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Land Rover Discovery and Discovery II

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  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Now that I am at work I can give out the number for the block heater, it is PRC9674.
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    Just pop in some nice thin oil. That's all you gotta do. Give her a new filter and some 0-30w and you're good down to -20 easily. I've gone lots colder than that, without even plugging her in (where we go camping there ain't no outlets).

    Just give her lots of time to warm up before you go anywhere... and she will be SLUGGISH. It's actually kind of funny. :)

    Going camping tonight with the Scouts. Sleeping out in snowbanks with tarps, and starting the Astronomy merit badge... we got lots of black nights, white stars and clear skies.
  • pjd1pjd1 Posts: 13
    A question for the group:
    Has anyone had any experience with the following tires to replace the stock 18" Goodyear Wrangler HP's: Bridgestone Dueler H/P ($133.), Kumho Ecsta STX ($98.), Pirelli Scorpion Zero($124)
    Any direct experience with these tires would be appreciated.
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    The campout this weekend was great, and even though it hit -20F the Disco still started right up for the drive home. If you run thin oil you should have no trouble.
  • r178r178 Posts: 10
    Hey Tincup...Don't know if you remember me but, I'm the guy with the wife that wants to purchase the Acura MDX over the DISCO. Anyways, I've been working with this online company bear valley. I was wondering if you could check some things out for me. If so here is some info.

    VIN# SALTY124XXA215314
    VIN# SALTW124XA2A737200
    I would appreciate all and any help that you may provide.
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Hi there,
    VIN XA215314 was built 3/19/99, last reported service was at 26,083 miles. Vehicle is a California car. Pretty clean warranty history, just a couple of minor repairs. There is one outstanding recall showing.

    VIN 2A737200 was built 7/09/01, last reported service was at 4,771 miles. Vehicle was sold in Georgia. Warranty history is spotless.
    Hope that info helps
  • garywgaryw Posts: 116
    Are we allowed to post our vehicle as being up for sale on this board or is it against the rules.

    Thanks...
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,868
    No buying or selling on Town Hall please. Try the Sell Your Car link on the main edmunds.com page.

    And thanks for asking!

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Need help navigating? stever@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • Let me know, if you don't mind, how your dealings with bear Valley turn out. I'm considering getting a LR from them in about a year. Thanks
    Cheers
    Pat
  • garywgaryw Posts: 116
    Any recommendations for LR boards to post my vehicle on.

    Thanx.
  • At first i didn't think so, but after seeing the spy photo in the attached link, IT'S TRUE - THEY'VE SOLD OUT TO FORD!! The photo looks like a ford explorer. What does everyone think about this. Looks like I better buy a 2003 because it's going to be the last of the breed

    http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5147&n=158,- 178&sid=178
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I wouldn't worry too much yet. That photo could be or mean anything. Just because the guy selling the photo says it's the next Disco doesn't mean diddly-squat.

    It looks pretty much like an Explorer to me. They might be testing some stuff in-with-on it, but otherwise... ??

    Ford recently announced that Land Rover would be developing thier own vehicles. And though they will surely use some Ford bits (drivetrain) they will continue to be true Land Rovers.

    PAG heads have seen the disaster that rebadging Fords as premium brands brings. The Jag X-type has been a complete failure. It is essentially a rebadged Ford Mondeo, a good car, but not at $40k.

    Fear not Rover-faithfull! The sky is NOT falling.. yet.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    Yeah, that "Explorer" is clearly just a test mule. And you are dead right; the WORST thing PAG could do is force LR to share platforms with Ford's so-called SUVs. Imagine an Explorer based Disco with no ground clearance, no low range, and a column shift. I'm sure there are more than a few bean counters at Ford who think that is a great idea. Blecch...
  • I tend to believe the info here (click on "Future Model Updates"):

    http://www.thelandroverchronicle.com/new_page_337.htm

    QUOTE:
    A new Discovery is penciled in for 2005. The Discovery III will use an all new platform which will be shared with the Defender replacement also for 2005 and the baby Range Rover in 2006.
    Key features: expect more ground clearance, higher approach and departure angles, better on road handling and better off-road ability.

    The price for the new Discovery will remain very close to the base price of the outgoing model, but the base petrol engine ( V8 ) will be replaced with a modified Jaguar V6. This new V6 will deliver around the same bhp with slightly less torque than the V8 it replaces. Of course the new V8 will also be from Jaguar and will command a higher price of around $5,000 more than the V6. A new line of Turbo diesel engines will appear ( although probably not in North America ), the new joint venture Ford/Peugeot 2.7 V6 TD will produce around the same bhp as the petrol V6, but with almost as much torque as the petrol V8

    The exterior for Discovery will be a revolution rather than an evolution. Key features: Rear mounted spare tire will move inside, new split tailgate similar to Range Rover's, optional long wheelbase, optional air-suspension, overall look much sportier.
    UNQUOTE

    Let's hope it's right....sounds good to me.
  • I read at DiscoWeb that a memmber was told by a Land Rover USA tech rep that a FUNCTIONAL CDL will be available here.

    Can anyone else confirm this?

    I am holding off on my purchase until I find out about this.....

    TIA.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    That jives with what I've "heard" through my PAG souces as well. (Volvo is a big client so I dig a bit). :-)
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Could you expand on what you mean by functional CDL?
  • Tincup: What I meant by "functional CDL" was a driver-selectable center differential lock. The early Discovery IIs (through mid 2001) had a CDL installed in the transfer case, but you could not actually engage it from inside the cabin, as LR in their infinite wisdom did not include a selector lever. You could still install an aftermarket system to actuate it. (By installing an aftermarket system, you endangered your drivetrain warranty.) In mid-2001 LR completely eliminated the internal CDL parts from the case.

    The 2003 Disco II has a fully functional CDL available as an option in overseas markets only. I am really hoping that it will be available here in the USA. It is a very useful feature for serious off-roading in situations where the ETC can get overwhelmed. It also provides a mechanical fail-safe in case of ETC failure while 'wheeling, and a lockable center diff is a requirement if you plan to install limited slip or locking diffs in the axles.

    This issue is confused by the recent CDL Placard mistake by LR USA, in which they installed CDL operating instructions in 2003 Disco IIs that did not even have a CDL. Some owners were _really_ mad to find out that their new trucks did not have the feature. As I would have been, had I bought one. Even the experienced salesman I dealt with was fooled.
  • Sporin: Thanks for the reply - it is encouraging to here a rumor substantiated, even if the only way to know for sure is to wait for the press release. BTW, what are "PAG sources"?
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    Because my company (advertising) has Volvo as a client, we here a lot of the "scuttlebutt" from the Premier Auto Group (PAG) realm.

    PAG is the Ford division that runs Jag, Volvo, Land Rover, and Aston Martin.
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Is not slated to show up on US vehicles until the 2004 MY. (I get more than scuttlebutt, I work for LRNA).
     I was just confused by the abbreviation as it was before I had my coffee, I am quite aware of what the center diff lock does. The diff lock was in the earlier transfer case because it was essentially the same case as the Discovery I. The reason it was not activated was because the ETC software was not written to deal with a locking center diff. It could be manually activated, but would make the ABS and ETC malfunction. In late 2001 the parts inside the case that enabled diff lock were removed as a cost saving measure (no sense paying for components that weren't used)There were 2 different Tboxes developed for 2003 MY, but Diff lock was not included in US vehicles. The labels that the service action was for were for UK vehicles that had the CDL installed, it was a mistake on the production line in the UK that led to them being on US vehicles.
  • Tincup - since it seems as if you are in the midst of things.....

    Do you know if the CDL will be an option or standard equipment?

    If an option, do you have any idea of the cost and availability (percentage of vehicles produced with the CDL)?

    It is interesting that a phone call to LRNA brings zero information on this subject ("We are not allowed to discuss future models"), yet you personally seem willing to talk here. Can you get into trouble by talking about this? I hope not.

    I really want a Disco II, but I will wait as long as necessary to buy one with a CDL, as long as I know there is a good chance they will be available. By talking to me about it, LR is not losing a customer.
  • kacykkacyk Posts: 4
    I'm tempted to purchse a 2000 Disco II that's under factory warranty. I realize that these cars are quirky and seem to have some reliability issues but nothing can't be worse than my (I bought it new at the time) 1983 SAAB 900S. I've been hearing that whatever problems there are, that they surface early and once fixed, stay that way. Si I'm assuming that a 30K mile Disco II will have the bugs out. Also, I do plan on an extended warranty. Any thoughts or recommendations? kacykang@hotmail.com Thank you! Kacy
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    I can't go into specifics on future models, and have no idea of cost. The owner care dept. are not allowed to give future model info, and if the CDL wasn't already available in other markets, I wouldn't mention it at all.
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    I'd take a long hard look at the vehicle's history by VIN. That's just long enough for someone to be thoroughly aggravated by the truck and get rid of it. Tincup can tell you the history.

    On the other hand, you might have a good deal there. If the history is clean (no recurring visits to dealer) then you'll save a bundle over the new price and have a truck that will last for YEARS.

    I bought my DI at 9 months of age and 11k miles. I saved about $10k over the new price, and I did the dirty work and got all the bugs worked out. It was aggravating (and the DIIs are a LOT better than my '96 in that regard) but now I'm really glad I did it. Your DII will be head and shoulders better for initial build quality than my '96 was.

    To consider: at 35k miles you're looking at a transmission service. It's pricey... see if they'll agree to do that service for free when you buy it. It doesn't hurt to ask!

    Regards, -Bob
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    Forgive me if I'm poking my nose in here, but it sounds to me like you want to go offroad with your Disco. If so, I'd recommend a late DI. It has better overhangs than the DII, and it's got better visibility out the cabin. The leather is more durable, and it's a bit more spartan inside (less painful when you get it all muddy). The axles have a lot more moving parts, but they're still tough as nails. It has plenty of power, doesn't have HDC and ETC and XYZ and all the other mumbo-jumbo you really don't need for offroading, and it has the manual locking center diff. Put a Detroit locker in the rear and a TrueTrac in the front and you're unstoppable.

    And the money you save will pay for all these toys as well. :)

    Just my $.02 -Bob
  • I need some info about the '03 disco se.I am contemplating purchasing one but I believe ford is the parent company. I am not a ford fan (heck no) but I am wondering if this vehicle is a dressed up expedition. And does it share any parts with any ford products. I know the British autos are not the best but I want nothing to do with any ford product.
  • Trying to buy a Michelin tires. Went to Costco and shop around. They don't recommend putting in the Michelin Cross Terrain the said it is not suited for LR Disco. Michelin Tech support confirmed it when I called them up to verify. Costco suggested the Michelin 4X4 XPC which is $193++.

    Any suggestion on what kind of tires that is best suited for Disco II. I need to change the two front tires. I'll be moving the rear tires to the front and have the 2 new tires installed at the back. I have 34K miles on my truck and I am here in the Bay Area

    Thanks for the help
  • Try the Pirelli Scorpion S/T. Excellent tire and a lot cheaper than the Michelin.
  • nanuqnanuq Posts: 765
    No, I don't believe you'd find a single part from any Ford that would fit the Disco. It's a truly distinct vehicle. At this point I believe Ford is streamlining management etc., and in the future you'll likely begin to see hybrid parts that "will" work on the Rover... and begin to migrate over there. Just not now.
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