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Buying a Used Sienna

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  • loucapriloucapri Posts: 214
    Carfax's +/- market is a joke. You will see some one owner vehicle has -$100.00 or 4 owners vehicle has +$200. There +/- market is all over the map. The worst I have seen was one "accident" "airbag deployed" car has a +.

    Go figure.

    My rule for a used car is like this: take 50% off from orginial price (NEW) for every 5 years. If a new 2011 Sienna LE sell for $30K right now, a 2006 LE should be around $15000 (of course you do make adjustment on overall condition, miles and who is selling the car).

    KBB works for the seller, not the buyer. Don't buy 1 or 2 years old USED car unless you get good deal. If you look around, you will notice a 2009, 2010 Sienna still ask for high number, sometime even close to 2011's pricing.

    Don't waste time buying from small auto broker (unless you have a small budget), they get cars mainly from auction (meaning no body wants to keep those cars at the beginning).

    I have good experience picking up used car from Lexus, Toyota and Nissan dealership. 1) most of the cars they got are from trade, 2) if they sell it themself, it means the cars are worth keeping, otherwise, they just send it to auction.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,936
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  • dillydilldillydill Posts: 76
    I posted in the RWTIV about a used 2007 LE that I am going to look at this weekend, hopefully.
    It seems that used prices of 2007-8's are in the high teens to low 20's.

    After looking at Zag it appears I can get a new 2011 LE for about 27K plus TTL.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on comparison between the two?
    After searching it seems that more people are preferring their older models over the new one.

    I think I am now leaning towards a new one.
    Interested to hear what others are thinking.

    Here is the 2007 private sale asking 15K

    Mileage: 50000
    Color: Gray/ Gray cloth
    The online listing says Automatic Transmission, ABS, Alloy Wheels, Power seat, Cruise Control, Parking/Backup Sensor
    Power Sliding Doors, DVD System with remote and two wireless headsets.
    6 CD MP3/CD AM/FM Stereo System, Premium JBL 12 Speaker system. Privacy Glass, Roof Rack, 7 Passenger seating.

    New Brakes,New Tires, Fully Maintained and Serviced. Moving Must sell.

    I contacted private seller and he gave me a link to carfax and said he is second owner.

    http://www.carfax.com/cfm/FSBO.cfm?report=5820ABA22973721618D5193565CD3CDC

    Thanks
  • loucapriloucapri Posts: 214
    You have to ask yourself 1st how much you want to spend, 2nd, how long you plan to keep the car.

    We had 04 LE AWD and ready to get a 2011 XLE AWD, within our budget and plan to keep for many years but I end up cancelled my order. Reason 1), really don't feel the interior quality on the 2011, 2) didn't have the same excitiment compared to buying our 04 back then (kind of telling me something is not right) 3) see the 04-2011 has better value.

    So we went back and look for a 2006 Limited Sienna, cost less, better equip (over the 2011 XLE we were looking at). well, at the end, we ended up buying a 2007 Highlander AWD :)
    WHY? We still like to move to the new sienna but not on the 2011, maybe in a year or 2 when they make some improvement (hopefully) and we know the HL will hold the resale better since we only plan to keep it for a year or 2.

    In your case, if LE is what you are looking for, and money is not a factor, go with 2011, newer and has warranty. Your listing if is LE, not sure you can get factory DVD and JBL 12 speakers? I will see it in person to confirm :)
  • dillydilldillydill Posts: 76
    Thanks for the post Lou. Honestly, I don't want to spend any money ;). We usual keep our cars until they are well over 100K miles.

    We have had our current 99 Sienna XLE for almost 8 years. We bought it used from a family member with about 65K miles and now it has 165K. Little things like the power door not closing properly for the last 5 years has been wearing on the Mrs. Every door handle has had to be replaced including the rear hatch. Currently, the passenger side door handle needs to be fixed. The check engine light says we need a need o2 sensor. A lot of the radio buttons have fallen off, but I got some Mighty Mendit and glued them back on finally.

    It still runs well. . . but my wife would like to have an mp3 input and Middle windows that go down. Oh, and doors that work. :)

    I started looking at 07 and 08 LE's because they should fit the bill. My wife would miss the sunroof of our current van but she will be thrilled with something new to her.

    A brand new 2011 seems to be only 10K more than these 3- 4 year old used ones. It would be a little bit of a stretch to get the new one, but we would have a warranty and maintenance for 2 years covered.

    I have yet to see the 2011 interior in person.
  • loucapriloucapri Posts: 214
    If you haven't seen the 2011 interior yet and want to go that route, my suggestion is NOT to check out too many 2004-2010 Sienna. Jumping from 04-10 to 2011+, you WILL disappointed with the interior quality. The 1 thing good about the 2011+ is the outside, new style. Sounds like you keep your van for long time, again, may as well go with 2011+ LE (it comes with mp3, 2 power doors)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    CR lowered the score for the new model, so you're not the only one to feel that way.

    I'd probably look at a CPO 2010 if I were shopping today.

    Funny thing is CR docked the Odyssey's score also. Both were downgraded.
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,732
    We went shopping for a 2011 LE, and ended up with the CPO '08 LE. Realize that our last 9 car purchases have been new vehicles, so buying uses was a new experience for us.
  • dillydilldillydill Posts: 76
    Please share the details :) and the reasons behind it. Thanks.
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,732
    Sorry, didn’t see your note before now.

    My wife is the primary driver of the van, so her preferences carry a lot of weight. Our first preference was another Honda Odyssey, having had an excellent ownership experience with our ‘02. We didn’t even get out of the parking lot with the new style ’11. She hated everything about it, particularly the exterior styling and the impact of those windows on drivers visibility. Next up was a CPO 2010 Ody, but the price was high and she didn’t like that the rear quarter windows are fixed. She frequently leaves them open to vent the van.

    So now off look at others. The Kia Sedona felt too truck-like. It’s just not as refined. We drove an LE and XLE 2011 Sienna. They were both pretty nice, but there were issues with quality of materials, fit & finish, price, etc. She hated the way the middle seats move, and just couldn’t master folding them. The tracks look like a real liability. We’ve also been burned on ‘first year’ models before, and so when we looked at the recalls and owner comments were a little bit worried about the potential for problems.

    Finally we tried a CPO van (I think it was an 8 passenger ’08). It had the most ‘familiar’ feel to her, and hit all the right buttons (look, feel, function, etc.). It took a tri-state search and some driving to find the best deal (we wanted a 7 passenger), but ended up with a ‘drives like new’ CPO ’08 LE with 20k miles for $19k. We added a Platinum warranty to that to be sure it was a good choice.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good choice...
  • dillydilldillydill Posts: 76
    Thanks for the informative post. Good stuff. I appreciate it.
  • mco1950mco1950 Posts: 1
    I am waiting for the new Toyota sienna 2012 and I want to know when is arriving
    And what is new if is any changes
  • lxowner2lxowner2 Posts: 51
    Toyota's website has a release on the 2012 Sienna. It says the price increase is negligible (except for the SE model which went up about 2K), and that there are no significant changes from the 2011 model. Which means no interior upgrade or MPG improvement as rumors have it. Do you think you will get 4K off the sticker on a 2012 when it comes out?
  • hp2009hp2009 Posts: 65
    if you are not in rush for sienna then wait for 2012....my friend who worked in sales told us that interior will be changed with more quality....dealer will make u buy 2011 ...they will never tell truth about 2012 model since they donot get any special rebate or hold back on new models...same as cust no special apr and 1st 3 months....most 2012 models goes for msrp price (every models )

    thanks
    hp
  • bravojunkiebravojunkie Posts: 5
    edited August 2011
    From Toyota's Aug 8, 2011 press release:

    All-new in 2011 model year, the Sienna van carries over virtually unchanged. Pricing for the Sienna will range from $24,520 for the front-wheel-drive Base grade to $40,570 for the all-wheel-drive Limited, reflecting an overall increase of $174 or 0.5 percent. Prices for the 2012 Sienna will go into effect beginning with the start of production on September 6.

    They have a table in the PDF that lists the new MSRPs and shows how much of a increase there is for each vehicle.
  • i have the oppt to get a 2006 sienna xle limited which has 74000 miles on it. the inside is in very good condition-and the outside is also good.

    my question is what should I pay for it? my trade is a joke-I am still driving a 1993 Taurus Wagon with 125 k miles. overall my wagon runs well-the engine is good but I do not want to put any more $$ in repairs -the rust on the sides and underneath is getting bad. To get $1 k for it is good. with that said- Edmunds is a saying that a 2006 XLE Limited at 74,000 miles trade in value is from $14,300 to $16,800.00
    The dealer wants about $19 k. so what should I pay for this Van? lets say they gave the owner $16 k for this XLE -i would say thta to offer $18 K IS PLENTY. I get $1k for my wagon and buy this van for $17 k or is that too much-shoot for $16 k?

    Hope you can help me with my questions. Much apprecited!
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,732
    Question #1 is do you really need an XLE Limited. It was an expensive van to begin with, so it drives a higher resale value. Could you live with an LE, or is that just too stripped for you? I ask because if you go back a few posts you'll see that I bought a Certified 2008 with 20k miles for slightly under $19k earlier in the season. A full year bumper to bumper, and lots of time left on that 7 yr / 100k powertrain warranty.

    The 2012's are about to roll out, and resale on used vans takes another step down. 2+ years older, relatively high miles, not much warranty (assumed). To me, that's a lot of money for more van than I have a need for.
  • fibber2, thank you so much for you help on this forum. I'm also looking for a used 08. I'm wondering if the price you paid includes the "all fee" charged by dealer? If yes, how much is it? Thank you very much.
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