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2001 - 2006 Honda CR-Vs

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  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,784
    "I love the rear gate, but do use the swing up window to load into the back just as often."

    Funny, except for accidentally opening the hatch with my remote FOB, I seldom use it.

    Of course, there was the time when the car was packed to the ceiling in the cargo area, and I wanted to pack in a bit more - I opened the hatch and stuffed more things in there...
  • OK, so I am sold on the 05 model. My question to the sages' of CR-V land is... How reliable and maintenance free is the 4 wheel drive system? The last time I got a two wheel drive vehicle(all I drive)stuck was about 20 years ago. The main reason I was shopping for an 04 EX was for ABS but that is no longer valid with the 05 update. I am not that concerned with the extra bucks for AWD,but I am if it presents long term maintenance and risk.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,784
    ". I am not that concerned with the extra bucks for AWD,but I am if it presents long term maintenance and risk. "

    I'm afraid it is a bit of a risk, though fairly low. The 2004 model has a mechanical system that has been in use for many years. The new drive system is of a different design, and is supposed to be faster to engage.

    If this is a big concern for you, I suspect you can get some great deals on the 2004 model in the next couple of months.
  • And I need to add: the rear swinging tailgate helped with my CR-V purchase decision because that is where I am going to mount my Mountain bike(s).
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,889
    Well now.. If you had the first generation CR-V, you would be opening that hatch glass all the time... Because you have to, before you can open the tailgate.. I guess that is why I still use the hatch glass a lot... I got used to it on the old one.

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  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    Did you test drive or even research this vehicle before you bought it?

    From your numerous posts it is obvious you are not happy with it. Life is too short to be unhappy. Either deal with what you bought or get rid of it.
  • We are planning an 05 purchase, and the swinging tailgate was a deciding factor. I am 5' on a good day and have a great deal of difficulty with the swing up doors on many models!
  • Personally I love the way the back door opens. My garage door into my house opens on the left and the door of the V opens perfectly so that I can load and unload my cargo without walking around in a tight garage. As to rain drips, well, our old Voyager had a lift hatch and the water dripped off the bottom of the hatch on to my back every time I opened it in my lovely, wet state of OR. That got old really fast. I was out in the pouring rain loading and unloading my V today and it was much nicer not to get the water on my back (other than from the rain falling from the sky)

    One disappointing thing happened on my road trip last week. On the freeway in WA. a car in front of us hit a rock, and it flew up and hit my windshield with such force that I thought we had been shot at. Now I have a nice little hole in my new windshield. Made a call to insurance today.....only 2200 miles and already talking to insurance. Sheeeeezzzzzzzzzzz!
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    only 2200 miles and already talking to insurance.

    Sorry to hear that. Don't feel too bad though - I've heard countless tales of people getting a fender smashed pulling out of the dealer's lot just after having taken delivery of their pride and joy.

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  • I only post occasionally when I can help folks out (as I did for Julia a week or so ago), but I've got to respond to this so I'm sorry this isn't my usual helpful post.

    Jesus Christ, Julia. Did you even look at the dang car (let alone drive it) before you bought it? It's one thing to complain about fires that you didn't know about, but it's a whole other issue to complain about road noise or rear door design since those things are more than obvious with little more than a cursory examination of the vehicle and a simple test drive.

    It's more than obvious you do not enjoy your vehicle and that is too bad. My wife and I are plenty happy with our 2003 EX. Yes, there are some things that aren't ideal (lift gate swinging to the right instead of the left due to its Japanese heritage), but compromise is part of life and we recognized that BEFORE we bought the vehicle.

    The more you complain about items like this, the more you show how little forethought went into your purchase and the more you show your opinions regarding the CR-V not to be worthy of consideration. As Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) said "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    All of the above is just my humble opinion of course.

    While I'm at it, I just wanted to say thanks to varmint, atexeira, isellhondas, and the other frequent posters for their continued contributions. I may not agree with them all the time, but the diversity of qualified opinions is what makes these Honda boards great.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The Voyager must have been poorly designed. Most lift gates route water to the drains and don't spill it on you.

    I like having the rain cover for times when you need to do a quick diaper change, stuff like that. Like I said, the CR-V does have the glass.

    Really the Element is ideal because it gives you a small tail gate platform to work on plus some rain cover. Honda was even thoughtful enough to cover the seam so things don't spill out.

    It's like deja vu all over again. Another carbon copy article.

    -juice
  • bshelbshel Posts: 232
    Kath, I felt the same - mine had just turned 200 miles in the 3 weeks I had it (March04) and some ice pummeled the V falling from several trees above on this back road to work. It sounded like a war zone, and I'm lucky there was no more damage than the chip a big chunk caused hitting the windshield smack in my line of sight. Got it repaired the following week.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    I had a windshield replaced within two months as well. It was a small rock chip, but it happened smack dab in the middle of my line of sight. My insurance covers these hits at no charge. I'm told that most do.

    As for the door, I prefer the 2nd gen design over the one I have. With the door and glass moving as one, it makes loading easier. I'm very happy that they left the lift glass though. I'm another who uses it all the time. It's terrific for dog owners.

    As for the swing-gate design, that is a problem for some. And the fact that it swings open to the "Japanese side" presents a problem for curb-side loading. On the other hand, have the opening on the driver's side makes life so much easier when you just want to grab something from the back. As Kathgip noted, you don't have to walk around the door to get things in the cargo area. That makes a huge difference when you have a garage.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,889
    The nice thing about the old design: It gives you great visibility out of the rear of the vehicle. Having a frameless glass area was really great. I miss that, but I still don't want the old style door. I think, as noted above, that the main reason for the swinging tailgate, is because of the spare tire position (another thing I like).

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  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    The current RT4WD design has been more or less flawless. In the four or five years I've been active in internet communities like this, I've never once read about a mechanical failure with that design. The only problem is the fact that the fluid needs to be changed more often than Honda recommends.

    That said, the 2005 models have a brand new design. They have switched to a cam-driven system, rather than the hydraulic pump system in the current vehicles. So there is no history, yet.
  • juliajulia Posts: 73
    "...but it's a whole other issue to complain about road noise or rear door design since those things are more than obvious with little more than a cursory examination of the vehicle and a simple test drive".

    Yes. I did test drive. The one I tested is not that noise. But it pulls to the right. It still pulls to the right even after alignment. So dealer changed to me another car which is the one I got. I only got a chance to test whether it drives straight or not in rash hour traffic with the air conditioner on at MAX by the sales person. So there is no way and no opportunity to notice the road noise. I waited salesperson for sometime and then I was rushed for the time (close to their closing time at evening). Then I assume all new cars are the same. But now I know the CR-V performance between car to car is NOT the same (at least to the road noise).

    The car I got has been sat in dealer's lot for a couple of months (I found it out later). It can tell by very dirty or stains in many area. It was at 25mile before I tested it. The 1st one (the one pull to the right) only got 3 miles. The service record (I found it out after my first service) shows some activity in June, 2004. It leads me to think maybe someone tried and did not want that car for some reason.
    Yes. I admit that I did not pay attention to the back door.
    But after the experience for these two new CR-V cars, it is hard to believe the "Honda quality" on CR-V.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,625
    Hey, Julia...

    I'm curious...is there ANYTHING you like about your CRV??
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,889
    No offense intended, but if you had done 10% of the amount of research you have done after purchase, before purchase, then you would have known all of this already.

    You were on the prices paid board for a week before you bought, but all of this info was on the other boards the entire time. They have been talking about the fires for at least 4-6 months.

    All of the info you have posted about the terrible service and the condition of the cars at your dealer... was all readily available and visible to you, before you bought.

    As near as I can tell, the only problem YOU have, is that your car pulls to the right.. If that bothers you enough, I suggest selling it.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,625
    She should sell it. She has complained non stop since she bought it. The dealer even replaced the first one because she said it pulled to the right.

    Then she complained because the replacement was dirty etc...

    Then, somehow, she's discovered the news about the (VERY RARE)fires and she's in a tizzy over that.

    The road noise is THE SAME between CRV's. I agree, they are a bit noisy but it's hardly a "problem" either.

    I know we sure love our 2003 EX! My wife's favorite car of all time!

    Probabl best for Julia to move on. Life is short.

    But...move on to WHAT ??
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,889
    And so do I.. it is a fine vehicle.. And re-sale on CR-Vs is excellent... My uncle bought a Highlander last month and got a great deal! Life is too short to be unhappy.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,625
    Could be Buyer's Remorse that she didn't buy the HL in the first place.

    These are about mid-sized between a Pilot and a CRV.

    She better read the Highlander boards first, however. ALL makes will have unhappy customers!
  • bshelbshel Posts: 232
    Julia, perhaps a domestic vehicle?

    I really enjoy my CR-V, and have had all Honda's. I am dragging my feet some to get the oil changed, and I'm not driving under severe conditions, so I'm keeping on eye out for any developments/possible recalls. I find this forum to be quite valuable in gaining the latest news.
  • juliajulia Posts: 73
    Hey, Julia...

    I'm curious...is there ANYTHING you like about your CRV??

    Well, yes. I do LIKE the rear leg room and the rear seat recliner. The high "safety score" (do not know whether is still SAFE - risk of engine fire) with side airbag, rear leg room, Honda brand are the main reasons for the CR-V purchase.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,134
    but the diversity of qualified opinions is what makes these Honda boards great.

    There seems to be a lot of piling on going on in here that would tend to make more objective types refrain from making constructive critisisms.

    And it seems that an owner, even a recent one, is qualified to complain about their car. Especially when some stuff isn't always readily apparent on the usual test drives that most people take (road noise, rain drips, etc.).

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,625
    Just a discussion, that's all.

    Just because a car pleases the vast majority of the people who buy it does not mean every owner will be 100% happy.

    And I honestly believe that if a person is VERY unhappy or has constant worries about the possibility of troubles that for their sake, it just may be prudent to simply move on if they can.

    No car will please everybody. The rear tailgate is a perfect example of this. What some people think is a great design, others will think it should have been designed differently.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,134
    Just a friendly reminder that Town Hall welcomes all points of view on automotive matters. Just so long as it's civil.

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  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    << These are about mid-sized between a Pilot and a CRV. >>

    We recently traded in my wife's 2001 Accord for a new Highlander. She wanted an SUV, easier for her to get in and out of, and she sits up higher. She wanted something bigger than a CRV, since I already have one, but not as big as the Pilot. So we bought a Highlander, an excellent choice for what we were looking for.

    << She better read the Highlander boards first, however. ALL makes will have unhappy customers!
    >>

    Exactly, there's a few over in that vehicles "Problems & Solutions" board, some of the common complaints are hesitation and the brakes.
  • juliajulia Posts: 73
    isellhondas
    By the way, now I know you are selling Honda. So I question what you were telling truth in your posts on the price board or trying to fool newcomers (I did believe you then):
    You said you paid for $500 over the invoice for your wife 2003 CR-V.

    Hard to believe it as you SELL Honda yourself.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,134
    Enough - we're here to talk about the cars, not cast aspersions on each other.

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  • juliajulia Posts: 73
    Yes. I made a mistake for did not read the other boards other than the price board. Because it is HONDA and I trusted it. If I did, then I would not buy it. That is why I said I over trusted Honda. But I did not read the other board does not substitute the obligation of some sort of warning/information from Honda/Dealer. As not 100% American has computer or online.
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