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It will be interesting to see how the 4 cyl engine is vs the V6. With gas prices where they are, I'm almost tempted to go 4 cyl. if performance is acceptable.
The VUE will weigh only slightly more than a L-300 and as such the acceleration will be near the top of its class. Just don't try to tow much!
Assuming the CVT works out as planned the 4 cyl will have gas milage unheard of before in an SUV. I'm thinking around 35 on the highway. (How do you like them apples?)
The SUV will be sold as quickly as we get them until February. This is because they will ONLY make 8000 units available nationwide between December and February. Yes this means it won't be released until December.
I will test both the 4 and the 6, but I'm still leaning 6 for now.
As for CITY milage I would estimate 25 for the CVT.
As for which retail facility I work at - read my profile. (Saturn doesn't call em dealerships)
As for the Vue, I'm glad they are taking their time with it. That being said, I am shocked as to how much time. At the auto show, the sales person said September/ October
It doesn't say where I work I know. What I am saying is that I will not tell you where I work.
Unpatiently waiting.
L
1. How attractive is the interior compared to the Tribute's?
2. How reliable are Saturn products? How about build quality in terms of rattles and fit and finish.
I have to admit I have never considered Saturn before since it's a GM product and I don't have much faith in GM quality. (or Ford's or Chrysler's for that matter)
BTW, I do have lingering concerns about the Tribute. They have supposedly fixed all the recall problems. But now people in the other discussions are talking about rust in the underbody components. I mean, have they really cut corners for this vehicle? I examined the Tribute at the auto show quite thoroughly, and IMHO, the interior seems flimsy. ie. door panels, door levers, dash, cupholders.
As for the VUE, The interior is not luxurious, but it is very well laid out. The space was impressive, as were the exterior looks. Build quality will likely be above average as it will be asembled in Spring Hill. I think Saturn had some bugs in it's first year of LS production, but the SL models have been mostly trouble free. The launch of the VUE has been pushed back to late 2001 as they are really trying to make sure this SUV is trouble free.
If you are looking for more space than your CR-V, I think the VUE is a great step up.
The internal height of the cargo area (i.e. load floor to the roof)
Height is approximately 800mm (31.5 inches).
The length of the cargo area (from the back of the driver's seat to the hatch)
Length behind the first row of seats is approximately 1400mm (55 inches).
There will be more information about the "On the Inside" in mid-May
Hope this helps.
(I have incredible copy/paste skills)
Also, when the Vue is initially released, will the 4/CVT models be available, or will they be delayed until the initial "teething pains" are worked through on the other models. What are the reliability predications with this new transmission as well.
Just trying to get some of my ducks in a row.
You should never buy a GM vehicle in its first year of production, and that includes Saturn.
Let Saturn sell a few VUEs to the people who need to be the first on their block, wait for the automotive press to rip the VUE to shreds, give Saturn time to fix some recalls, and then when Saturn is all beaten-down and humbled, buy your new VUE.
GM has used the same product cycle since the fifties; first year - alot of hype and disappointment, second year - apologize and try to bring the customers back, third year - fix the problems and sell a good vehicle. Final year, when the vehicle is at its best, kill it; remember the Cadillac Allante, Pontiac Fiero, '96 Impala SS, 2002 Camaro, etc.
If you're in a real hurry, buy a RAV4. I hear they're good.
gpolt ; Aztek is a first year and it's been fine. Still, I agree.. it's a bit of a risk regardless of manufacturer.
The Aztek may be a good vehicle, but it has been crucified in the press for its looks. I don't think it deserves such a bad rap but in America (and maybe in Canada), image means everything and the Aztek is an example of a new vehicle that, through no fault of its own, is ripped to shreds by the automotive press. Okay, I admit it's hideous.
If the VUE isn't flawless from day one, don't expect less from Car & Driver, et al.
My local Pontiac dealer had only one Aztek on the lot last September and it was marked-up $1500 over list for LOA (lack of availability). He now has plenty of availability for Azteks that nobody wants.
I've bought a bunch of new cars and I've never been sorry that I waited a couple of years to let the bugs work out, or for the price to cool off. That includes Toyota.
Example: One of my Army buddies paid $25,000 (about $10,000 over sticker) for a 1990 Miata because it was the first one in town.
Let the suckers buy the first one in town, regardless of the brand.
I haven't looked closely the new RAV4, but last year model has cheap plastic and odd looking exterior to me. Don't care about the weird rear of the CR-V, or the tall box Forester.
The Escape is a nice car, but until Ford is serious about building quality cars, they will not succeed in the long term. Toyota and Honda are eating their lunch.
Let's just hope that Saturn will get it right the first year out.
Steve
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Well you FAILED!!!
1500 lbs for the 4 cyl
2500 for the 6 cyl
They are going to take their time to (hopefully) ensure initial quality is high.
In otherwords, that salesperson wasn't feeding you a line of B.S.
We have taken many deposits already at our store.
Any idea about Canadian allocations? I probably won't be looking until the spring, just curious.
Hard to believe but yes people are putting down deposits with no pricing info, and no idea about equiptment ect. We have over a dozen deposits.
I had a lady who was interested in the VUE or the Acura MDX. I asked her if she could easily afford the MDX. She said yes. I told her to go and buy one as it was way nicer than the Saturn by a long shot. She wouldn't hear of it and gave me a deposit and went on the waiting list. Go figure....
What I mean is I don't know if Saturn isn't advertising the info I have or they don't want peope to know yet.
I can tell you this. If its as good as I read then the biggest problem will be making enough to meet demand and keep quality as high as they plan.
There is plenty of life in Saturn
I don't know if this would affect to Saturn VUE. So you might want to ask the dealer about the Towing.