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  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    I've got 40,000+ miles on my 2003. I have to say that the interior lighting has never bothered me. If I need more light, I just reach up and hit the map light. That takes all of 1-2 seconds. When I'm done, I reach up and turn it off. That takes another 1-2 seconds. It's quite a physical strain, but somehow I manage ;)
  • I'm currently having to rebuild my engine in my 95 4runner due to the same problem your discribing, I kept losing water and the truck would overheat. I had a small leak in the #6 cylinder of the head gasket, it was small enough that I was losing water through the exhaust and didn't notice because it would burn off as it passed through the muffler system. Have you noticed more water than normal under your tailpipe when you crank up after setting for a while? if so you might be having the same problem I had.
  • Just drove my 2005 V6 Limited to Mexico and back from New York. 8,500 miles on really terrible, terrible Mexican roads off the "autopistas" (the super highways).

    Not a pause in carburation, a bobble,nor a rattle during the whole trip. I have simply never had a car this good.... and I've driven al over east Africa (Ethiopia)and the Middle East across Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan.

    My only criticism is an ongoing one about the flat panel display being mostly unreadable in daylight.

    On those awaul mountain roads.... I never believed I'd find a tire warning gauge a huge plus.

    The heating worked fantastically as did the air-conditioning when needed ... 90 degrees on the Pacific coast day after day!

    .... and when you need it.... when a Mexican 16 wheeler is about to smash you like a bug on their windscreen .... there is that fantastic engine that just turns this car into a rocket ship.

    Amazing.

    .... nobody in the US uses these cars up to their potential, or very few people. They are incredibly engineered. Five stars!

    Best to you,
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,451
    Great trip report. And you got back to NY just in time to enjoy some snow. :D

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  • I just bought this awesome SUV 4 months ago with almost
    3k miles on it. However, I am only getting 15.5mpg and the
    posted mileage per owner manual is at least 16 to 19.
    Is this supposed to get better by aging? Is there any one
    having the same problem.
  • robg4robg4 Posts: 32
    My 06 SR5 is getting around 20 in town. About 22 on the hwy.
  • agnostoagnosto Posts: 205
    I got a beauty Shadow Mica 2006 4WD LTD V8 with less than 600 miles and I am getting between 17-18 miles mixed driving. I have no doubt that after 5-10k miles I will be getting close to 20 MPG. The first 1000 miles are the most critical to any vehicle.
  • 2005 SE V8 4WD with 3500 miles. Approximately 18-19 mix driving, and about 20-21 hwy.
  • that the 4 Runner will introduce a manual?? :shades: ..
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    The gas mileage you experience is greatly dependent upon how you drive. If you drive in stop and go traffic and if you accelerate quickly you'll find that your mileage will be significantly worse. Accelerate gently. Avoid stop and go traffic when possible. On the highway, slow down below 65 mph and use the cruise control.

    You should realize that the EPA ratings indicate how the vehicle performed in two very unrealistic government tests. The ratings are best used to compare different vehicles, not as a guage of what mileage you will actually see. That is, if vehicle 1 is rated 15/19 and vehicle 2 is rated 20/26, then you'll likely see better actual mileage in vehicle 2. It doesn't necessarly mean that if you buy vehicle 1 your mileage will be between 15 and 19 mpg. That's why they say "Your mileage may vary."
  • Mine is bad too... I bought my brand new 05 4runner v8 awd last october... i have 5K miles on it and it still gets 15 mpg in mixed driving (and I drive easy). On the highway it is slightly better but not much because the truck cruises really nice at 75+. suppose if you drove below 65 it might do better.
  • i used to tow a 23 ft boat (approx 4500 lbs) with the old style jeep cherokee.. Handled fine, the only pblm was overheating the small six cyl motor.
    I currently tow a 22 ft boat 3500lb with my 05 v8 4runner and I can barely tell that I'm towing anything. This thing is built for towing (i have the XREAS and load leveling system).
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    "On the highway it is slightly better but not much because the truck cruises really nice at 75+. suppose if you drove below 65 it might do better." It will do a lot better below 65. IIRC, aerodynamic drag is proportional to the square of velocity.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Here's everything you ever wanted to know about aerodynamic drag - in a more or less readable form. :)

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  • Great vehicle (my wife's of course)! Been on Mobil 1 since new off the lot. 17-18 mpg city (hours of idling), 22-25 hwy @ 75-80 mph. Looking at one for me by end of the year (good-by Expedition) or an 06 Pathfinder LE (don't knock it until you check one out!). Just wish Toyota offered a powered liftgate option.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "22-25 hwy 75-80 mph."

    Those are remarkable mpg claims. I wouldn't count on getting those figures if your looking to buy one.
  • I get 22mpg highway at times too. Always 20mpg+ on flat land. MPG takes a dive to 18mpg in the Sierra Nevada mountains going uphill on I-80 at posted highway speeds with the cruise on. Downhill though its easily 22mpg+. All mileage figures however are weather & tire dependent. Weather here is relatively mild & I have Dunslop tires. I have a 2003 SR5 V6 4X4 here too. City mileage is roughly 16mpg. Overall average is 17.8 from the date of purchase.
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    How did you check the mileage? By the computer or by dividing miles driven by gas pumped into the tank?

    I've found that the computer on my 4Runner is at least a couple MPG optimistic.
  • Done it both ways.....display MPG is almost dead-on for me. I compared the display only during the first couple of tanks after buying the vehicle, and it was close enuf for me.

    FWIW, at purchase I witnessed the dealer filling the tank til the pump shutoff automatically, and I went on my merry way. Drove home 9 miles, reset the display, recorded the miles, and enjoyed the vehicle til my next fill-up. The first tank averaged 14.8 MPG per the display figure. Ouch. I filled up & compared miles driven and the display was right on the money. Double OUCH. I reset the display again, compared miles driven at the next fill-up and lo and behold it was within a couple of tenths, although thankfully the second tank averaged 19+ IIRC. I haven't reset the display since the 2nd fill-up, as I was traveling during the first month of ownership and almost all the miles were highway miles. I felt the display was accurate enuf when I compared miles driven to gas pumped. I've since done occasional checks on long trips dividing miles by gas pumped and my highway MPG is always 20+ on the flatland. On the mountain highways it varies, but is never below 18 MPG.

    I average 60% or more city driving. I feel my display MPG has been close enuf for me, although as you and others have posted it's also sometimes off by several MPG. Once again, I don’t live where the weather is very cold, so my averages may be higher than what others experience. Based on my initial comparisons when new I feel my display is pretty accurate with very little variation. Last but not least, the 17.8 overall average is with 4-HI unlocked engaged all the time.
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    17.8 overall seems reasonable for the V6. 25 mpg doing 80 mph seems high to me.

    On my V8 4WD, I can get 18.5 - 19.5 mpg on the highway, with cruise set at 65-70 mph.
  • grahmmgrahmm Posts: 28
    We towed a U-Haul trailer to East Texas from the bay area in California. We then drove without the trailer through Florida, up to N. Carolina and back to California. Towed the trailer at 65 to 75 MPH and drove 70 to 80 MPH without on the way back. We averaged 21 MPG for the trip (05 SR5 V6) 7200 troublefree miles driven. The trailer pulled the MPG down to 18.5 for the 1st leg of the trip so we averaged about 24 MPG when driving without it. Driving at highway speeds on shorter trips we
    average 23-24 MPG so I do not think any of the claims are out of line. We use Chevron gas whenever available as it is a cleaner burning fuel and kinder to the engine deposit wise (for the long term).
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    Btw, I have only reset the mileage computer once in the 40,000 miles that I've put on the truck. It shows an average mileage of 19.3 mpg. That is at least 1-2 mpg higher than the true average, which is closer to 17-18 mpg overall.
  • These 4 runners are heavily affected by wind because they have a large profile and less than stellar aerodynamic drag. I have had tanks--always measured on a round trip from and to the same gas station--get between 17 and 23.5 mpg during highway driving. It is usually around 20 mpg. My display is ALWAYS optomistic by 1.5-2 mpg.

    I've noticed that if there is a stong head or cross wind, the mileage drops significantly. 80 mph bucking a head wind has dropped it all the way to 17 mpg. Windless, mild temperature days and moderate speeds allow it to get above the EPA estimates.
  • dedheddedhed Posts: 6
    damn guys... I am getting better mpg than that with my 06 sports edition with a v8????
    19 in stop and go city traffic, :) and 22+ on the highway...
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    dedhed: how are you computing mileage? Are you doing it by looking at the computer? Or are you calculating it the old-fashioned way -- miles drive divided by gallons pumped into the tank?

    If you use the computer, I think you'll find it to be a couple miles per gallon optimistic.
  • abbylouabbylou Posts: 33
    Has anyone out there ever installed TRD brake pads? Are their any drawbacks with installing these? After a long trip, the breaks fade and are scary. Also, I tow an 18 ft runabout and the braking is no great while towing?
  • tradscotttradscott Posts: 108
    Stop and go city traffic can sometimes get pretty good mileage if there isn't much "stop and go" and you end up driving a lot at 40-50mph. I often get great mileage driving on the Interstate through Denver, but as soon as I get outside of the city and speeds increase to 75-80, the mileage drops considerably.

    Also, don't round up your mileage to the next 10 and round down the gallons to the next even gallon like a friend of mine used to do. The other thing I've seen people do is calculate the mileage and then top off the tank.

    I just don't believe there is any way the V8 is consistently getting 22 during interstate driving at 70+ MPH. It is just not possible, not even if you overpressurize your tires. The EPA rating is only 19. If you can consistently get 20, consider that spectacular. Now, if you do a lot of cruising at 45-50, you might be getting that mileage.

    Like I said, it varies tremendously. People tend to remember the best tank they ever had and claim they get that every time.
  • white4rwhite4r Posts: 1
    I agree with you. My 2004 4runner sport V8 got 23 mpg driving around Yellowstone Park 45 mph (Posted speed limit)and then 60 mph to Ashton Idaho to stay for the night. It did this two days in a row. Low constant speed makes for good gas mileage. Otherwise it is about 16.5 mpg around town and highway or about 2 mpg less than what the in board computor states. Mountains and speed reduce the mpg but mileage is within the 15-19 epa rating.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "I just don't believe there is any way the V8 is consistently getting 22 during interstate driving at 70+ MPH. It is just not possible, not even if you overpressurize your tires."

    The best tank we ever got was traveling through the Arizona desert at 65mph. It was 21mpg. My 17 year old was driving and we wouldn't let him go any faster.
    It's an '05 2wd with the V8.

    But your right--no way can you get 22mpg CONSISTENTLY!
  • robkrunsrobkruns Posts: 4
    I want some fresh opinions on v6 versus v8. I am about to pick up a new limited 4runner on Monday. I don't tow anything. I was thinking the V8 might be quieter around town because of the added torque off the line. However, I am also thinking that it could be louder due to engine size. I am also wondering if the ability to put the V6 in 2wd mode versus full time 4wd of the V8 would cancel any of the advantages out over having a bigger engine. This car is for my wife and she would just like the most smooth, quite option. She loves the 4runner, so please don't say buy a highlander...:)
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