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BMW X5 Maintenance and Repair

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  • nyeanyea Posts: 12
    i agree with you 200%. you would think you are getting a better vehicle since you are paying a premium price for it. although my x5 has not having so many problems as yours, it is bad enough to be the 2nd worest vehicle i have ever had (the worest one is my 323i, i have spent over $5000 to repair so far). as far as reliability, german auto makers are the worest in comparison to the japanese and american. i guess they are simply overwhelmed by the hi-tech application in the auto industry. the bmw dealership and service are well below the luxary-car-dealership standards, and is the worest among all.
  • nyeanyea Posts: 12
    i have to add 1 quart of oil for my x5 3.0i at an interval of 5000 miles when i purchased the vehicle new (of course, i was told by the dealer that it is normal). now the problem is getting worse - 1 quart every 1000 miles. my 2005 330xi started with the same problem. i have to assume that this would be a common problem for a lot of bmw owners, at least for those who own the 3-liter models? i don't remember i have ever added a drop of motor oil for any other non-bmw models i have or had, including my 1982 mb 380sl with 180,000 miles on it.
  • nyeanyea Posts: 12
    i think for a situation such as yours you may want to consider seeking help from the dept of motor vehicle, or state attorney general. the state lemon laws may apply to your case.
  • I added a set of aftermarket 22" wheels / tires to my 2005 BMW X5 3.0 with sports package last week. The ride is noticeably different and at certain speeds, the steering wheel lightly shakes. The original wheels were 18". I had an alignment done and the front tires/wheels rebalanced and things have not improved. To make the ride smoother, what type of suspension upgrade options are available? Do I need to put on a set of upgraded brakes/rotors?
  • johncinmdjohncinmd Posts: 1
    I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with VOB service in Rockville Maryland. I recently had my second experience and it was a nightmare(again). My wife owns a Cadillac SRX and when she enters the service department she is treated like a valued customer. VOB is unorganized, arrogant, slow, and on par with what I would imagine KIA service to be. Is this standard for BMW or is it just VOB. I love this car but unless they fix this problem I will not buy another BMW.

    Any thoughts on what BMW is doing to fix these problems? As an example Cadillac washes and vacuums my wifes car when she brings it in for routine maintenance. VOB did none of this and left trash(temp floor mats and plastic on the seat) in the car. The Cadillac dealer has teams that a customer is assigned to(same as BMW). But if there is a line of 5 people for a team another team member takes the customer. BMW Service reps were more interested in discussing the NBA game the prior evening.

    It took me 55 minutes to get in and out of the service department that was not very busy...
  • kscctsksccts Posts: 140
    Must be your dealership...my dealer in TN, Grayson BMW, is outstanding. Car is washed and vacuumed with every service and in/out is very quick.
  • heslerhesler Posts: 2
    Recently I took my 2004 x5 to Otto's BMW in West Chester PA for vibration on floor/gas peddle which occurs every time I go up a hill at 40-45 mph 2000rpm- more of a fluttering like the car is underpowered. They told me to step on the peddle to avoid it. Only problem is I live in a Police State where they patrol that hill every day. They said they felt the problem too, but gave me no answers on how to fix it other than break the law by speeding. UNBELIEVABLE.
  • stc1stc1 Posts: 2
    I have a 2005 X5 4.4. If I am sitting on a hill at a dead stop and push the gas, the transmission clunks and jerks the whole car. It feels like the rear end just fell out. Took to dealership twice, they think it is my imagination. Is there a fix?
  • I've got a 2004 X5 with 4.4. This also happens to me from time to time. First time it happened I thought somebody hit me from behind. If you search the internet you will find that this is a known problem among X5 owners, seems to be more common with 4.4. No known fix. No BMW dealership is every able to find the cause (or so it seems based on the posts of X5 owners. BMW of Dallas (aka John Roberts BMW) is unable to identify any flaw. If you find out what the problem is then please let me know. Otherwise, and most probably, you are just going to have to live with it.
    Kelly Warren
  • I put my 2003 530 (E39) in storage every winter and drive a 2001 X5 (4.4).

    I use a BMW (trickle) Charger which plugs into the 110v wall outlet and the 12v socket in the dash. After three winters of use, I have never had a dead battery and it always starts the first time in the sprine. I highly recommend this charger which I purchased from my BMW dealer. It has an easy to understand interface - if the light is green all is well.

    I am glad to report that my experience with both vehicles has been excellent - the 530 has had no problems whatsoever, and with the X-5 (75k miles) overall problems have been minimal, and mostly under warranty.

    I am going out to look at a 2006 X-5 replacement today.

    The BMW service department at my local Dealer here in Utica, NY, "Don's Ford/BMW", has been excellent. The sales people are great as well.
  • Hi Kelly!

    Yes, it is true that BMW rotors must be replaced/changed when changing the pads. This is because the rotors do not have enough material to be "turned" as they used to be years ago, due to tight tolerances.

    Other issues may be warping of the rotors if they are not turned correctly or the effect of heat (during braking)over time.

    In general, I question whether rotors could be manufactured "thicker" initially to allow turning when the pads need replacing.

    I am not sure whether this is a ploy
    to (1) sell more rotors, (2) because there is a actual bonafide reason, or (3) there isn't enough money in turning rotors, (4) it has become an environmental/health issue for the shop technicians doing the "turning" of rotors.

    I suspect that it may be a little of each.

    One thing to consider in all of this is that cost is only an issue for BMW vehicles that are "Out of Warranty" - this is a "covered" charge for "In Warranty."

    Hope that this answers your question.
  • A standard oil/filter change for an X5 4.4 (8 quarts of BMW Synthetic Oil + Filter) at a BMW dealer should be around $90.00-100.00, plus tax, depending on the shop's hourly service rate.

    My advise: Ask what else they are changing/servicing for $285. If they tell you that it is only for oil and a filter, go elsewhere.
  • mwfkmwfk Posts: 1
    I have a 2005 X5 4.4i, I had the same problem when I first got the car. The first time, my dealer reset the software for the transmission and it works for a while and happened again. The second time, they re-problem the software again and it seems to be ok now.

    Hope this help.
  • mrickeymrickey Posts: 2
    Well, Last week I purchase a brand-new 2006 x5 3.0. Absolutely love it, beautiful car. And this is what I have always wanted. Well, 6 days later it's being towed because the battery is dead. The service people replaced the battery saying it was faulty. But I noticed that my bluetooth was ALWAYS on--27/7--, even if the car was off. In fact it found my cel phone even if I was out in my back yard, FAR from the car. Well the dealer fixed it so when the car is off the bluetooth shuts off now as well. Do you think that this could have been the source of the drain, or am in for a "long and winding road" with this SAV??
  • :mad:

    Hello All

    I am new to these boards, but have enjoyed reading many of your posts. I recently purchased (2 weeks ago) a new BMW X5 4.4i (2006). I love the car, HOWEVER, I am concerned about the gas mileage I am getting with it. On the window sticker it shows the mileage as "16 / 22", however every time I fill up (24 gallons of premium petrol) I am only able to drive 290ish miles, before the yellow fuel tank indicator light goes on. I drive for maybe 10 miles, then refuel, (it takes another 24 gallons) and the same thing happens.

    I live in Los Angeles, and at least half of the miles I drive are on the freeway with a average speed of 65 - 70 MPH. I know I should be getting at LEAST a good 450 miles per fillup, and I don't know what I should do.

    I am spending oodles of $$$ every 4 days putting fuel in the car, and I feel that BMW has not truthfully disclosed this car's fuel efficiency. If I would have known that I was going to get 13 miles per gallon I would have not bought the V8, and would have settled for the V6.

    Can someone please tell me what my options are, and what I should do? Shall I go to the dealership, and if so, what should I say? No joke, this care is costing me a lot of money.

    Any help would be appreciated,

    Sanjab
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Sanjab,

    I copied one of your posts to the X3 & X5:MPG - Real World Numbers" discussion. Be sure to check it out to find what others are getting.

    tidester, host
  • re1985re1985 Posts: 3
    I am the second owner (I acquired at 44,500 miles) of a 2001 BMW X5 and suspect that I have blown my engine. I have 63,000 miles on it and do NOT drive the vehicle aggressively. My wife was driving when she noticed that, when stopped at a traffic light, it sounded as if it was going to stall. The light turned green, she push the accelerator, the x5 responded normally, she drove it 3/4 of a mile and parked it at a store (at this time it appeared to be operating properly). When she came out of the store and started the x5 she heard a loud continuous clunking and clanking noise within the engine compartment and immediately turned the car off. When I arrived I noticed a pool of oil (1ft x 2ft) under the car. There were never any warning lights on the instrument panel and I just had an oil change 4000 miles ago..

    I am going to plan for the worst and hope for the best. However, if I have to replace the engine (3.0 L), what can I expect to pay for this at the BMW dealership. I live in the Detroit area and may consider have the engine rebuilt (if necessary) at an independent shop. As far as vehicle re-sale is concerned, would it be better to have a brand new out-of-the-box factory engine installed from the dealership, or a have my engine rebuilt, for less money, at an independent shop??? When I sell (who knows when now) will somebody be more likely to pay more money for an x5 with a new dealer installed engine as opposed to something rebuilt??? Help!!!
  • heslerhesler Posts: 2
    I don't know if this may help, but I heard on a car radio talk show someone with the same problem. They said maybe the temp gauge was defective , telling the car it needs to send thru more gas to cool the engine. Worth a try.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,835
    I would say either new engine (which is going to be VERY expensive) or a used engine installed by the dealer. I don't think many if any shops WOULD rebuild that engine and it might not be much cheaper if they do. At least a new engine has a factory warranty whereas an independent rebuild gets dicey if it breaks---was it the machine shop's fault, the mechanic's fault who put it together, or the installer's fault?

    Maybe the engine isn't totally trashed, that's possible too. Sometimes things like broken water pumps make a hell of a racket.

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  • re1985re1985 Posts: 3
    Thank you very much for your response. At the time that I wrote my question; I was frustrated and waiting to hear back from the BMW dealership (not to mention hours away from leaving on, or postponing, our vacation). Indeed, you know your X5's... It was exactly what you thought it could be. According to the dealer repair invoice:
    "The water pump bearing failed causing the belts to break and wrap around the crankshaft pulley, hence the clunking sound. The lack of coolant in the reservoir (vapor causes the jugs to fail) Replaced the coolant water pump. Coolant Jug (reservoir), the A/C belt, Alternator belt and the plastic fan which was damaged during the ordeal."
    Total cost: $917.17 Not fun, but not as bad as I thought. Thanks again for your help!!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,835
    phew! lucky you! Yeah, it kinda sounded like catastrophic water pump failure.

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  • re1985re1985 Posts: 3
    I'll say... Thanks again for your help.
    Two more questions...
    1)What are your thoughts on using "mid-grade" gasoline versus the recommended "premium"? 2) The dealership charges $100 (maybe $110) for an "Oil Service" appointment. They record the service appointment on BMW's computer network so that the car service history is shown as consistent. I know that I can get an synthetic oil change for $55 at a national chain (non-BMW) maintainance shop. Is is worth trying to save $50 at the national chain, or do the BMW dealerships add that much more value (expertise/knowledge of the vehicle) for their higher price? PS: If I'm only paying the $55 at the national chain, I will probably be more likely to have the oil changed every 8,000-10,000 miles instead of the 15,000 mile BMW recommendation.
  • suv2006suv2006 Posts: 1
    I just purchased a 2nd 2001 X5, i don't know if its normal for the air con fan to operate on its own ? when we turn on the engine the fan will sometimes blow strongly and then turn itself down and then suddenly its blowing strongly again. This will continue for a few minutes and it will stop, is this a function of temperture control ?
    Also when we turn off the engine, the air con fan will run on its own on and off for an hour ! can anyone help me out ? i am very confused.....
    thanks!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,835
    You can try mid-grade fuel and see how the car responds. The engine management system will adjust for any change in octane anyway...at worst you might notice a slight drop in performance and or fuel mileage, but maybe not. It really depends on how critically the BMW engineers have designed the engine for premium fuel. But no harm in trying and you might get away with no ill effects whatsoever.

    As for oil changes...while you are in warranty, I would definitely go to the dealer. If the chain store screws something up, the BMW dealer has a loop hole for denying your warranty claims...$50 bucks on a $10,000 engine seems not worth the risk to me. There are better ways to save $$ by avoiding the dealer, like buying tires or batteries, etc.

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  • I wonder what the pads and rotors are made out of. I recently read that the Lexus GS-430 with the performance package has ceramic brakes that require the same rotor and brake pad change at around 20k miles (depending on how hard the driver is on brakes).
  • I too experienced the same problem with my X5. When I took the vehicle into the dealer they knew right away what it was and said it is a pretty common occurance. There is a resistor in the fan circuit that gets weak, which causes the fan to act eratic. It was a $120 dollar repair.
  • My service light came on so I made the dreaded trip to the repair shop to find out what it was. They (not a BMW dealer but competent foreign shop)said the test pulled three things; thermostat - weak apparently not opening at the right temperature, a crank shaft monitor & an emmissions monitor all need to be replaced. Does this sound right? What should I expect for cost of this repair?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,835
    hmmmm...maybe not quite right...the "codes" just indicate the circuit or system wherein the problem lies, not the actual defective component. Three codes don't mean three bad things.

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  • Take it to the dealer. This philosophy might cost you in the short term but will save you grief and money in the long term. Dealers seem to be the only ones that can take consistent care of these vehicles.
  • reeffreeff Posts: 5
    I'd like to get some feedback as to what to do on my X5 3.0 as the warranty will be ending in april of 2007.

    I have two options:

    - Purchase extended warranty : Who would you recommend I go through and what would it cost?

    - Trade in/sell vehicle and obtain a lease on a X5.

    It is my wife's vehicle and she would like a new X5 however I'm not sure what it would cost me. I reside in Naperville, Illinois.

    Any thoughts or recommendations?
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