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Toyota Camry Vehicle Stability Control



  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    To turn off the traction control, yes I'm almost certain. But you only need to turn it off if you can't get the car in motion from a dead stop or to accelerate up a steep driveway.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    No, there is NOT a switch to turn off VSC (at least that is a 2007 statement, can't imagine they changed it in 2008).

    There is a secret serious of steps which can be taken at startup, which turns the VSC off for that possible snow scenario. I have it printed and keep in the car, but we talked about it probably a year ago in these forums.

    It's something like put the key in, put on the parking brake, turn the key once, turn off the brake,....yada yada yada. I don't remember exactly, but it's something that you just want to print and keep in the car. I've never had to do it. Turning off the engine and restarting, automatically resets the VSC back on.

    I can get the instructions and re-type them later if a search doesn't yield the instructions.
  • iplanetiplanet Posts: 27
    Hi Kiawah,

    So would you recomend VSC in Camry LE? I'll have to wait few weeks for LE w/ VSC.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    I'm in the southeast, and even though this is not a typical feature in the southeast....I specifically had the dealer order it for me because my daughter is the primary (new) driver, and there is a more than reasonable chance that this vehicle ends up back in the northeast.

    To me it's a safety feature that I hope never gets invoked (and because I've paid for it probably won't), and it's a feature that will become standard and gov't mandated in the next couple years. I got it for safety, but resell certainly is a potential consideration as well.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Your salesperson is confusing the TC, Traction Control, function with VSC. Traction control can be a DAMN nuisense, which is why most cars have a traction disable capability.
  • iplanetiplanet Posts: 27
    Since Camry doesn't have TC disable capability, how bad is it in the snow condition?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    If you get stuck the TC will generally prevent you from using wheelspin to get out.

    Look at it this way, if you're in a situation wherein carefully "feathering" the throttle yourself, in order to maintain traction, would not get you moving then TC will be of no help, a hindrance really.

    Basically that's all TC is, an artificial method of preventing the engine from developing so much torque that wheelspin results.

    If a driven wheel slips due to low roadbed surface traction TC will apply braking while simultaneously dethrottling the engine.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    I checked a Camry owner's manual and Kiawah is right -- you cannot disable stability or traction control in the 2007 (and presumably the 2008) Camry with the press of a button. My bad.

    But my advice is still to get VSC (and the traction control) that goes with it. You're not likely to get stuck in a front-wheel drive car in the first place. Plus you can disable the VSC/TC if you must using the "magic formula" Kiawah mentions.

    Much more importantly, VSC can save your bacon. Read this for more details.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Figure it's easier to just re-type this, than find the previous post.

    To disable the VSC on the 07 Camry.......
    1.) Start the car with parking brake on.
    2.) all within 30 seconds, depress and release the brake pedal twice.
    3.) immediately, de-activate and re-engage the parking brake twice.
    4.) the VSC/trac light on the dash will light, the VSC/trac is now deactivated until you restart the car.

    I've driven in ice storms with the car with no problem, but never large snow drifts where you would actually "want" to spin the tires (for some unknown reason). I've never had to ever turn the VSC off.

    Don't remember who the original poster was, to give proper credit. Just print these instructions out and keep them in your owners manual.
  • iplanetiplanet Posts: 27
    Hi all.

    Thanks for all the input ~

  • The lights: Brake ABS VSC Trac OFF (no engine light) just started coming on in my 2003 LE V6 a couple weeks ago. Local private mechanic could not find a hard code so I called the dealer. I was told to check the gas cap, take it off and put it back on, sometimes the sensor inside is set off by vapors or something. It did sound funny when I took the cap off, but the lights came back on again anyway. So..... I took it to the dealer and they blessed me with an explanation that it's the VSC computer in need of replacement for about $1780+ Hahaha. Ridiculous since I only have 25K miles on it!! Now we'll see if it stops coming on. Others on a tundra forum or someplace have had this same series of lights come on.. BTW, I Was told it was still safe to drive. Just don't count on brakes not locking up in a skid or very hard braking. :confuse:
  • Had the same problem with my 2003 XLE. My problem turned out to be a bad rear (inner) disc pad. I found this out when I changed all the pads on the car. The lite(s) that were on were the VSC and TRAC OFF. Auto Zone can check only " CHECK ENGINE " lites. Usually wheel speed sensors can also go bad. I found a mechanic on CRAIGSLIST that was able to pull the code(s) - had 13 of them!! My lites were on for about 3 months.He then reset it and the problem has not returned. Cost of pads $64.00 (my labor). :)
  • Hey guys,

    I have a 1998 XLE V6 Toyota Camry with 103K miles, and the following dashboard lights went off today:

    Trac OFF

    Is there any connection to BOTH of these lights going on at the same time? How much am I looking at it getting fixed? I read on another posting that disconnecting the negative battery cable might help reset it, is this worth a try?


  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    You reset the light, AFTER you fix the problem.

    Check your brake pads and wheel sensors.
  • The solutions I've read are all pretty interesting because it confirms my dealer was trying to rip me off. Even more interesting is the fact that the lights have NOT come back on since I returned from the dealer (10 days ago) telling me I needed a $1780 replacement of the VSC computer. So I'd have to say removing and replacing the gas cap earlier that day fixed the problem!! I filed a defect complaint with the NHTSA since the '03 car has only 25K miles. Toyota marketing rep has called and said Toyota will not support any repairs. HA! Nothing broken! No more dealers or toyotas for me. :mad:
  • VSC/TRAC ENGINE LIGHTS have nothing to do with the gas cap.It is a completely different system than a CHECK ENGINE lite on.. :surprise:
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Methinks you may be a tad wrong...

    Whenever there is a CEL the VSC/trac system is automatically disabled by default. Fix the CEL, in this case the gas cap, and both the CEL and VSC/Trac lights will go off.
  • I 'm not sure about that. Had a problem with my 2003 XLE where the VSC and the TRAC OFF lites were on for several months.When I tried checking for codes with an ACTRON CP9175 OB11 Scanner it showed no codes present.The CEL does not have anything to do with the brake system.Went to Auto Zone where they said the same.
    Pep Boys could not pull any codes. They to said that they did not have the correct type of scanner .
    When I changed all the disc pads, I noticed the the right rear inner pad was was all "chewed up".I too was told to disconnect the battery, check the gas cap, check the brake fluid level, wheel speed sensors, fuses,relays, etc...Found a person on CRAIGSLIST who had a SNAP ON scanner for testing of that had the correct chips to use for a Toyota. I had 13 codes present! after he reset it, the VSC and TRAC OFF lites have never returned. Who know :confuse: s..
  • I encounterd thesame problem too on my 2007 sienna. The engine,vsc ang tracontrol lights suddenly went on. I noticed it when i parked on a mall, when i was about to drive off, i noticed that the lights are on. i don't like to go to toyota service center right away cause i like to make sure whats wrong and how much will i spend before going to toyota service center. Well, it went off for a while when i made a u-turn to park on the other side of the road. But it went on again after three days when i made a sharp u-turn. it was a low sharp turn not a fast one. Can you tell me sir what kind of Snap on scanner did the craigslist person use to turn off the vsc/engine and tracontrol light so i can do it myself.
  • Hi,
    Sorry but, I don't remember the model number of the scanner. You might pull the rims
    off and look at the discs and rotors. One of my disc pads, the right rear was "chewed up" as if a stone or small piece of metal had gotten in between the pad and rotor. Check Craigs List under "Service... Automotive." Better yet, place an ad searching for some one who can check for VSC and TRAC OFF :( :cry:
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