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Lincoln Navigator

I am seriously interested in buying a Lincoln
Navigator and I want to know if anyone out there
can tell me when and where I can get information
regarding the year 2001 Models so that I can see
what is new and what is improved. I have two young
children and also want to know if the Navigator
has options for a television to keep my kids
occupied on long trips to Florida. Does anyone
know when the 2001 Navigator will be available for
purchase?
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  • lukezeuslukezeus Posts: 4
    Very similar situation. Two young kids (carseats) also; and also drive to Fl.(@ least once a year). Selling '99 grand cher ltd. and '99 acura RL for bigger vehicle. Trying to decide, navig. vs. escalade. No details on 2001(2) esc.; went to Linc. dealer who went on dealer website(pc carbook - ? reliable) ; from what I could surmise: leather change, valet key addition, standard aux. clim. control; but no major (drivetrain, etc.) changes. Hope this helps: e-mail is lukezeus@aol.com.
  • philw2philw2 Posts: 36
    Picked up my 2k Nav last week. its loaded to the max and loving it. Pure luxury. Got a great deal too.
  • There are options for televisions in Navigators. I have a cousin that owns one and he has 4 televisions and a playstation in it. It is very fun even though I wish that it was my own. The Lincoln Navigator is the BEST choice over all vehicles. I love this S.U.V. like I love anything. Alot of people think that I am crazy because I can since them a mile away. :-) seriously you should get a "NAVI" it's the greatest you won't regret it.
  • lukezeuslukezeus Posts: 4
    tv's are factory? options in 2001? What else is new? Thanks.
  • lukezeuslukezeus Posts: 4
    Tx! Great luck with your new Navi.. I should have mine within 48 hrs.. I will look to add the video system, and a hands-free phone (mine didn't come with). Any further suggests., feel free to write ( here, or to lukezeus@aol.com).
  • cgcercgcer Posts: 1
    Hello. I am looking for a new Nav' and am wondering how far below dealer invoice (if at all) I can expect the dealers to move? Can anyone provide pricing? Thanks
  • slawlorslawlor Posts: 3
    I have started looking at the Navigator and I love it. The problem is convincing my wife this is he SUV our family needs. Does anyone have the pros-cons, head-to-head comparison between the Navigator and the Eddie Bauer Expedition? If not, does anyone have a good excuse to spend the extra dough and get the Navigator? Thanks.
  • gennagenna Posts: 4
    WE PURCHASED A 2000 2WD NAVIGATOR AND ARE VERY HAPPY WITH IT,HOWEVER IT HAS A VIBRATION WHEN DRIVING BETWEEN 70/80MPH. THE PASSENGER SEAT ACTUALLY SHAKES,SECOND VISIT TO DEALER WHICH IS NOW REPLACING THE TIRES WITH MICHELINS. ALSO HAVE WHAT WE DESCRIBE AS A POPPING NOISE WHEN THE MOTOR IS HOT, AND WE MOVE FORWARD A FEW FEET FROM A STOP.THIS HAPPENS INTERMITTENTLY.WE SURE HOPE THE DEALER CAN FIX THESE PROBLEMS. ANY ONE ELSE HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEMS?
  • gennagenna Posts: 4
    geepal

    I SUGGEST WE STAY IN TOUCH REGARDING THE VIBRATION WE ARE EXPERIENCING AND WHAT THE DEALER/MANUFACTURE ARE DOING TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.THE TIRES THAT ARE ORDERD FOR ME ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE 30 DAYS TO ARRIVE??? I WILL BE SURE TO POST THE RESULTS.
    BE SURE TO READ YOUR LEMON LAW BOOK SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR RIGHTS ARE.
    HOPE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS AND LEARN IF THEY ARE, OR ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM.
  • jlath2ojlath2o Posts: 2
    I'm in the process of purchasing a 2000 Nav. Does anyone know if Lincoln has history of offering rebates or incentives prior to the newer models(2001)arriving in the showrooms? If I can save an additional 2-3k by waiting a few weeks why not? Also, if the 2001 is comparable in price I'll purchase the newer model. Thanks for any information.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I just bought a 2000 Nav. My first test drive was in a Nav that had a terrible steering wheel shake at expressway speeds (thank goodness I drove on a an exressway and not just the dealership side roads!). Anyhow, the sales rep told me the shaking was due to the Nav sitting outside for too long therefore the wheels develop a "flat spot" that causes the vibration. (????) He said the problem would go away after driving it for a few days. Yea right. I test drove another Nav in the same dealership and the steering shake was virtually gone.

    Anyhow, the Nav seems like a great SUV with all the toys I wanted. I almost went for an LX 470 (it drives like pure SILK) but both back rows seemed cramped and there was alot less headroom for me, plus the extra $$$ made me reconsider.

    I'll keep you posted on how things are going. I PRAY the steering wheel shaking doesn't start up with my NAV. If it does, I'll let you know.
  • I have a '98 Lincoln Navigator with the same vibration problem. It starts at 65 mph and gets worse. Have had to the dealer numerous times. Srevice manager stated that is was inherent to the vehicle. I would have thought that they would have fixed the problem by the 2000 model year. Apparantly they have not. I have had no satifactory respnse from the dealer and Lincoln will not respond to the complaint. Can't wait for the lease to run out on it. I bought a '00 ML430 Mercedes which has yet to return to the dealer. Can't say that for the Navigator. I know all the sevice people at the Lincol dealership on a first name basis. Now it need to go back because "the hitch can seperate from the frame" recall. Sounds like they didn't put very strong bolts in these things. Only had it a month when it had to be returned because "the wheels could serperate from the vehicle. Hope you guys have better luck with yours. Anyone wanna buy a loaded '98 4x2?
  • easecoeaseco Posts: 3
    Just bought a nav. 47k o.t.d. - think I did ok on the deal. (by the way steering wheel prob. occurred in a prev. expedition, was caused by tire balancing - 29 bucks later it was fixed). Any way the two comments I had were this - during the whole process, I never realized that the Nav. required 91 octane fuel or higher MINIMUM! so say the instructions. The other thing was, our nav. had the climate control seats AC/Heat - was a very cool option initially, however after having it for a week, I have to say it's not worth the money. The non-perforated seats look better and seemed more comfortable (just an opinion). Other than that, like it much more than our previous suburban.
  • slawlorslawlor Posts: 3
    That does sound like a good deal ($47k otd) what options did you have on that? OTD include taxes, dest charge, doc charge, etc...? It is disappointing to hear about the climate controlled seats, that is one option I thought would be great. It is discouraging to hear about the 91 octane fuel, with the price of fuel so high.
  • easecoeaseco Posts: 3
    Options were as follows 4x2, cd changer, alpine stereo upgrade, climate seats, chrome wheels, moonroof, rear air, - I think that's it. 800 over invoice (so they say). Los Angeles sales tax is 8.25% + Calif. registration (about 1.5%). The seats are still nice, however, after having them, would not get it as an option.
    Good Luck
  • easecoeaseco Posts: 3
    Lincoln also started 0.9% financing for 36 months as of Sat. July 30th. Very good deal!!
  • a_gala_gal Posts: 4
    I am currently driving a '99 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 22k miles. What a joy...3 sets of new rotors and brake pads, vibration in steering wheel and dash when driving...constant dealership returns. I WILL trade the jeep when it gets out of the shop! Thought of trading for a low mileage Navigator. Any info. on the '98 4x4 Navigator would be much appreciated. Low maintenance will be crucial to my next purchase. :o)
  • ric1035ric1035 Posts: 32
    I own a 2000 navigator, 2 months old. The driver rear leans 1/2 inch than the passenger side. The dealer admits that it does lean but they said it needs to lean more than 3/4 before they can do anything about it. According to Ford specifications 3/4 inch is normal. They measured from the bottom of the rim to the fender on both sides.

    tmeyer1 had the same problem from a previous topic (1999 navigator) post #150. Did you get yours fixed?

    They fixed the rear windshield washer drip by installing a one way valve.

    The side mirrors are not suppose to tilt while backing up I was told. The brochure was a misprint.

    Has anyone figured out how to program a genie intellicode with the homelink?

    I get better mileage with 87 octane 13mpg than 92 octane 10 mpg. Will it hurt the engine if I switch back and forth?

    Drives real nice, this vehicle is a head turner or maybe they are looking at my wife.

    Thanks for replying.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I've programmed my genie intellicode guarage door opener with homelink. Try this:

    First erase your car's homelink memory (press two outside buttons at the same time for twenty seconds-- it'll blink fast when erased). Then program your guarage door remote transmitter to the homelink by holding down a homelink button and your remote at the same time (hold the remote at least 1/2 inches from the visor). THEN.. get up to the guarage door opener housing attatched to the guarage roof. Open the white casing where the light bulb is. On the lower right hand side there is a small black button that when pushed in makes a little red light blink. Once the red light is blinking you are in "code learning mode" and have 20 seconds to press the button on your homelink (car visor) that you previously programmed to your guarage door remote. Press it two to four times and your guarage should open/close. That should be all you have to do. If it still doesn't work check you car manual and call up homelinks 800 #. They were very helpful when I called.

    Has anyone had difficulty using homelink to open up their private community's access gates? My homelink works only about 50% of the time when I want to open my community gate. My community uses a Linear gate opening system. I'd appreciate any help from any radio frequency "experts" on how to improve my homelink
    performance.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    To those interested in buying or leasing a Navigator (or any Ford, Lincoln/Mercury product) check out the following site:

    http://fordcredit.com/redcarpetlease/

    Once there click on "finacial tools".
    It has a calculator for buying AND leasing through ford motor credit. You plug in the numbers and it gives you a monthly payment estimate based on the latest interest/rebate/incentive figures available. I plugged in my specific lease contract numbers and the monthly payment it gave me was within $25 dollars (over) what my payment is. The site does have a disclaimer stating that your payments may be lower depending on the dealership. It should give you a good "ballpark figure" as to what to expect if you lease.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    The buy/lease link above should read:

    http://www.ford credit.com/redcarpetlease/

    sorry about the typo above (I forgot the "WWW").
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    Typo again!

    The link should be:

    http://www.fordcredit.com/redcarpetlease/

    I'm new to this internet stuff. Please forgive!
  • ric1035ric1035 Posts: 32
    It works, my homelink works with the genie intellicode. Looks like the dealer is wrong again. Their head service advisor swears it was not compatible with any learning mode garage door openers. Thanks again.
  • ... plus: It's poorly-made.


    As I predicted years ago, Ford has finally admitted their SUV's are pieces of garbage.


    Do you know how many people have been killed in a Ford SUV? Countless.

    It's not surprising to believe no one here reads the newspaper.

    When will you people wake up and buy European or Japanese?

    Nevermind that they are all cheesy-looking nouveau-riche abortions-on-wheels--- Ford SUV's are deathtraps... and Chrysler and GM's are accidents waiting to happen.

    Get WITH it. Buy a Land Rover or a Nissan or Toyota-- and have peace of mind.
  • ric1035ric1035 Posts: 32
    Just wondering what you do own?
    You sound like a person that only buys used vehicles.

    I do own a Nissan and had to replace the engine at 87,000 miles. Land Rover dealers can only be found every 200 miles, so servicing and warranty repairs is an inconvenience. I also own a Toyota Avalon,you should check the Avalon topics for numerous unhappy owners.

    Your always going to find some imperfection when you buy anything new. Obviously you would not know since you buy it used.

    So far my Luxurious Navigator looks and drives beautifully.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I think I'll go out and buy a Land Rover, Nissan AND a Toyota tomorrow. Thanks for the helpful advice. I can't believe I've finally graduated to "Nouveau-riche" status! I'm driving over to mom's house to let her know of my updated status--gosh, I hope my "cheesy-looking abortion-on-wheels deathtrap" will get me there. Cross your fingers!
  • a_gala_gal Posts: 4
    HUMMM...an abortion on wheels?? That took thought...If you don't own a navigator, and you're obviously not in the market for one....what the heck are you doing in this forum?
  • You posted a couple of weeks ago about replacing your Jeep GC with a Nav. If you've done the deal you don't need to be told that the Nav fuel mileage is quite a bit less than a Jeep GC plus it burns the Hi Octane stuff. Our NAv with 10K on the odometer consistently gets 13.7 mpg with typical highway speeds of 65 to 70 mph. This drops to 10.5 mpg when towing our horse trailer. Our Jeep GC with the I6 and 186K on the odometer consistently gets 19-20 mpg but only 15 mpg when towing the horse trailer.

    Having said all that, you can't pry the Nav away from my wife. She won't drive the JGC unless she has to. The Nav is a damn nice truck, was put together well and tows very nicely.

    Good luck. Shop carefully. We used Edmunds data and knew exactly what we wanted when we went to the dealer. We named our price. It did not take them long - $500 over invoice and apparently no incentives at the time (Nov '99).
  • Hey wasn't Ayrton Senna killed in Navigator?
    oops! I'm wrong, it was one of those high priced "european" F1 cars. Something about a bad weld on a steering shaft.

    PS: How much is Bernie Ecclestone paying you? Remember, he passed The Queen on the "most wealthy" list. I would ask for a raise!
  • I just purchased a brand new 2001 Navigator about 2 months ago, and so far i love it! I have 4 kids the ages of 15,8,6,2 and they really like it. We got it loaded with every possible option on it and so far it has just been great. I really like how it's high and on here they say it's kind of hard to drive in and out of parking lots. My opinion of that is no, I park it where it isn't to busy and that really works. It is really easy to get in and out of and I just love it, If you are thinking about buying, BUY IT.... you won't regret it!
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