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Toyota 4Runner

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  • john_dodejohn_dode Posts: 15
    It seems like this is off topic from 4Runners, but I have to respond to carattorney and his discussion of his "BLACK" truck. Also, using all caps for BLACK is more almost more annoying than martin45 and his whining. Doh!

    First, you live in Phoenix. You get an average of 7.6 inches of rain a year. I live in Philadelphia. We have an average of 41 inches of rain and 21 inches of snow a year. So don't even begin to say that black cars look cleaner than others until you actually have some weather to deal with. I agree that black looks great, and if I had 3 straight weeks of sun I would consider black. But when it rains every other day, I'd rather get a color that can mask the rain, snow, and mud. And when it is 10 degrees outside, I really don't wash my car as much as I would like.

    Second, anybody who has taken high school physics knows that a darker color absorbs more light and thereby more thermal energy than a lighter color, which is able to reflect some of the light. Now, I'm not saying there is a drastic difference in temp between the two and for most people it doesn't make a difference. So if that is what you are arguing, than I agree. But if you are arguing that a black car with a black or gray interior doesn't get hotter than a white or silver car with a tan interior, than I would have to disagree. If you need to learn about this first hand, you can do the high school experiment on the following page and get back to us:

    http://www.nmsea.org/Curriculum/4_6/Interaction/Interaction_light- _matter.htm

    Or if you want straight figures, the National SAFE KIDS campaign has figures on the temperature inside a car depending on the color of its interior:

    http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content3/news3/temperatures.sa- fety.all.html

    JD
  • yomolsyomols Posts: 24
    I agree with you on Elways no haggle,I was just looking at it as a place to start. I have a Weather Tech cargo mat on a Mitsub. Montero Sport. Have had it for 6 years and have hauled bricks, firewood, top soil, etc. and it has held up great. I would definitely recommend it.Also have their floor mats. They are about 10 years old and will probably never wear out. Thet are a little industrial looking but they sure do the job. I'll keep you posted on purchase of the 4 runner, pls do the same if you pursue it.
  • kjack100kjack100 Posts: 133
    That might be the most diplomatic reply I have ever read on this, or any other message board. Nice job. In Alabama, black is hotter than a fire cracker, but it's a wet heat. ;-)

    Don't get me wrong, black as a vehicle color is great, just not in the southeast US for one. Somewhere I read that they won't even paint a substandard car black in Japan because the color is so revered.
  • vaughn4vaughn4 Posts: 106
    Ain't nothing nicer looking than a nice shinny black car/truck with tinted windows and nice alloy wheels. Yes they get dirty, but white is just as bad or worse and white doesn't look half as nice.
  • morrymorry Posts: 24
    I was lucky that my hitch fit perfectly when I picked up my 4Runner. Now the problem...how can I get a drop of about 4-5 inches if another hitch won't fit?

    Has anyone replaced their backup bulbs with brighter ones? Where can get them?

    Thanks,
    Morry
  • White doesn't show dirt nearly as bad as black does. Not even close.
  • tfuzztfuzz Posts: 93
    I traded a silver Highlander for a galactic gray 4runner. The gray, in my opinion, is a little worse at showing dirt than the silver was, but is not as bad as black or dark blue. I really wanted a silver or light blue Runner but couldn't find one with rear air suspension. However, I am very happy with the gray, but I wash it more. I like black vehicles when they are clean, but I don't live in Phoenix! In fact, I have to park in a gravel lot, so dust is prevalent.

    My hitch receiver was also tight. I could get the Toyota hitch in, but it was a bear to get it back out. After a few times it worked OK (I probaby should have tried filing the receiver as some have suggested). However, I needed the ball to be lower for my pop-up trailer--the Toyota hitch is straight. I was able to find one with a 2" drop at an RV dealer but he had to saw off the back of it because of the spare tire. It was also tight at first, but after installing and removing a few times it works OK now. My Colorado State U. hitch plug works fine--it is not tight at all. Unfortunately, probably most people that see it wonder why I have a Dodge Ram hitch plug in my Toyota. Oh well, I plan to retire in a year or two to either Boise (Steve--it would be nice not to have to wash my Runner very often!) or Fort Collins--if Fort Collins at least people should recognize the hitch plug as a CSU Ram.

    I got the Husky cargo liner (the one that is made to fit over the folded down cargo shelf. It works fine. Also used the Husky liner for the back seat. IMHO, though, the Toyota all weather mats look best in front--they fit exactly, accept the anchor hook, and even say "4Runner".
  • This quote sums it all up, I don't know where it came from but it says it best...

        "Dirtiest car in the world is a black car, but the cleanest car in the world is a black car..."
  • peter78peter78 Posts: 284
    This is a recall for some 4Runners from the Southeast Toyota Distributor. They tend to put a lot of garbage on the cars to jack-up the price. Looks like someone didn't do their homework. The following is from NTHSA's web site.

    "Make: TOYOTA Model: 4 RUNNER Year: 2003 Recall Number: 02V339000 Summary: ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH FIVE FACTORY ALLOY WHEELS (MODEL 6934 AND 6936), WITH FACTORY LLAT, AND WITH PORT INSTALLED WR4, FOUR ALLOY WHEEL UPGRADE PROCESSED AT THE JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA PORT AND DISTRIBUTED BY SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS IN THE STATES OF ALABAMA, FLORIDA, GEORGIA, NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA, WHEN THE VEHICLES WERE PROCESSED AT THE PORT, AN ALLOY TIRE/WHEEL UPGRADE WAS INSTALLED. THE UPGRADE INCLUDED 4 ALLOY WHEELS. THE ORIGINAL SPARE TIRE/ALLOY WHEEL WAS NOT CHANGED. THE SPARE TIRE REQUIRES THE USE OF A DIFFERENT STYLE OF WHEEL NUT TO ATTACH IT TO THE VEHICLE. Consequence: IF THE SPARE TIRE/WHEEL IS INSTALLED ON THE VEHICLE USING THE WHEEL NUTS PROVIDED FOR THE UPGRADE ALLOY WHEEL, DAMAGE TO THE WHEEL COULD RESULT AND COULD EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A LOOSE WHEEL. Remedy: OWNERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH DIFFERENT STYLE LUG NUTS, A WARNING LABEL FOR THE SPARE RE/ALLOY WHEEL, AND AN OWNER’S MANUAL ADDENDUM. Notes: N/A"
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Those are not 4runners, they are Highlanders.
                               ; )
                            Mackabee
  • peter78peter78 Posts: 284
    I got the information about the recall from a 4Runner forum. What makes you think the recall is for Highlanders?

    http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=4de88375e46488a38b- a20b1796272d23&threadid=421
  • john_dodejohn_dode Posts: 15
    It is a 4Runner recall.

    The NHTSA states that it affects 176 trucks, so it seems like a problem specific to the region, as indicated by "WHEN THE VEHICLES WERE PROCESSED AT THE PORT"

    JD
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Mackabee was joking! :-)

    tidester, host
  • peter78peter78 Posts: 284
    OK, I get it. Very funny. : )

    --------------------

    (176 trucks, not too much of a recall.)
  • steveb84steveb84 Posts: 187
    are Highlander model numbers.
  • chortonchorton Posts: 149
    6936 = 4x4 limited HIGHLANDER
    6934 = 4x2 limited HIGHLANDER

    or any model # starting with 69 will be Highlander

    4RUNNER model #'s start with 86.
  • vodgutvodgut Posts: 162
    Sorry I've been away for a few days.

    I bought my 4Runner through carsdirect.com. Their local affiliate is John Elway Toyota in Englewood (unfortunately, that's the far side of town from me, but they did get the color and options I wanted in the timeframe I wanted), and they work through the fleet sales there. I believe carsdirect's prices are a lot better than Elway's no-haggle price, so at least check there or other online sites as a sanity check before you do anything. I don't know if Elway does a no-doc-fee on their normally sold vehicles, though.

    Overall carsdirect was a pretty good experience, but if I were to do it over again I'd probably get completely outside financing, despite their protestations about a particular lender. Chances are someone else has as good a rate.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,261
    The Edmunds Maintenance Guide reports the same recall for both the 4Runner and the Highlander. I think we get recall info from the NHTSA site, so if there's something kaflooey, it's probably due to wrong data base input somewhere.

    In any event, check your lug nuts.

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • waydewayde Posts: 198
    Guys n gals -
    I've long been a 4Runner fan, but don't have one. I was stupid and didn't sign the papers on an 02 sport back in sept cuz I wanted to see the 03's - now I wished I wouldve as it was a great deal.
    Anyway - question is I have found 2 '00 4Runners - both black with sport pkg / sunroof / certified / ~36,000 miles for about 23k. This is a great looking truck!
    Questions:
    1) What maintenance is due or coming up (big stuff)?
    2) I know the '01's got VSC, Trac, and EBD.... do you think it's "worth it" to wait till I find an '01 instead? I don't think I really "need" these (also, does the '01 4wd model come with Trac? just curious)
    3) Anything else that is a big change from 00 to 01?
    4) Any tips/pointers for when I go look at these 2 vehicles?

    Thanks!
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Thanks Steve and Chorton.
                    : )
                      Mackabee
  • Has anyone plugged in a brake controller in their 2003 4runners.
    The new hitch comes pre-wired with a harness(in glove compartment) ready to be plugged in under the driver's side and able to recieve a brake controller. The problem is most brake controllers have 4 wires and the toyota wiring harness has 5. Which of the five wires is not used. Anyone help?????

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  • ddw5ddw5 Posts: 23
    Just picked up a new 4runner yesterday. Do the tail lights in built into the lower bumper have any use in US cars?
  • vodgutvodgut Posts: 162
    Okay, I have a problem with my new 2003 4Runner. It hates my groceries.

    Twice now it has brutally ejected portions of a bag of groceries onto the unforgiving concrete of my garage floor. While some items survived, in the first incident a container of sour cream suffered a compound fracture accompanied by release of a small amount of product. The last incident last night was much more heinous. A glass jar of yummy chili stir-fry sauce shattered, its eviscerated corpse exanguinating it's garlicy, spicy contents all over my garage. While it gave my garage a pleasant odor, it was undesirable.

    So other owners, I beseech you, how do you keep your groceries in the cargo area of your 4Runner? I usually keep the shelf down, which may contribute to there being a drop-off, allowing groceries that have shifted during transport to fall out when the liftgate is opened. However, with the shelf up, I could see it falling even further, and causing even more carnage. Putting the cargo net across there seems kind of extreme and obtrusive just for groceries, but is it my only option? How do I stop the wholesale slaughter of my innocent foodstuffs?
  • chortonchorton Posts: 149
    If you got the shelf use the cargo net! This meght help
  • khaugkhaug Posts: 64
    The cargo net that fits across the rear hatch opening and holds bags is a joy! It's easily installed and removed, convenient and holds an incredible number of full plastic grocery bags.

    -Karl
  • Roll the tailgate window down and either reach in and get your groceries out, or at least make sure they won't roll out the back if you open the tailgate. (Note: Sure would be nice if Toyota would make the remote RAISE the window too.)
  • tacovivatacoviva Posts: 116
    My Maintenance req'd light flashes on start up for about 5 seconds. It has 5k miles on it and I suspect it's for the oil service. I changed the oil at 3k. Please don't tell me the "Dealer" has to reset this thing! Anyone know?
  • rentschlrentschl Posts: 69
    No you don't have to go to the dealer. It explains how to reset it in the owner's manual. I reset mine and it simply involved turning the key while holding down the trip reset or something like that.

    -Eric
  • beagles3beagles3 Posts: 132
    The big maintenance is at 30,000 and 60, 000 miles. I am not sure about the yr differences. I just traded in a 99 SR5 (pretty much loaded w/diff lock, sunroof, hitch, cd player, sport seats, etc..). I just bought an 02 Limited and the differences were the VSC, great 4WD system,leather seating surface, heated seats and it seems to have less road noise?
  • I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to your question, but I do have a question for you (sneaky, huh?).

    With your new hitch, how much distance is there between the end of the hitch and the spare tire? I've got one of the old hitches, and it's easy to run out of room. Thanks.
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