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  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Greedy? Now why would you go and use a word like that? The car hasn't even hit the ground and we haven't seen official pricing and you have decided that if a dealer is selling a Limited for $40K he is being greedy. A better way to phrase that might be "I'll wait until demand dies down until market conditions don't demand such a premium on the loaded model that has all the features I want."
  • beagles3beagles3 Posts: 132
    I have spoken with a few Seattle area dealers that I do business with and they have already stated that it's sticker price and beyond for several months. The Sales Managers that I spoke with stated that they were told not to dicker, period! I understand that the dealer wants to make $$,but, I just don't play the game well.
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  • ....$39K and up? WHOA.

    Can't you get a limited Sequoia for $42K? Sheesh. Other than weight/slower acceleration/1-2 mpg lower...It seems a better buy for a Sequoia. I am wondering where the 4.0 V6 4runnner will range on price. I am definitely a fan of the limiteds (like my current 4runner), and WAS contemplating an '03 LTD V8.

    I can't stand the plastic flares/panels. My 2 cents: The two-tone body color IMO will die out in out 2004. Just look at the 2002 Sequoias. Toyota will put out the 2nd year (4th generation)4runners and the SR5s/Sports will have a monotone, color-keyed flares/panel option. They will do this especially for the '03 SR5/Sport buyers who couldn't wait. I know because my buddy bought a 2-tone Sequoia SR5 in '01 (black/tan), and what happened in 2002---->Monotone was available in the SR5s. He went crazy.
    Anyhow...I am now going to wait until the V6 arrives in Dec/Jan. Then depending on price, maybe I might factor an SR5 Sequoia Leather/moonroof for the same.
  • sbell4sbell4 Posts: 446
    I was just providing the info we have been waiting for. MSRP on a loaded 4x4 Limited is 39600.

    Dealers can sell them for whatever profit margin they and the consumer agree is fair to both parties.

    I remember the very first Highlander I sold was to a couple that offered a figure that was just above invoice. We sold it to them and went on to the next case.

    Some of the new 4Runners will go at MSRP and some will go for less.

    It scares me that we blanket what we feel what a dealer will or not do by the posts we see. If you like the vehicle I suggest you go and drive it and let your local dealer work a few figures for you to consider. I do not think anyone would expect you to buy a 40k vehicle if the price and value was agreeable to you.

    I assure you that if you want a new 4Runner you will be able to buy one at a fair price.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    How is it that a dealer that tells you the price up front is playing a game? Seems pretty straight forward to me. If the demand is there for MSRP, then that is a fair price. If the demand isn't there, the dealer will not be able to sell it and it will not be a fair price.
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    Yes, you should drive it at least 10 miles a month to help the front axle. You can do this by driving in a straight line on the highway (on dry land). The only problem you will encounter is when you make a turn...thus, just cruise on the highway and you will be OK. Of course, if you have a little off-roading course near you, you can also have fun while doing this every month!
  • Thank you sir. Will do.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    You should be fine just driving it in 4WD every couple of months. I've been doing this for 12+ years. Never had a problem.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    MSRP 39565.74 (w/some goodies) + OUCH!
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    It might not be a bad idea to just have that gray plastic garb re painted to match the body color. It would still be a lot cheaper than a Limited.

    Damn Toyota.

    Just a little aggression.
  • I guess it depens what kind of material they have used for the flares etc.

    Also it would be difficult to find the exact same color.....

    Unless you buy a bunch of touch up bottles !!!!!!

    One big touch up.......
  • Thanks for answer my question about part-time 4 wheel drive on my 98 4 runner.

    The manual says I suppose to drive in 4 wheel drive mode at least 10 miles per month to keep front wheels proper lubricated. Drive on dry road will destroy the system. What should I do ?

  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    The color should be an issue. Most body shops paint new body parts with the correct OEM color anyway. I have even had a shell repainted to match. Can't tell.
  • If the flares are not metal it is possible that the paint, even the right one, might not offer the same finish.

    I'm not sure if they would be able to paint plastic with the same type of paint.

    It might end up not very nice.

    Again, a 800$ paint job on a brand new 2003 33K vehicle is crazy.......
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    Take your new 4Runner off-road a couple of times, especially rock crawling, and get scratches on it...then you have a reason to repaint the whole 4Runner to any color you want! :)
  • The consumer(s) set the prices and there are fools who will pay over MSRP. If every consumer refused to pay a penny over MSRP than the dealers will have to sell the vehicles at a lower price. The manufacture lists the MSRP and there is a healthy profit in there for the dealer at full price. But there will be consumers who will ruin it for the rest of us and pay a premium plus to be the first one on their block to own one.

    I'm not positive but I think I have been following this 2003 4runner and all the rumors since around April 2002. I have been pretty enthusiastic about getting a new vehicle and was initially very disappointed with the original spy pictures taken by Paul S. I have grown to really like the new looks, but still have a few disappointments such as SR5 bumps on the fender flares, the two tone SR5, and the "skunk stripes" on the Limited.

    Between the few things I don't like,the news embargo nonsense, this being a brand new vehicle, and the port problems , I really couldn't care less at this point if I'm able to get my hands on a new 4runner or not. Spending $30,000 to $40,000 plus should not be this frustrating. Plus most of the dealers will no less about the vehicle than the customer does (present board members who are dealers excluded of course).

    Anyway, I am looking forward to test drive one. When someone gets to drive one would you kindly post which model you drove. I have been interested in the Limited but it has been posted here that to get the X-REAS suspension on the Limited it would have to be a factory order and I would like to hear how everyone likes the Sport's suspension.

    We all waited this long and I hope everyone sticks to their guns and refuses to get burned during negotiations. Good luck on whatever you decide.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    I wonder how they are painting the panels on the Limited. Can't be much different. Most bumpers on new cars and some trucks are plastic. They seem to be able to be re painted just fine.

    I guess either way you slice it offroad, you'll get paint chips on metal or plastic body parts.

    I wish they would have stuck with full metal body panels. Unlike metal, those plastic parts not only have to be re painted but filled in as well, when scratched up a bit. The plastic is softer than metal and gouge quite easily.
  • intmed99, plastic will scratch too, it won't be as visible than scartched paint but still there will be a scratched area.

    Also, I'm really looking forward to do some rock climbing with my brand new 2003.

    Serious off-roading and rock climbing is done with customized older vehicles. This plastic we are complaining about will be useful in 2007.

    Serious off-roaders have no time to waste in a new vehicle forum.....
  • Does anyone know if the warranty will be the same as the 02? Any details on the cargo dimensions behind front seats with 2nd seats folded down and 2nd row seats up?
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