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  • lynleytlynleyt Posts: 11
    Someone a few posts back had a question about the rear seat audio. I have it on the '03 Ltd - thought it was standard with the JBL.

    It works with wireless headphones that you purchase from the parts dept.

    My kids love it. They can listen to CDs when I am listening to talk radio, news, traffic, etc.
  • I have a lot to say on this issue because this has been a MAJOR sticking point in me being able to get my new 4-runner SR5 v6 or many other trucks through the years.

    I live in Phoenix, Arizona, the truck capital of the world. You either own a truck here or you face ridicule. It is so difficult to find trucks, especially Toyota in BLACK--my favorite color. I only buy BLACK.

    All this business about BLACK being hard to maintain is rediculous! I can't figure out if this belief is something that people learn at a young age passed down from indoctinated parents or what? Where does this idea come from. My BLACK trucks get washed every 3-4 weeks, are driven everyday and look great and sparkle like only BLACK can. People that have other color trucks complement mine and want to know what I put on it to make it shine. ANSWER: NOTHING--Black shines--it is the best looking color!

    Another weird concept prevelant in Arizona is that you should not buy a BLACK vehicle b/c it is too hot! Again, where do people get this from?? Can someone educate me please.

    I am contemplating going to California to get a BLACK 4-runner soon b/c Toyota ships so few BLACKS to Arizona and many to California. Guess what: BLACK is very popular in Califonia and the first to sell. Imagine that. Amazing folks!

    More insanity: I call the Toyota Dealer in Palm Springs California--(for those not familiar--a VERY hot desert city--same as Phoenix--110 to 115 all summer). I tell Fleet that I am from Phoenix just 250 miles away and I can't find BLACK--do you have BLACK? Gentlemen states: Sure, whatever model you want--part of their regular allotment.

    I wonder if all those California BLACK 4-runner buyers realize that if they drive their Truck to ARIZONA--they will first get immediately dirty because it is BLACK and then burn up like a space shuttle re-entering the atmosphere?
  • jcat707jcat707 Posts: 168
    I read awhile back that if you don't get the JBL sound system, then you can get some sort of rear mirrors or something. Can someone explain this please.
  • chortonchorton Posts: 149
    On the D-pillar there are STANDARD mirrors at the top corners angled so if you are backing out of a parking spot with cars on both sides you can see past them and tell if anything is coming. If you get the 10 speaker JBL Sylthesis Stereo, those mirrors are replaced with speakers.
  • yomolsyomols Posts: 24
    Noticed your post about buying a 4 runner in Denver. Who did you use and were you happy with the dealer overall? I just test drove a V6 SR5 at Elway and loved it.They had many trucks with the grey cladding. I'm hoping that with all the mid year changes Toyota has made maybe they will be really willing to deal on one. Since I will be taking the truck off road I kinda like the idea of the cladding. Would really appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
  • bmw323isbmw323is Posts: 410
    I too live in Denver. I have never seen a "doc fee" charged on the three new cars I've bought here. Although it could be something new. I also drove a 4runner at Elway this past week. I don't like their "no haggle" pricing. However, there is now a rebate on the gray cladded V6 models - they told me $750, but I think it may be $1,000. Since I'll do some 4 wheeling, I also think the cladding is okay with me, and I'll take the $750-$1,000 off. "No haggle" or not, I'm planning on offering them substantially less than their asking price. We'll see what happens. They also add a $299 dealer handling fee. To me, that is part of their profit. Let us know how your negotiations go if you pursue it.
  • bmw323isbmw323is Posts: 410
    I may be buying a new 4Runner and wanted to get feedback on the Weather Tech rubber mats for this vehicle. Anyone have them? Do they fit well in the 4Runner? How about the cargo mat? I once heard that they wear quickly - any truth to that? I've always had the carpeted mats, but I think with the new truck I'd like to try some good rubber ones. Also the option price of mats in the 4Runner is $261 - a bit steep.
  • dust90dust90 Posts: 169
    I totally agree that black is the most beautiful color that you can get. However, if you live where it rains once or twice a week (as opposed to Phoenix), one drive on wet roads & black looks really YUCKY(better now Steve?)! Even dust and pollen show more on the black. A coworker of mine has a black Explorer and parks beside my Galactic Grey 4Runner mon-fri. We both usually wash our vehicles on the weekend and by Wed the black is looking much dirtier than the grey. BUT, if I lived in Phoenix, I might drive a black 4Runner, too!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,964
    Our van here in Boise is silver - it can go months (and often does) between washes and it still looks shiny from 10 feet away. Doesn't rain much here either.

    Steve, Host
  • I'm getting serious about buying an 03 4Runner. I'll be getting the SR5 model. The Limited style 17" wheels are available as an option, but I like the 17" wheels on the Sport model a lot better. Has anyone tried to convince a dealer to swap the Ltd wheels for the Sport wheels at the time of purchase? Seems like there might be a few Sport buyers out there that might like to have the Limited wheels instead.
  • john_dodejohn_dode Posts: 15
    It seems like this is off topic from 4Runners, but I have to respond to carattorney and his discussion of his "BLACK" truck. Also, using all caps for BLACK is more almost more annoying than martin45 and his whining. Doh!

    First, you live in Phoenix. You get an average of 7.6 inches of rain a year. I live in Philadelphia. We have an average of 41 inches of rain and 21 inches of snow a year. So don't even begin to say that black cars look cleaner than others until you actually have some weather to deal with. I agree that black looks great, and if I had 3 straight weeks of sun I would consider black. But when it rains every other day, I'd rather get a color that can mask the rain, snow, and mud. And when it is 10 degrees outside, I really don't wash my car as much as I would like.

    Second, anybody who has taken high school physics knows that a darker color absorbs more light and thereby more thermal energy than a lighter color, which is able to reflect some of the light. Now, I'm not saying there is a drastic difference in temp between the two and for most people it doesn't make a difference. So if that is what you are arguing, than I agree. But if you are arguing that a black car with a black or gray interior doesn't get hotter than a white or silver car with a tan interior, than I would have to disagree. If you need to learn about this first hand, you can do the high school experiment on the following page and get back to us:

    http://www.nmsea.org/Curriculum/4_6/Interaction/Interaction_light- _matter.htm

    Or if you want straight figures, the National SAFE KIDS campaign has figures on the temperature inside a car depending on the color of its interior:

    http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content3/news3/temperatures.sa- fety.all.html

    JD
  • yomolsyomols Posts: 24
    I agree with you on Elways no haggle,I was just looking at it as a place to start. I have a Weather Tech cargo mat on a Mitsub. Montero Sport. Have had it for 6 years and have hauled bricks, firewood, top soil, etc. and it has held up great. I would definitely recommend it.Also have their floor mats. They are about 10 years old and will probably never wear out. Thet are a little industrial looking but they sure do the job. I'll keep you posted on purchase of the 4 runner, pls do the same if you pursue it.
  • kjack100kjack100 Posts: 133
    That might be the most diplomatic reply I have ever read on this, or any other message board. Nice job. In Alabama, black is hotter than a fire cracker, but it's a wet heat. ;-)

    Don't get me wrong, black as a vehicle color is great, just not in the southeast US for one. Somewhere I read that they won't even paint a substandard car black in Japan because the color is so revered.
  • vaughn4vaughn4 Posts: 106
    Ain't nothing nicer looking than a nice shinny black car/truck with tinted windows and nice alloy wheels. Yes they get dirty, but white is just as bad or worse and white doesn't look half as nice.
  • morrymorry Posts: 24
    I was lucky that my hitch fit perfectly when I picked up my 4Runner. Now the problem...how can I get a drop of about 4-5 inches if another hitch won't fit?

    Has anyone replaced their backup bulbs with brighter ones? Where can get them?

    Thanks,
    Morry
  • White doesn't show dirt nearly as bad as black does. Not even close.
  • tfuzztfuzz Posts: 93
    I traded a silver Highlander for a galactic gray 4runner. The gray, in my opinion, is a little worse at showing dirt than the silver was, but is not as bad as black or dark blue. I really wanted a silver or light blue Runner but couldn't find one with rear air suspension. However, I am very happy with the gray, but I wash it more. I like black vehicles when they are clean, but I don't live in Phoenix! In fact, I have to park in a gravel lot, so dust is prevalent.

    My hitch receiver was also tight. I could get the Toyota hitch in, but it was a bear to get it back out. After a few times it worked OK (I probaby should have tried filing the receiver as some have suggested). However, I needed the ball to be lower for my pop-up trailer--the Toyota hitch is straight. I was able to find one with a 2" drop at an RV dealer but he had to saw off the back of it because of the spare tire. It was also tight at first, but after installing and removing a few times it works OK now. My Colorado State U. hitch plug works fine--it is not tight at all. Unfortunately, probably most people that see it wonder why I have a Dodge Ram hitch plug in my Toyota. Oh well, I plan to retire in a year or two to either Boise (Steve--it would be nice not to have to wash my Runner very often!) or Fort Collins--if Fort Collins at least people should recognize the hitch plug as a CSU Ram.

    I got the Husky cargo liner (the one that is made to fit over the folded down cargo shelf. It works fine. Also used the Husky liner for the back seat. IMHO, though, the Toyota all weather mats look best in front--they fit exactly, accept the anchor hook, and even say "4Runner".
  • This quote sums it all up, I don't know where it came from but it says it best...

        "Dirtiest car in the world is a black car, but the cleanest car in the world is a black car..."
  • peter78peter78 Posts: 284
    This is a recall for some 4Runners from the Southeast Toyota Distributor. They tend to put a lot of garbage on the cars to jack-up the price. Looks like someone didn't do their homework. The following is from NTHSA's web site.

    "Make: TOYOTA Model: 4 RUNNER Year: 2003 Recall Number: 02V339000 Summary: ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH FIVE FACTORY ALLOY WHEELS (MODEL 6934 AND 6936), WITH FACTORY LLAT, AND WITH PORT INSTALLED WR4, FOUR ALLOY WHEEL UPGRADE PROCESSED AT THE JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA PORT AND DISTRIBUTED BY SOUTHEAST TOYOTA DISTRIBUTORS IN THE STATES OF ALABAMA, FLORIDA, GEORGIA, NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA, WHEN THE VEHICLES WERE PROCESSED AT THE PORT, AN ALLOY TIRE/WHEEL UPGRADE WAS INSTALLED. THE UPGRADE INCLUDED 4 ALLOY WHEELS. THE ORIGINAL SPARE TIRE/ALLOY WHEEL WAS NOT CHANGED. THE SPARE TIRE REQUIRES THE USE OF A DIFFERENT STYLE OF WHEEL NUT TO ATTACH IT TO THE VEHICLE. Consequence: IF THE SPARE TIRE/WHEEL IS INSTALLED ON THE VEHICLE USING THE WHEEL NUTS PROVIDED FOR THE UPGRADE ALLOY WHEEL, DAMAGE TO THE WHEEL COULD RESULT AND COULD EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A LOOSE WHEEL. Remedy: OWNERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH DIFFERENT STYLE LUG NUTS, A WARNING LABEL FOR THE SPARE RE/ALLOY WHEEL, AND AN OWNER’S MANUAL ADDENDUM. Notes: N/A"
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Those are not 4runners, they are Highlanders.
                               ; )
                            Mackabee
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