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Toyota Highlander

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  • billp8billp8 Posts: 56
    I've had my Highlander a little over 1 week (V6. FWD, base model). I like it very much. It came down to a choice between the H/L, Liberty, and Escape. For myself, I liked the Escape's exterior, and the Liberty's front seats and controls. Overall, however, the H/L was my clear favorite. Likes: engine/transmission, ride, seat comfort, rear-seat roominess, rear hatch (no external spare tire). And, it's a Toyota! Also, I really like the color (bluestone). Gripes are minor: couldn't get curtain air bags on base model; armrests get in the way when buckling your seat belt; prop rod for the hood looks/feels cheap; and (as far as I know) you have to get the JBL to get a 6-disc player. I also would have liked illuminated vanity mirrors and factory security alarm, but that required a sunroof! Overall, however, I am pleased with my purchase. This is my first Toyota (having owned 5 Honda products over the years). I look forward to my first road trip!
  • cmw829cmw829 Posts: 19
    I agree with you. We searched hard for a 2006 HL with side curtain airbags. Of course, none of the dealers fessed up that we needed to get the 6 cyl AWD with the 3rd seat, or that the airbags were part of the $2585 MSRP option combo. Yes, we spent far more than we wanted and got far more car than we needed. But we have the airbags. {{sigh}}

    My husband voiced his objection to the Toyota optioning approach at every opportunity.
  • cmw829cmw829 Posts: 19
    Several phone calls after I posted this, I did get a final answer. Disappointing from a price perspective, but the minimum vehicle on which they are offered is the AWD 6 cyl with the 3rd row seat. They are included in the $2585 MSRP option package offered on that vehicle.

    It's unfortunate that it was so hard to get that info. Thanks for the replies.
  • master1master1 Posts: 340
    I hope you enjoy your Highlander! It'll be great! I have the 2004 base V-6 front wheel drive. I have a big suggestion for you - do you have the garbuage Bridgestone Dueler tires? Those tires are TERRIBLE, in snow and rain. I suggest considering Yokohama Geolander tires. I put them on my car, and it feels like I put new shocks. And it handles great in snow.

    How were your previous Honda's? Reliable? Unreliable?
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  • gpoltgpolt Posts: 113
    Out of curiosity - what is the average highway mpg you get with the your FWD V6 HL? Thanks
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Check out Toyota Highlander: MPG - Real World Numbers for more mileage reports.

    tidester, host
  • billp8billp8 Posts: 56
    My HL has Toyo tires--the model is call Trans-something or other.

    As for the Honda products:

    1988 Accord LX sedan--had it for two years and 39,000 miles. Only problem (other than dirt in window regulator and erratic power door locks) was a clutch replacement. As it started slipping at 9000 miles, dealer replaced it gratis and sent the bad one off to Japan.

    1990 Legend--what a car! I kept it for 5 years and 65,000 miles. Quite a machine in its day. It had a nice blend of luxury and sportiness that I think Acura would do well to replicate today. Other than a couple of bulbs burning out and a door striker adjustment, I replaced the battery (less than 3 years) and the muffler (less than 4 years).

    1993 Accord 10th Anniversary Sedan--only kept for 2 years, nothing replaced in that time.

    1998 Accord LX V6 sedan--other than a couple of minor squeaks and rattles (this was the first year of this design) nothing serious.

    As you can see, the Hondas held up well. One thing I remember is that battery and muffler life seemed low to me, whether the car was driven mainly locally, or on long trips. My favorite was the 1990 Legend. Even friends of mine who are German car fanatics were impressed with that car.

    Currently, I have a 2000 Mercedes C-class and the Highlander. I'm sure I'll buy another Honda. I look forward to the next Accord a little over a year from now.
  • master1master1 Posts: 340
    Enjoy your Highlander! The Pilot is my only Honda I ever owned. Not too happy with it because of the steering wheel vibrations. It's a huge flaw in the car. It's not from the tires, it's in the body.

    But anyway, the Highlander has been great. It's not too fun to drive, like most toyota's, but it always starts and never has problems! :)

    To answer the previous post, my gas mileage is:

    16 city
    22 highway

    Combined I usually get 20.

    Since your thinking about the Highlander, I would strongly suggest waiting for the new Highlander. This one is out-dated for today's time. Do not purchase the Camry because of transmission problems that still hasn't been fixed.
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  • From www.theautochannel.com

    For 2007, the Highlander mid-size SUV will add safety enhancements and significant additional value. All Highlander gas models will receive driver and front passenger seat-mounted side airbags and front and second row side curtain airbags with roll-over sensor as standard equipment. In addition, the 2007, Highlander offers new and value oriented Extra Value Packages (EVPs). The base MSRP for conventional Highlander models range from $24,880 for the 2WD four-cylinder model to $32,210 for the 4WD Limited V6 model. Total Highlander average MSRP increase is $350 or 1.3 percent.

    Highlander Hybrid will offer two-row models for both base and Limited grades for 2007. The base MSRP ranges from $32,490 for the 2WD base two-row model to $36,550 for the 4WD Limited three-row model. For 2007, highlander Hybrid also offers new and value oriented EVPs. Full federal hybrid tax credit will be available for purchases completed through September 2006. The approved credit amount for Highlander Hybrid is $2,600

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  • Toyota dealership said I will need new tires soon with tread at 3/32 of an inch. Only have 25,000 on EOM Toyos on 2004 HL. From previous messages, three tires are mentioned the most. Priced the tires at Discount Tires website, not including mounting. Would appreciate any comments on these tires. Thanks.

    Goodyear Fortera Triple Thread - $167 each
    Yokohama Geolander HR - $105 each
    Michelin Cross Terrains, $156, LTX MS - $136

    On my Chevrolet, I have Goodyear Eagles which have warn great. Is is worth extra for the Goodyear.
  • gasman1gasman1 Posts: 321
    Tirerack has the Goodyear Triples Tread for $133. There's also a $40 rebate when buying 4 Goodyear tires. I have 7,500 on my Triple Treads and they are a SUPERB tire.

    Never had the Yokohama tires, but many swear buy them. I did check them out and the sidewall is much thinner than the Triple Tread sidewall. They appear to be a cheaper tire, but better then the JUNK Toyo OEM tires.

    If you need new tires for a trade-in, get the cheapest. If you plan to keep the vehilce for a few years, get the best. IMHO, the Triple Treads are the ebst.

    Had the Michelin X Terrain on a previous HL and a Tundra. I wouldn't buy them again as they got noisey after about 20K miles and did poorly in rain. My son had the LTX MS on his Ranger and I thought they rode better than the XTerrain.
  • shortonshorton Posts: 10
    Hi guys:

    Can someone tell me what exists (or doesnt) ona HL w/o the 3rd row seat? I have a 02 without it and the spare is where it would be. I presume the spare is also underneath now on the new models, so what's where the seat would have been? A storage compartment?

    Thanks,
    Scott
  • typesixtypesix Posts: 314
    For 2004 and up models the body rear end was reworked to accomodate the 3rd row seat and spare is now mounted outside and underneath. The gas tank size was also reduced to 19.1 gallons.For 2004+ models w/o 3rd row seats there is a small storage space under the main trunk panel.
  • typesix: Thanks for the info. I don't remember what the tank capacity is on my 02 model. It would have you believe it's running dry when it's got 18 missing from tank. How much did they reduce it?
  • typesixtypesix Posts: 314
    I think pre-3004 models had a 20 gal tank.
  • I have a 2004 Highlander with 40,000 kms. On Tuesday night the check engine, VSC, and Trak Off warning lights came on. They stayed on until Thursday night when upon start-up they were all off and have remained off.

    I made an appointment with Toyota when the lights came on but it will be a week before they can get me in. They said I could continue to drive in the meantime - no worries. When I called to tell them the warning lights went off, they said that this was normal, but the system still should be checked.

    Anyone else with this situation or what happened with your 2001?
  • master1master1 Posts: 340
    The lights came on while you were driving, or when you put the key on the "ON" position? They are supposed to flash on the "ON" position. I have a 2004 too. Once a long time ago the same thing happened. I turned the engine off, then back on and it went away. Sometimes the car's computer (ECU?) goes a little crazy. Haha
  • Have had my V6 03 HL for 3.5 years and have a whopping 25,000 miles on the meter. Have had no problems so far and the Goodyear Integreties still look new. Still rides like the day I bought it. No rattles and smooth as silk. Glad I bought it.
  • Whats involved in adding a 3rd row seat to my 05 Highlander base model? I saw a 3rd seat w/ seatbelts a while back on e-bay for around $500. I don't really care but wife thinks she wants one.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    You will have to look very carefully at yours and one with a 3rd row seat and see if there's anything missing other than the seat. My guess is that there may be some attachment hardware that might not be part of the seat plus the seat belts and seat belts attachment points.
  • Not as easy as one thinks. The OEM seatbelts come from the rear pillars, adding these would involve trim pieces and possibly more that I am not aware of. I'm not sure if the 2nd row seats on the base model move fore and aft. If they don't, you will have a leg room issue. Also the 2nd row seat articulates to allow access to the third row.
    Wants and needs are different things. If she needs the third row, I say trade in the 05.
  • Thanks guys. I guess the 3rd seat is off the table for now.
  • typesixtypesix Posts: 314
    I also have a base Highlander w/o the 3rd row seat and have looked at versions that do have the 3rd seat. The second row seats do move foward in the base models. The versions that do have the 3rd row have an extra lever on the 2nd seat that duplicates the folding of the seat. The 3rd row seat uses the hidden storage area foward of the spare tire tool compartment on the base models. I believe that the entire 3rd row seat including the track and seatbelt hardware and plastic trim pieces must be removed in order to be able to install it into a base model. The base model appears to have an elevated metal base that takes up space if the 3rd seat is not used and may be where 3rd row occupant legs would go and this would be removed.I wanted the 3rd row but Toyota wouldn't sell 3rd row with 4 cyl base version in my zip code.Stupid!
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    Looks like a place for a cat to nap.
  • I'd like to see a shot from teh rear with it up/down. Highlander's aren't on their website though.
  • This is a new product for them. I was told it should be featured on their site in the next week or two. You can still call and place an order though. I'll try to remember to take a pic from the rear. Out of curiousity why that angle??
  • master1master1 Posts: 340
    What do you need a huge arm rest for?
  • Bottom line is comfort, if you own or have driven a Highlander I'm surprised you wouldn't agree. I purchased the vehicle for my wife but was so uncomfortable in it we'd take my car. When I did drive the Highlander before, rather than trying to balance my arm on the tiny driver's side armrest I'd rest it on the passenger side. I'm sure other HL owners understand exactly what I'm talking about. Plus I'm 6'6, close to 300 so I'm a pretty big guy, so maybe the size of the OE armrest isn't for me but in fact a tiny 5'5 Japanese guy? The HL is a JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) vehicle so my theory might actually be accurate. Jon.
  • Yes the SUV is Called the Toyota FJ CRUISER, it doesnt carry the third row seat in it, its more for off roading and 4x4. very nice. and for an SUV that runs between 27 to 30000 that is nice. :)
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