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Nissan Altima Hybrid

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  • Thanks for the advice. I still haven't decided what I am going to do yet. I went ahead and ordered another car. They could not find the car I ordered anywhere else. It will be here in the beginning of August. The wrecked car is still being fixed. Apparently the factory in Smyrna, TN that makes these cars was shutdown for 2 weeks for Yearly Summer Maintenance. That sucks for 2 reasons. 1) Delays the delivery of the new car. 2) Delays the delivery of the parts needed to repair the wrecked car. According to a news article I read out of TN, the factory should be back up an running the week of 7/9. If anybody with inside knowledge could confirm that date, I would appreciate it. Also, does anybody know if the cars that start rolling off the line after the shutdown are 2008s or 2007s?

    The dealer is starting to frustrate me. I've requested a loaner vehicle out of their used stock because I don't have a car right now. I happened to have sold my Jeep 2 days before my car was wrecked. They are only offering a loaner for 1 week. Why 1 week? If they can offer a loaner for 1 week, why not 2 weeks? Or whenever I take delivery of the car that I choose. So, now I'm having to pick which week is the most inconvenient week for me, and then maybe I'll get a loaner...It is their fault that the car was wrecked...ok maybe not, but its not mine. One of my friends told me that I should rent a car, hire a lawyer, and sue the dealer to recover the costs. That takes the game to a whole another level, and I really don't want to do that. I just want my freakin car! :mad:

    I don't know if I will take delivery of the wrecked car. I'm going to go check it out, drive it, and see what they offer. If they offer something outstanding I will think about it, but if they offer something weak I will just wait. Plus, the longer it takes to fix the wrecked car the closer it gets to August, and the new car being here.
  • langjielangjie Posts: 247
    even if they say it's going to be there by the beginning of august, it might be mid august when you get your new car. I highly doubt they will give you a much better price for that car....really sucks it was in an accident
  • The day after I got home with my hybrid, I remembered that no one had explained to me how the road service package worked, that I had read about in this blog and on Edmunds. My salesman told me that Nissan does not offer that, and that he was aware that the information was incorrectly listed on Edmonds.

    Did anyone get any information at a road service program?

    Also, I have terrible AM radio reception. Anyone else having that problem?
  • kannikanwokannikanwo Posts: 19
    Jaydee, I am in the Bay area and have been shopping for the tech package on the Altima Hybrid for about two months. $1,000 over invoice is the best offer I got out of Santa Cruz. The dealership with the most cars is Boardwalk and I have tried to deal on a tech package with them several times. Each time they would not move one the price even though the car I want is sitting on the lot, unsold for weeks.

    If you would like, we could perhaps contact Boardwalk together for something like $500 over invoice. Maybe they would be willing to move on two cars as they do seem to have a lot of slow moving inventory. If I were them, I would want to get rid of these before the 2008s arrive.

    Let me know if you are interested. marc_jiang@hotmail.com

    Regards
  • kannikanwokannikanwo Posts: 19
    Question for those who tested both the altima and camry hybrids: Is the altima that much noiser? I read a couple of reviews that said it was and a couple of others that said the sound insulation was good. What is your impression? Thanks.
  • langjielangjie Posts: 247
    you should just test the altima and see if it's an acceptable amount of noise.

    but in general, toyota's > nissan in the sound dampening department

    but nissan's are just so much more fun
  • craeziecraezie Posts: 1
    I am looking to purchase an Altima hybrid, but there are no models with leather in my colors in stock in all of California (and only a couple in ANY color with leather) If I can't get leather in this car it is going to be a deal breaker and I will go Toyota instead.

    One dealer I talked claimed to offer aftermarket leather, but another said that you CANNOT put aftermarket leather into Altimas, that Nissan does not recommend it and it will disable the side airbags. I personally think that they just want to sell you a $6k package--although at the moment they can't even do that! I can't find any of the normal companies (like Katzkin) that offer a leather interior package for 2007 Altimas. Is anyone aware of a company that offers this, or have they had aftermarket leather put in? If so, do they accommodate the airbags properly?
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    There are companies that make leather with break away stitching for airbags, but there is no guarantee they will work properly when needed.
  • terrriterrri Posts: 3
    I'm in So. Calif and just got my Altima hybrid yesterday - tech package. What color combo are you looking for? I researched it to death -- which is how I found this site.

    By the way, I just love my car! :D

    P.S. I got 'talked into' adding some type of dealer alarm system on the car, with a built in cut off switch, and worry it was a rip off after the fact. Any opinions?
  • langjielangjie Posts: 247
    you can order the car in the color combo you want
  • Indeed you can, but be prepared to wait for 6-8 weeks.
  • My dealer was all too happy to hook me up with leather interior through a company they use. In fact they made it part of the purchase price of the car so that I could include it with my loan.

    I have not had the leather installed yet and am going to call the company directly that does the work to see what they say about the airbag issue. I really wanted leather, but if it is a safety issue that will definately impact the re-sale value of the car, I will just tell them to give me my money back.

    Will keep you all posted.
  • emgremgr Posts: 109
    07's are no longer being built. They are now starting on the 08's. In the Altima, no design changes and other stuff is minimal. I put my order in in Early June and didn't want sunroof but told it would take much longer. There was a car in their pool that had everything I wanted plus the sunroof, So I took it. Hope to have my 07 Hybrid soon.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    The installation company is not going to say it is unsafe. They will says it should be fine. However, Nissan isn't going guarantee the airbags will work with the aftermarket seat covers and I'm sure the installer will not guarantee the airbags.
  • Are the '07 Altima Hybrid's no longer being built? Or just the conventional Altima's? The representative at the dealer I am working with said that they are continuing to make the '07 Hybrid, but some of the other vehicles on the same line are being switched over to '08. Can anyone confirm that the '07 Hybrid is being rolled to '08? This will greatly affect the financing being offered, and put me in a pickle because my 1st '07 was wrecked by the dealer. Now I'm waiting for a car that is supposed to be built at the end of July and be here at the beginning of August. Will that car be an '08 or an '07? Very important distinction.
  • emgremgr Posts: 109
    My dealer told me that 07's are no longer being built. fortunately there was an 07 in the pool that came close to what I wanted. Since what happened to your car was the dealer's fault, they should make good on the original offer even if it is an 08. But that is just my opinion.
  • My dealer told me that '08 Altima Hybrid's will start production in Mid-August.
  • emgremgr Posts: 109
    I was told that it was already in production. Right after the July 4th break.
  • johajoha Posts: 7
    I agree with auntieshoes that the city mileage is disappointing. I wonder if the engine computer on my car is out of whack, because it has the engine running almost constantly to keep the battery charged at 75-80 percent. In my understanding, the battery should be allowed to discharge to 20-25 percent before the engine kicks in to recharge. When the engine runs to keep the battery so highly charged, normal recharge through deceleration is wasted. Some postings claim that their Altimas will cruise at 30 mph on the battery alone. In mine, at any speed over 5 mph on the level, the engine runs. I would appreciate comment from others. The hybrid is not sold in MD, so I doubt that my local dealer can diagnose this.
  • Joha - I do think things will improve a bit over time, but I do not ever expect to get close to the 42 that was being touted by Nissan. I am learning to become a lot lighter in my touch when I see that the battery is being used, but most of the time I am just not patient enough to get the max benefit out of the hybrid. I am getting at least 50% better MPG's than I was with my 4 cylinder Accord.

    I have an embarrassing story to share, as sort of a warning to the rest of the NAH drivers. I went to the movies this weekend and I was running late. I parked the car, and grabbed my purse and got out, pushed the lock button on the door handle, heard 3 beeps which did seem odd, but I went on to the movie anyway. After the movie I went back to my car and I heard an engine running and looked to see if someone was sitting in the cars parked on either side of mine. Nope. It was my car running. I had forgotten to push the button to turn it off, and it sat in the parking lot running for 2 hours.
    My MPG's for this gas tank went down quite a bit so the A/C must have been on as well.
    And now I know what the car is telling me when it beeps 3 times!
  • hiwaymanhiwayman Posts: 98
    We've had our NAH (Tech Package) for about a month now. We too were disappointed with city mileage. In our experience, it's a combo of two things. Thing #1. We needed to retrain our right feet to drive hybrid style (gently, gently). Thing #2. The engine is very tight, and still breaking in. We've noticed as time has passed that the EV mode stays on for longer and longer (the ICE isn't fighting its internal friction as much as it breaks in). Early city mileage was in the high 20's (hiway mileage has always been dead on the EPA estimates of 36). As we've owned the car, the city mileage has crept up to low-30's. We live in hilly Northern California, so I seriously doubt we'll ever hit the overly optimistic 40+ figures, but the car is a good one. Nothing even hinting of regrets on this one!
  • kannikanwokannikanwo Posts: 19
    Dear all, I am on my first tank of gas and getting about 31-32 mpg based on mixed driving. I have not been disappointed in the mileage because I never expected 40 mpg. The 2008 EPA rating is about 34 mpg and that is what most driver's of the Toyota Camry Hybrid claim as achieving on average. The 40+ figures are probably unrealistic unless you drive in a manner, and in conditions, that are optimal for the hybrid.

    One thing I did learn and did not know before buying the hybrid is that short trips result in really crappy gas mileage. Apparently the engine needs to heat up properly to obtain optimal gas mileage so my first 5-10 minutes of driving typically result in pretty low fuel economy.
  • eqsf0226eqsf0226 Posts: 1
    I think you would need to get your altima checked up. With my altima i can get about 25mph without using the gas engine. BUT, i had also heard that some owners cant get above 10mph.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Is Nissan going to get a plug in hybrid like Toyota plans?
    It is supposed to let you drive several miles at street speeds on battery alone.
    Sounds ideal for people who have very short commutes.
    Just plug it in overnight for a short daily commute back and forth to work, train station or the park and ride lot. You would only use the gas motor if you need to take a long road trip at highway speeds or if you didn't plug it in to recharge.
  • hiwaymanhiwayman Posts: 98
    We've had our NAH for about a month now. When we first got it, the hiway miles were exactly as the EPA predicted (36 MPG) but the city miles were abysmal (in the high 20's). We asked our dealership what the scoop was. They told us that as the gas engine (ICE) breaks in and gets looser, the shift over point from electric to gas gets higher and higher on the MPH scale. Sounded like witchcraft to us, but our experience has been exactly that. At times, on a flat road, we now stay in EV mode until well into the 35 MPH range. Still, the city mileage isn't nearly as good as EPA's 46, but it is getting better.
  • hiwaymanhiwayman Posts: 98
    It's weird that you can't get leather. We had no trouble here in Northern California. You DO need to pungle up the bucks for the reasonably expensive Technology Package, but you can get it (it comes in blonde and black). Our dark grey car came with black leather. Oddly enough, the headliner is beige. We thought there'd been a mistake at the factory, but have seen other cars set up the same way...
  • hiwaymanhiwayman Posts: 98
    We've had our Nissan Altima Hybrid for a little over a month now. Occassionally, lately, when we press the button to start the car, the car gets to the point where all the instrument lights and warning indicators come on, and then everything freezes. No further activity takes place, until we press the button to turn the car off, and then press the button again (somewhat like Nissan's version of CTL-ALT-DEL for rebooting a PC. Anyone else experiencing this?
  • langjielangjie Posts: 247
    EPA is 42/36
  • hiwaymanhiwayman Posts: 98
    Sorry...Typo
  • langjielangjie Posts: 247
    no problem...but i didn't want you to get disappointed with unobtainable EPA numbers
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