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Land Rover Discovery and Discovery II

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  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    The 2003 is very nice. The ride is a little smoother, better braking and the larger engine is quite nice. Good "get up and go."

    It will be interesting to see if they keep the '05's price close to the current ones.
  • I am trying to determine whether to purchase the Toyota Sequoia Limited or the Discovery II HSE. I know these vehicles are hard to compare, but does anyone have any words of wisdom to help with my decision. Thanks
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    It will be a complete redesign with IFS & IRS


    Uh Oh...
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    I haven't heard anything to that effect internally. But if it does happen, it will probably work like the 03 Range Rover. There has been no issue with how that works off-road, in fact there has been quite a bit of praise for the performance.
  • I have a question that I think came up a while ago here but I have no idea when - searching for an hour seems a waste so here goes:

    Does anybody know about replacing rotors at the same time as brake pads? I have a 2000 Disco II and the dealer tells me that it is just standard practice to replace the rotors every time that the pad is replaced. The rotor doesn't have to be worn, "just needs to be done at the same time". Something about the ABS system.

    I don't know about you guys, but it sounds a little fishy coming from the dealer. My experience is that, yes - the rotors should be replaced when worn, but a rotor within the spec should be fine. This was when the fronts needed new pads several months ago and they said the backs were fine but would need to be done soon.

    It would have helped had the same dealer told me about this when selling me the car. One of the deciding factors was that all maintainence was included for 50K miles. Paying several hundred $$ extra for rotors because "it just needs to be done at the same time" was kind of like a kick in the teeth from the same guy who took my money 18 months ago.

    I go in for service in 2 days so any opinion is appreciated.
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Ask to see in the Workshop Manual where it is listed as required (it isn't).
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,025
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  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    That sounds like crap to me. The rotors should last a long time. At some point they would have to be resurfaced, but I can't imagine having to replace them so early on.
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    I replace my brake pads ~every 17k miles and at 72k miles my rotors are still within tolerance for minimum wear thickness.

    I'd recommend you find a new dealer. If he's misleading in the simple things... what will happen if something more serious comes up?

    Annnnnd, if you have access to hand tools I recommend you do your own brake pad replacements. It's a SUPER easy job, great design, it's fast and it gives you a better appreciation of your truck. If you had it on blocks so both wheels were elevated on the same side, I bet you could replace both sets of pads in 20 minutes... and then rotate the tires front <--> back while it's up in the air! hint hint... (and reset the pressures when you're done.)

    Best regards, -Bob
  • sportmsportm Posts: 3
    Local dealer gave me the story about their pricing being fixed, and they're suppose to sell at the MSRP, which is $39,495 for '03 SE. Said he'd give me a deal at $37,637. This is my first experience dealing with Land Rover, so I'm wondering if this is a fair price? I'm also wondering if I wait a month, maybe I'll get a better price? I've always gotten a bigger discount through other mfgs, so this doesn't seem like such a good deal to me. Any help is much appreciated!
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    I understand your question about pricing. I don't know if you're interested, but my advice would be to wait and buy one that's nearly new (6 months?) for many thousands off the "new" price.

    That's what I did, and I got the truck I wanted for a GREAT price. I still had plenty of warranty left and the dealer here still treats me like a valued customer (and I didn't even buy it used from him!)

    Just my $.02 -Bob
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    The manufacturer cannot dictate what vehicles are sold for, although all manufacturers set MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail price) at what they feel is a fair price for their product. One thing to remember about most Land Rover dealers is they do not have the high volume of sales to allow deep discounts. You can make less profit percentage off your vehicles if you can sell a lot of them. Land Rover dealers don't have this luxury, they have to retain a higher percentage of profit per vehicle to stay in business. Land Rover sold less vehicles in the US (Discovereys and Range Rovers) last year for the year than Ford sold Explorers in one month.
  • 4myinfo4myinfo Posts: 1
    I'm considering a 96 or newer Discovery for my kid's first car. We have been looking at Toyota 4 Runners but pricing on older Disc seems competitive. What should I look out for? elec problems? expensive to repair? bad brakes? any info I would appreciate.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    I think they are just using the "MSRP" line because they are new.

    "Each Land Rover Retailer sets vehicle prices individually." This is directly off of their website. So the price should be a little flexible.

    The price you were quoted doesn't sound bad at all. That is the lowest Iv'e heard.

    Do they have the Center Diff Lock in it yet?

    Good Luck
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Watch for rust... Around the Upper "Safari" windows, bottoms of doors, hood..etc.

    If it's rusty, pass on it.

    Watch for leather wear, lack of maintinence (Is it sitting on el-cheapo-el-crappo tires?), faded paint on the hood and roof, little electrical problems and AC..

    Overall, after scaring you (LOL) these are GREAT vehicles. They dont like being mis-maintained though.

    If any of you are in Orlando BTW, I have a GREAT Land Rover tech!

    Hope this helps!

    Bill
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Center diff lock is not available yet.
  • sportmsportm Posts: 3
    Thanks to everybody for the info. Mrwhipple, I think what you said about the price being higher because they are new is probably true. Maybe I should be a little more patient and wait a month or so to give them an idea of how well their inventory will move. I am also surprised to hear that is the lowest price you've heard. And for "tincup47", what you said also makes sense. I will take all this into consideration before finalizing anything. But if I can get them to go lower, better for me! I will update my final price. Thanks again!
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    I don't want to be the one to throw water on the fire, but I wouldn't buy a Rover for a kid's first car.

    My thinking is this: I know how I drove in my teens (ahem). I know how peer pressure prods one into doing things not normally done. I know that these are trucks and not cars, with corresponding high CGs and roll rates. I know these are tough vehicles, but also expensive to fix.

    If it was me, I'd buy something a little more disposable, cheaper to fix, and able to withstand the unthinkable: an intersection side impact.

    It ain't cool, but a BIG sedan comes to mind. Look at what the police and cabbies drive... they spend their lives in harm's way in traffic. Their choice for vehicles makes sense.

    In a few more years, think about something with a high CG and long travel suspension. This is your child, one of the most precious things in the Universe. If your selection makes you uncool, s/he will thank you for it some day.

    Just my $.02 -Bob
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I'm with Bob on this one. A great first car would be a used, ex-cop (P71)Crown Vic.

    Just my 2¢. - Dave :-)
  • sportmsportm Posts: 3
    Thanks to everybody for the info. Mrwhipple, I think what you said about the price being higher because they are new is probably true. Maybe I should be a little more patient and wait a month or so to give them an idea of how well their inventory will move. I am also surprised to hear that is the lowest price you've heard. And for "tincup47", what you said also makes sense. I will take all this into consideration before finalizing anything. But if I can get them to go lower, better for me! I will update my final price. Thanks again!
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