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Buick Rendezvous

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  • FYI - the high horsepower quoted on the Nissan VQ v6 is at a high rpm not normally used. I know, I have a 2000 Maxima 5 speed. Yes, I know how to drive. The low-RPM power of the motor is pretty dang weak, and I would take the 3400 for moving a heavy SUV over that VQ, even as old as the 3400 is. And its not bulletproof, there are people who are having O2 sensors burn out like mine in <12K miles and coil packs, etc. Buts not a bad motor, but its better suited to the Max or a lighter car.

    DD
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I wonder if it's tuned differently for the Murano.

    Couldn't Nissan adjust the timing for more low end torque at the expense of some breathing room up top?

    Or does it have VVT?
  • cfocfocfocfo Posts: 147
    Long time car shopper, now you guys have me looking at that Murano !!! I did some research on it today and I am going to test drive very soon.

    I like the gas mileage and it's roomy like the RDV, (I mean head & leg room roomy). No deals though.

    BTW, was it determined that there will be a 2004 RDV or Rainier or both for 2004 ?
  • kenymkenym Posts: 405
    Tim the Rainier is replacing the Olds Bravada for 2004. From what I understand Buick may also receive the Silhouette for 2004. They are not replacing the RDV just being added to the Buick line

    ~Ken
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Next generation GM vans will have a Buick version and the Rainier is an addition to the RDV, not a replacement. Pictures I have seen look pretty good.
  • cfocfocfocfo Posts: 147
    Edmunds lists the Rainier under the RDV as the future 2004 Future Vehicle.


    http://www.edmunds.com/new/buick/index.html

  • kenymkenym Posts: 405
    Tim scroll down to the bottom of my web page and check out the new Rainier. www.geocities.com/myersworld2001
  • dws41dws41 Posts: 12
    With about 8 inches of snow in NW New Jersey last Thursday, it gave me a chance to "test" how the Rendezvous handles in the snow.
    I was impressed!!! The ABS did exactly what it was supposed to do. The "4 wheel drive on demand" was magnificent... and could be used to "pull" the vehicle out of a skid (which was intentionally created on a back road).
    With the inclement weather, the car was impressive (although the MPG dropped from 20+ to 17- .)
    DWS41
  • netnerdnetnerd Posts: 117
    Hi,

    Just wanted to chime in that my '02 Rondy was incredible in the snow we got last Thursday here in Philly. We got about 8 inches. I had to drive from center city to a western suburb at 8:30 in the morning (then home again around Noon when they finally came to their senses and sent us home!). I felt so in control and so confident and safe. The all wheel drive was definitely working for me and I really could tell a difference between my driving experiences without it. The ABS has also performed well on icy patches.

    I LOVE THIS CAR!!!!
  • Just bought CLX 2 wheel drive with tow package. Went through this whole thing about whether it was really a chick car or not. Bottom line the truck has so much versatility for the value. I think it compares favorable to the Mercedes and BMW. Obviously lacks in horsepower but just came back from 500 Mile trip at 90 MPH the whole way. It has plenty. I have a ski boat and it pulls it just fine. (Live in Fla)
  • We're going through flash floods and drenching rains; as with the snow, the traction system is just great. While other vehicles are getting some slide action, my RDV is solid. I don't have to avoid flooded intersections like many of my friends do. Also not feeling any impact with windstorms. It's a very safe feeling while in hazardous conditions!
  • montreidmontreid Posts: 127
    Live out here in Northern California with the recent winds this past weekend and downpours. The tires gripped well, and despite 50MPH gusts, the RDV didn't move over like my Pathfinder did in the past. Clearance for those flooded intersections were not problem either.
  • I have been noticing a strange similarity between the audio systems in some General Motors vehicles. The CD changer that we have in our '02 CXL looks exactly like the ones advertised in Hummer H2 and Denali XL. The stereos in the latter two vehicles are Bose. Sound quality of the CXL system is superb. Do I dare to draw a parallel here? Click on the links and decide for yourself.


    H2

    http://www.hummer.com/hummerjsp/popups/h2/radio_popup.html


    Denali XL (click on stereo)

    http://www.gmc.com/gmcjsp/yukon/amenities/flash_denali.jsp


    CXL

    http://www.buick.com/zoom.html?rendezvous/rz030


    Regards,

    Taras

  • Hello! I'm new to the discussion, but I tune in pretty often. I have a question for anybody with stats or experience. How safe are the third row seats in the RDV. I like the size of the Envoy XL, but the miles per gallon of the RDV. Problem is the third seat seem pretty close to the tailgate. I would hate to lose a passenger for a few dollars in gas mileage. Thanks
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    While waiting for responses here, you may want to browse the Popular Third-row Car Seats May Kill Your Kids? discussion.

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  • Thanks for that sight, it is very helpful. Sounds like non of the mid-size suvs are very safe and I'm assuming the same stands true for the sports wagons as well. Would you recommend this type vehicle (crossovers) over the wagons such as the volvos, saabs or outbacks . We will do little if any off roading and the biggest concerns for extra seating is carpooling to sport practice with the kids and fuel economy with the constant changes of gas prices.
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    Anyone parents want to weigh in on the Rendezvous as a kid hauler?

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  • cfocfocfocfo Posts: 147
    I was asking the same question awhile back, about the saftey of the 3rd row seat. And an article came out in the USA today regarding that saftey. I will try and find the link, but the RDV was specifically mentioned, (8 inches from 3rd row headrest to the back glass). So no matter how careful you drive, it's alittle tense putting the little ones back there. If the guy behind you doesn't notice that the lights have changed, well ........
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    I bet this is it:



    Dangers lurk for kids in popular third-row seats (USA Today 3/01/02)


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  • cfocfocfocfo Posts: 147
    Looked at it again and remembered why I vetoed that third row !
  • Thanks again! Being a visual learner that I am, that video really put things in prospective. It's great that I saw that because my next thought was to look in the area of a full size suvs, but it's clear that the third row is not safe period. Do you think they will start rating the rear impact like they do with front in side any time soon or would it become to much of a cost factor for the car companies. It seems like it should be rated because most of the accidents I see are not head on, but somebody running into someone elses rear.
  • We wanted the third row, but don't use it very often. We have 2 girls and I insist that they sit in the middle row. We use the third seat for short trips jockeying around the kids friends.
    I would prefer never to use it, but unfortunately about 1% of the time, we must, and I still think that seat is safer than the back of an econo car.

    Jeff
  • Thanks Jeff, kind of sound like we are in the same boat. You got a good point about the econ car or no seats at all.
  • montreidmontreid Posts: 127
    Motore Trend's Rumour site has the RDV getting GM's new V-6 3.6L engine along with mild redesigns to the interior with that fake wood trim!

    "New Global V-6 Engine Family
    GM will also launch an all-new high-feature family of dual overhead camshaft V-6 engines, with a displacement range capable of 2.8 liter to 3.8 liter. Using advanced technology features in a well-refined, high-performance package, the new V-6 engines are intended to satisfy powertrain requirements for premium and high-performance vehicles across the world's automotive markets. The first member of the new global V-6 engine family to debut will be the 3.6-liter V-6. Producing 255 horsepower (190 kW) and 250 lb-ft of torque (339 Nm) (preliminary), the new V-6 delivers outstanding performance across an exceptionally wide segment of its powerband spectrum.

    Incorporating variable intake and exhaust valve timing technology, the new V-6's control system phases each of the engine's four camshafts for optimum starting, idle, low rpm torque and high rpm power. This enables drivers to experience impressive drivability and power while producing lower emissions and achieving greater fuel efficiency.

    Other features common to all engines in GM's new global V-6 engine family include all-aluminum construction, 4 valves per cylinder, roller-finger followers, electronic throttle control (ETC), durable forged steel crankshaft, special piston-cooling oil jets, coolant-loss protection software, GM's Oil Life Monitoring System, 32-bit microprocessor, coil on plug ignition and iridium spark plugs."
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I wonder if that would be the standard engine or just an optional one.
  • Hi y'all

    Proud to report that our Rendezvous performed simply amazing this past Christmas season. We got quite a bit of the white stuff here in central PA. Anyways, the trek over to grandmas house was as sure-footed as usual. Did not get stuck at all, the versa-trak worked flawlessly.

    Here's the real interesting part. As we were packing up to go home, two people and myself had to help push a Land Rover Freelander(my wifes aunts vehicle) out of the driveway!!?? Yes, it was in 4wd, and the driveway was tilted in such a fashion that it would benefit its extraction on its own accord. Our RDV pulled out of the driveway without assistance thankyou. I was beaming from ear to ear at this point. Rendezvous has been good to us for over 12,000 trouble-free miles now. Looking forward to many more.

    Happy holidays to all
  • I've been doing some searching around for a while and found a good document with a lot of info on the new engines, including application and total horsepower data which will be very interesting to read. Looks like the 3.6 should put out about 260 hp in the AWD format... oddly enough, the engine family can produce up to 370hp and 350lb of torque... and that's all natural aspiration.


    http://209.61.155.43/moframes/division/powertrain/press_kits/global_v6/docs/overview.htm


    ~Lance

  • montreidmontreid Posts: 127
    I bought this year! :( It was necessary though because our Volvo is nearing lease-end. Thanks Iswaidz, I was trying to find a good article, but could only find the smaller press releases.

    This should give a major "look-at-me" again to those critics...much like the redesigned Pathfinder got after its first engine got replaced.

    Dindak, I would hope that this would be class-wide instead of an option, thus bringing the entire class up (at least standard for the CXL, if not throughout).
  • As far as I can tell it's going to be a complete refit of the entire GM V6 series. GM has been using the same V6 design since, I think, the 60's. Overhead valves are going to be a thing of the past coming about 2006 fot GM which will be a good thing. Buick will also be introducing a minivan in 2007 since the Olds van will be history. Signs are pointing to a Rendezvous phase out sometime after 2007. With the Rainier in it's 3rd year of production and the new small SUV coming out in 2006, it seems the minivan will take the place of the RDV which doesn't really surprise since I don't think GM was very happy with the market penetration of the RDV. They had hoped a lot of people would opt for a RDV over a minivan but I think a lot of people found that the RDV just wasn't what it should have been so it seems the sliding doors will be the future of the RDV platform. Oh well, hopefully by the time the 2007 RDV comes out I'll be driving a Porsche by then anyway ;-)

    ~Lance

    ps - happy new years!
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I have seen nothing to suggest the Rendezvous will be phased out. The vehicle has attracted a lot of people who would not have bought a Buick/GM also. I highly doubt GM will get rid of it, sales numbers have been very good.
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