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Toyota Highlander

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  • jim70jim70 Posts: 27
    Agreed petl. My wife and I test drove the Honda Pilot and Toyota Highlander extensively before making our decision. In our opinion the Highlander is much more refined, with the smoothest and most quite ride, as well as a very smooth, peppy drivetrain. It is a personal decision however, others may prefer something else. I don't intend to knock the competition because the Pilot is an excellent vehicle as well. But as far as refinement, there is no contest in my opinion.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I'm sure I will. I have enough sophistication to appreciate refinement and value.
  • I think it is indeed generally acknowledged that the Highlander is one of the most refined SUVs on the road. Any review you read, regardless of what else they say, always comments on the refinement, smoothness and quietness of the Highlander. It is most often attributed to the fact that the Highlander and Lexus 330 share a lot of components.
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  • budhbudh Posts: 109
    Having brought my 2002 Toyota V6 AWD with 140,000 miles to my Toyota dealership to check out a simultaneous check engine light and vehicle stability control light, I learned that I would need an oxygen sensor replaced which would cost about $400.

    I passed on this repair - especially considering I'm looking at possibly not having this vehicle a year from now.

    The two diagnostic codes received from an OBDII scan tool were:

    P0125 (Insufficient Coolant Temperature For Closed Loop Fuel Control)

    and

    P0136 (Oxygen Sensor Circuit Malfunction - Bank #1 Sensor #2)

    Any ideas on what short and long term issues I might have not replacing this oxygen sensor?

    Bud H
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,936
    My guess (based on problems with an '89 DC I had) is lousy performance and lousy mpg. I recently read somewhere that bad 02 sensors can also result in a clogged catalytic converter after a while.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    The cost of a Bosch OEM replacment oxygen sensor at NAPA is less than $50.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    I had two O2 sensors replaced on a Ford Explorer a couple years ago and as I recall, it was less than $200. Find an independent shop that services Toyota and get another quote. Btw, my highway mileage went up 2 mpg with the new 02 sensors.
  • 02ramman02ramman Posts: 62
    I would change the coolant thermostat, it sounds like it is sticking open and the Engine is not getting up to the proper operating temp at all or is taking to long. It MIGHT have an effect on the 02 sensor, but with that many miles it is probably due for a change anyway.
  • silverltdsilverltd Posts: 18
    My husband and I each own a 4WD Highlander Limited---mine is a 2001 with 66,000 miles and his is a 2003 with 48,000 miles. Both are in great condition inside and out, and neither has had any mechanical problems (knock wood). I even had a "real" Highlander center console added to my 2001.

    Due to medical issues, my husband is no longer able to drive. I was thinking of trading in both Highlanders and getting one 2007 4WD Highlander Limited. I went to our dealer to discuss this possibility and he agreed that it could be done at minimal out-of-pocket cost to us.

    My rationalization is that we only need one SUV and I would like to start with a new SUV with no mileage; I don't want to have to buy a new car for many, many years.

    I would welcome any opinions on this. I love my 2001 Highlander and was wondering if there are any major changes (other than the so-called 3rd-row seating that I really don't want) that I should know about. Have there been any known maintenance problems with the 2007s?

    Again, any opinions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you!
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I think it would be more economical to just keep your preference of the two cars you own. You are not driving that much and who knows the future?
  • toyotagaltoyotagal Posts: 215
    I would tend to agree from a financial point of view. However, that said there is the problem of getting rid of one of the older vehicles.

    However, from something more than an economical point of view there comes a good feeling of owning a new vehicle that you can't put a dollar sign on. And if you are up in years, as I am, it may cross your mind that this "could" be your last vehicle.

    My opinion boils down to: if you can afford it without placing any financial hardship on yourself, go for it.

    Further, there will be no repair bills for more than 3 years. Also the new models are safer with more safety features.
  • rblelandrbleland Posts: 312
    Why an '07 model, why not get the new '08 HL as it should be available in the summer some time, and I don't hear any need to rush in your post?
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Whats your definition of "up in years." Your posts look mid 40's. :)
  • During the March snow storm, we found our 07 Highlander AWD unable to move forward or back in the 6 to 8" of heavy snow over a icy driveway which is flat. All we got from the Toyota Company call in rep. is that "this is not an off-road vehical and "that the saftey stability control system" is what was keeping them from being able to move back and forth enough to get the momentum needed to get out of the driveway. We were able to get out with our Honda CRV. The CRV did spin & dig down, but we were able to work back and forth enough to get running start on a short path and get out. The Highlander just kept braking and not allowing any exceleration and therefore no momentum to move. No difference with the ECT switch on or off. I saw several comments about a similar problem with the AWD HL in heavy mud. Why can't I manually disengage the Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) and Traction control (TRAC), which I believe kept the HL from moving?
  • jbolltjbollt Posts: 734
    Seems to me there IS a way. It may involve several steps, (like turning the key on and off while tapping the brake, or some such sequence) rather than a button to toggle on and off. I think I have read about it on either this forum or one of the other Toyota forums. Try doing a google search for disable VSC Toyota or similar.

    Edit: Found this from a google search: it's for the Rav 4, but may apply to the HL:

    1. Make sure the car is in Park and the parking brake is disengaged before you start the car.
    2. Start the engine.
    3. Engage the parking brake.
    4. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
    5. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
    6. Disengage the parking brake.
    7. Fully depress and hold down the brake pedal.
    8. Engage the parking brake, then disengage it (while holding down the brake pedal).
    9. Engage the parking brake, then disengage it (while holding down the brake pedal).
    10. Release the brake pedal.
    11. Engage the parking brake.
    12. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
    13. Fully depress the brake pedal and then release.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    I don't remember which model, most probably the 08 RX350, but it has a single button wherein one press disables the TC, Traction Control, and a second LONG depression disables the VSC.

    In the meantime if you disconnect the MAF/IAT sensor module while the engine is idling the engine will die, reconnect the module, restart the engine and for the next few drives cycles your will have a meaningless CEL but a "meanful" VSC/Trac "failure" indication.

    This entire Toyota/Lexus FWD based AWD product line, RX, HL, Sienna, is AWD for marketing purposes only. No real AWD capability on wintertime roadbed conditions, ice, packed snow, etc, certainly not on an incline.
  • silverltdsilverltd Posts: 18
    Thanks all, you all make good points.

    While this isn't a "rush," I think I can get a better deal on a 2007, particularly since the 2008 is going to be a new model.

    I think toyotagal hit the right button for me. First, I wouldn't even know how to go about selling one of the Highlanders. Well, I guess I could figure out how to do it, but I really don't want strangers coming to my house and test driving a vehicle, negotiating price, etc. The thought of that gives me a knot in my stomach because I would have to handle it on my own.

    Second, this could be my last new vehicle purchase. With my husband's illness and future prognosis, the last thing I want to do is have to worry about replacing a car. I know that both Highlanders have relatively low mileage, but with my luck lately, I'm afraid that I will sell one and in a year or so, the one I keep will start having problems. I guess having a brand new Highlander will give me some feeling of long-term security. And yes, that "new car feeling" will definitely be a pleasant diversion for me.

    Logically, selling one of the Highlanders, keeping the other one, and having the money from the sale makes the most sense. But if I can pull the trade-in off with minimal money out-of-pocket---and there are no known probems with the 2007---then my heart tells me to trade-in both cars and get a new one.

    Thank you all for your input, it really is helpful.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Can I help it? I am a financial person. You could have someone you know and trust family,CPA,attorney, take the car and sell it for you. You could offer to pay them maybe $500 to show it and sell it. You should discuss important decisions w/ people you trust,people who know you, prior to acting. Good luck.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,936
    I don't see anything wrong with letting the dealer take your trades for a new Highlander. You are almost certain to get more on a private party sale but it's a hassle. You could check with CarMax if there's one in your area - they buy cars and make it easy.

    You can run the numbers at Edmunds.com (Used Car Appraiser) and figure out what your trades are worth, and get a True Market Value number for the new Highlander and that'll keep you in the financial ballpark without getting hosed too badly.

    You can also compare real world pricing in the Toyota Highlander: Prices Paid & Buying Experience discussion.
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