Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!





Infiniti QX4

1457910106

Comments

  • I've done some research regarding the Infinity QX4 vs. the Pathfinder because I like the QX4 but need to justify the cost difference to myself and my wife. For comparison sake, I've configured the 2001 QX4 4WD against a Pathfinder LE 4WD so that they both have similar equipment as follows:

    Infinity QX4 4WD
    + J01 Sunroof
    + G02 Premium Package
    + S02 Sports Package
    + W17 Tow Package

    Pathfinder LE 4WD
    + X03 Leather
    + B10 Limited Slip Differential
    + P92 Tow Package
    +F92 Floor Mats

    By my calculations, after my best negotiated price on each vehicle, before TTL, the QX4 price is approx. $4100 greater than the Pathfinder LE price. So what do you get on the QX4 that isn't on the Pathfinder? As far as I can tell, the list looks like:
    - QX4 alternator @100Amp (vs,???)
    - QX4 axle ratio 4.36 (vs. 4.60)
    - 5 cup holders (vs. 4)
    - Power hatch release
    - Xenon headlights
    - -1 power outlets (2 on the QX4 vs. 3 on the Pathfinder)
    - 17 inch wheels (better road performance ? and additional ground clearance)
    - Intermittent rear window wiper
    - Heated rear seats
    - Full time 4WD (more sophisticated 4WD system)
    - More sophisticated styling - front end (grill, headlights, fog lights), trim
    - "Better" leather (??? At least, according to some)
    - "Better" paint (??? At least, according to some)
    - Better warrantees: +1yr/24k mi. basic; +1yr/10k mi. powertrain; +2yr corrosion; +4yr/unlimited mi. 24-hour Roadside Assistance
    - Loaner car during service
    - "Better" dealer service experience (??? No waiting behind the lady with the rusted out Sentra?)

    Is there anything I've missed here? Is it worth $4100? (Again, I like the QX4, so this isn't a negative criticism, just an honest attempt to evaluate the two. This forum will undoubtedly have some opinions.)

    There's no doubt you could do without some of the options I listed, but because selection of one option for one car included items not on the other, this is what it took to make them closely match in equipment and give a reasonably "fair" comparison.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    Drive both and find out how it feels like, only you can determine whether the extra $$$ is worth it. Both are great SUVs and you won't go wrong getting either one. BTW, don't forget to see Edmund's Midsize SUV Comparo.
  • eds1300eds1300 Posts: 71
    For bumpy ride, please check you tire pressure.
    My 01 QX4 2wd felt the same way for 3 or 4 days.
    The Michelin tire pressure was at 56 psi.
    I adjusted back down to 32 psi and the normal bumpiness is still their but it feels much better than the first 4 days of ownership. I have
    approximatly 1200 miles and I am very satisfied
    with this vehicle, especially from the powertrain, handling and the HID lights.
    The QX4 handles much better than my old 96 I30, the residual bounce from the soft Nissan suspension is not their.
    One negative aspect of the QX4 is the factory
    Bose sound system. I am getting very poor
    reception from all FM stations and my
    rear wind deflector makes whistling noise in
    highway speeds.
    I paid $34,100 for an 2wd with sunroof and
    rear wind deflector. Grubbs in Hurst have
    been advertising at $33,995 without rear
    wind deflector.
  • I just received a letter from Nissan (it came with the PF brochure I ordered from nissandriven) that said the newer PF will be coming September 1. New features are Navigation System, Entertainment, & AWD.
    I just got a quote for an 01 QX4 4WD at $35,800. It includes Premium Package, Sunroof, Towing Package and Rear Wind Deflector. It seems like a pretty reasonable deal, and I think I'm going to take it. I'm tired of sitting on the fence, and I think it's definitely worth the $4,000 difference from the PF. Any opinions out there? Is the Service truly that much better? I really like the idea of being guaranteed a loaner car (I've only found one Nissan dealer in my area willing to promise a loaner, but it's 30 miles away).

    Very close to being a new QX4 Owner :)
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    If you feel that the QX4 is worth the extra $$$, by all means, buy the QX4. I would say that the Infiniti Service Department is much better than the Nissan Service Department. Bottomline is, either one of these SUVs is a great vehicle. It's what makes you happy that determines which one you purchase. You will enjoy whichever it is that you decide on.
  • racezx9racezx9 Posts: 3
    A good friend of mine, is a good friend with the GM of the Nissan dealer out here. Basically I was told that If I want to buy any Nissan car I will be able to get it for the true dealer cost, meaning all the hold back after invoice. I was tempted to buy the the 2001 Pathfinder. but after much consideration I bought the 2001 QX4. I got about 1500 off sticker, but that still made the QX4 about 7K. higher( beacause of the deasl I could have gotten on the PF). But it came down to this. I wanted the QX4!! I drove the PF and the QX4 back to back at a dealeer that sold both. The QX4 rode better, looked better, was quieter, and the car was just more refined. It was a Luxary SUV, and that's what I wanted!! A luxary SUV. Anyone can justify anything that they want, but ultimatley you have to get what you want. If getting A "DEAL" and get something that is almost as good then buy the PF, but if driving a luxary SUV is what you want then buy the QX4. Just like if you want a car that is diguised as a SUV, then buy the Rx300. If you want a SUV that is a SUV then buy the QX4. it's all a matter of personal taste and priority. That is why so many car share platform from one class to another Lexus/ toyota Landcruiser, Ford/ Lincoln Navigator, Chevy/ Cadilac Escalade. The list goes on. Choose what you want. As far as all this resale value goes, your buying aa car, your going loose money!! If you don't want ot loose money, buy bonds and take the bus.
  • racezx9racezx9 Posts: 3
    A good friend of mine, is a good friend with the GM of the Nissan dealer out here. Basically I was told that If I want to buy any Nissan car I will be able to get it for the true dealer cost, meaning all the hold back after invoice. I was tempted to buy the the 2001 Pathfinder. but after much consideration I bought the 2001 QX4. I got about 1500 off sticker, but that still made the QX4 about 7K. higher( beacause of the deasl I could have gotten on the PF). But it came down to this. I wanted the QX4!! I drove the PF and the QX4 back to back at a dealeer that sold both. The QX4 rode better, looked better, was quieter, and the car was just more refined. It was a Luxary SUV, and that's what I wanted!! A luxary SUV. Anyone can justify anything that they want, but ultimatley you have to get what you want. If getting A "DEAL" and getting something that is almost as good is important then buy the PF, but if driving a luxary SUV is what you want then buy the QX4. Just like if you want a car that is diguised as a SUV, then buy the Rx300. If you want a SUV that is a SUV then buy the QX4. it's all a matter of personal taste and priority. That is why so many car share platform from one class to another Lexus/ toyota Landcruiser, Ford/ Lincoln Navigator, Chevy/ Cadilac Escalade. The list goes on. Choose what you want. As far as all this resale value goes, your buying a car, your going lose money!! If you don't want ot lose money, buy bonds and take the bus.
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    how would one pronounce that?
  • I feel very fortunate... I leased my wife an 01 QX4 2WD with the premium pkg. & rear wind def. exactly a month ago. I got the SUV for $1000 over invoice $33,870. Mitigger's price of $35,800 on that SUV is a very good deal too. For the $1500 off sticker for the other poster, that is what I hear that most dealers are willing to discount. There's just not that many QX4's compaired to PF's. I've also heard that there's a real strong following for the Q. Friend of mine loved the wife's Q that he said wanted one. He negotiated $1500 off MSRP & then headed for a Nissan dealer & got the PF because of the pricing diff. We parked the two side by side this week & he said maybe the Q is worth the extra $$$. Our lease is $32 more a month & 9 months longer than his but with the perks of an Infiniti I think it's $$$ well spent. As far as service goes, night & day difference between the two at least locally Infiniti vs. Nissan (I have had dealings with both). My $.02.
  • mjvargomjvargo Posts: 11
    One of the most significant is the ride. The Q gives a much more car like ride than the PF. Also there are three outlets in the QX4. Zenon headlights and better looking interior further differentiate the two vehicles.

    The other differences include the warrenty and the dealership experience. Japanese highline dealerships (Infiniti, Lexus, and Acura but esp. Infiniti) maintain some of the highest customer satisfaction scores in the business. While their counterparts Nissan, Toyota, and Honda have on average some of the lowest. No doubt you will get a better deal (if how close to invoice the dealer is willing to sell you a car is your definition of a good deal) on a Nissan but if you consider the sum total of what you are getting mabye paying a little more is not so bad.
  • eds1300eds1300 Posts: 71
    I just noticed a business card size bubble on
    the rear passenger side of the Michelins.
    The bubble and few of the perpendicular indented
    lines are in 3 of the Michelins.
    Their are no nails or other instrument which
    can cause this problem.
    I am taking this in to Crest Infiniti in Plano.
  • toledo19toledo19 Posts: 119
    Jim, What are the terms of your lease ( payments, length, residual, money factor etc.)
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    "Also there are three outlets in the QX4".

    Uhhmm, the PF has 3 outlets too - one below the CD changer that's supposed to be for the cigarette lighter, one inside the console between the driver and front passenger and one in the cargo area.

    No matter how these two vehicles are twisted around - they are very similar. Except for Xenon Headlights, availability of 17" wheels, better dealership service, more faux wood, softer ride, the QX4 and the PF are very, very similar.

    What determines which vehicle one buys is dependent on the individual. If one feels that the QX4 is worth the price difference, then by all means, buy it. Both are great SUVs.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    Just wondering what tires the QX4s are equipped with, most of the Pathfinders have Bridgestone Duelers and Dunlop Grandtreks. Do you guys have different tires, i.e. Michelins, etc.?

    What is the recommended tire pressure stated in the QX4 owner's manual? PF manual states 26psi, which seems to be a bit low (The Firestone tires that are being recalled had a recommended tire pressure of 26psi and we all know what happens to those).

    If anyone can give feedback, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
  • alingaling Posts: 598
    The QX4 has the Michelin LTX M/S tires. They're actually pretty good, albeit expensive, according to Consumer Reports.
  • ppnffppnff Posts: 61
    The US variant of the QX4 has Bridgestone Duelers. The Lexus RX300 also has the same tires. Then again, I've seen other tires too on the dealer lots.

    On the 26 PSI comment, you may want to read the Wall Street Journal from Monday. The 26 PSI versus 30 PSI has no bearing on the Bridgestone/Firestone problem. Goodyear provided the millions of the same spec tires to Ford with no problems using the same 26 PSI for the Ford Explorer.

    Bridgestone/Firestone appears to have a serious defect in their products. Hopefully, they will be accountable and take more action.

    Either way, I would suggest that you follow the PF manual or talk to your mechanic about your concerns. Good luck.
  • bretfrazbretfraz Posts: 2,021
    Allow me to add a little more to the tire discussion as I have been researching this a bit:

    The 1997-2000 QX4 came with the Bridgestone Dueler H/T D689 in size P245/70R16. A few 1st generation QX4's may have come with another tire like Dunlop but only because Bridgestone ran out of stock or something like that. 99% came with the Dueler.

    The new 2001 QX4 gives you choices. The standard tire is the Bridgestone Dueler H/T D693 in P245/70R16. If you buy the Premium Package you get 17" wheels and tires. Infiniti is offering two tires; Michelin LTX M/S or Bridgestone Dueler H/T D693. Why the choice? Because apparently some early QX4 owners complained the Dueler H/T D689's wore out too quickly and they wanted a tire with better tread life. Enter Michelin. But to me, the Bridgestone is a better tire for the QX4 as it quieter and stickier (told to me by Infiniti, not by personal testing).

    So, if you want long tread life and maybe better all-season performance (LTX trademarks), buy the Michelins. If you want better handling and a quieter ride, get the Bridgestones and replace a bit more often. IMO, these are the two best SUV tires on the market for the QX4... heck, for most any SUV.
  • I just picked up my Titanium 4x4 last night. So far so good. When I asked about break-in of the engine, the dealer said something about "the engine doesn't need any kind of break-in period." Now, I haven't read the manual yet, but every car I've ever bought has mentioned some type of break-in. Also, mine came with the Michelin tires, not sure what dictates whether or not you get the Bridgestone's with the Premium Package, but I prefer Michelins. Anyway, enough rambling. By the way, I didn't notice any shimmy on the way home from the dealer.

    For the record, to anyone who cares: I used to use GoodYear Wranglers on an older Explorer, and they kept cupping and didn't typically last very long. I eventually switched to Michelins, and I loved them.
  • I saw a discussion earlier on floor mats: Did anyone ever find a set that fit well?
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    Try www.roadstore.com, I think that the consensus is that WeatherTech cargo mats are great, but the floor mats are universal fitting, not custom. Husky Liners seems to be best for the floors, even the cargo liner is good.

    I'm waiting also from feedback from a poster in the PF forum that is buying the husky liners.
1457910106
Sign In or Register to comment.