmissions."

    "Your vehicle was filled at the assembly plant with tranny fluid, that may cause delayed/harsh reverse engagements etc etc. They are going to FOC install a bottle of 5R55S/E & 5R44E additive.

    Customer satisfaction program, 04B22."

    I recently had the solenoid replaced deal. Not sure how this effects me. I have call into the dealer.

    reg.

     
  • idntnvuidntnvu Posts: 251
    Actually, the guy quoted me $50 per side, so $100 total. Taking it tomorrow to drop it off. I'll be drivin a Toyota til it's fixed :).
  • Thanks for your reply! My truck has the Auto 4WD, but then has the buttons to manually engage high/low as well.

     

    In your opinion a hard pull to the left is "normal", and this would also be considered safe. The Dealer said I just need to be sure to "tightly hold on to the steering wheel".
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,830
    just a thought, try going into 4 high and accelerating(not on a dry road). maybe one of the axles is engaging.

    i don't think the pull is normal. it is the front that is pulling left, not the back?
  • I'm getting a bit discouraged and have lost alot of my enthusiasm with my 04 Mountie.

     

    I also received the letter from Ford about the tranny fluid. There was an article posted in the money and investing section on excite.com's website that addressed this more than 6 weeks prior. It was because of this article that I called my Mercury Dealership to schedule an appointment because I indeed had the problem of the harsh reverse engagements. Service department told me it was a solenoid problem. They never mentioned anything about the fluid. Brought it in Saturday after Thanksgiving and they replaced the solenoid. Guess what? Problem reared it's ugly head again. Brought it in 12/27/04 and I was told the replacement solenoid that was put in was defective. They replaced it again. It is now 2 plus weeks since and I am still experiencing this problem. Looks like I will have to arrange a third visit for the same problem.

     

    For some reason, I cannot get this to hyperlink, but this is the link to the excite.com article.

     

    http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_ge.jsp?news_id=cmt-327w6868&a- mp;feed=cmt&date=20041122
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Yes, there are a few "ongoing issues" with the Explorer and Mountie. Make sure you buy an exteneded warranty for the vehicle. You can save a lot of money on the web on these. I bought mine form Lombard Ford over the net!

    Good luck!
  • I had the exact same issues with my 2004 Explorer purchased in Dec 03. Repeated trips to dealership - and still doing same thing with transmission hesitation/slipping. I have hired an attorney as in my State this vehicle qualifies as a "lemon". The Manufacturer has 3 reapir attempts to remedy - before it is called a "lemon". I gave Ford 4+++ attempts...

     

    Check your States lemon laws...

     

    Ford should be ashamed of this product!
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    There is the issue that I advised not to buy this particular truck. But mainly, I don't think ball joints are that bad, I think this truck has bad abuse history.
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