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  • gretsch,

    If you are in California, then you have no worries about the sulfur smell. California's has lower sulfur levels in their gas than any other state. Only people in like 10 or so states have commented on the sulfer problem.

  • For those of you that like the Stratosphere Mica color, indicates that 3rd row seat is not available.
  • vodgutvodgut Posts: 162
    I saw that, too. I found it interesting. There must be some weird refracting properies of that color that would cause the 3rd row seat to melt if the vehicle is in direct sunlight, otherwise they'd be able to offer the two together.
  • That information on determining when to use premium gasoline is outdated. Most engines now retard timing automatically when preignition is detected by the knock sensor. This is how many engines are able to use 87 octane gasoline without preignition. Their ignition timing will be retarded when that gasoline is used. Retarding ignition timing permits lower octane gas to be used.

    In reality, their optimum (default) ignition timing is dialed in by the computer when a higher octane gas is used. I have had a couple of cars that required 93 octane to run their best, both in performance and gas mileage. Both of these attributes suffered significantly when the owner's manual's recommendation on 87 octane fuel was followed. It was common knowledge that you needed 93 octane fuel to get the most from the engine. However, 87 was fine for undemanding driving.
  • Nick, I think the seats may be a bit more comfortable with the leather but I really didn't have a problem with the cloth seats, at least for comfort. I got em because I have dogs. Again the Katzkin is great, just check out the installer.
  • yomols -

    What color do you recommend? You probably had the same interior I did, the light grays with seats the looked like light patio furniture (sort of!) I was thinking a darker gray. I wonder if the interior guys could add more padding for leg support. Anyways, thanks again...
  • On the AVG MPH display, the average 25 MPH number never changes for my vehicle, the AVG MPG and fuel mileage range changes, has anyone notice this, or is it something I'm missing here?
  • It is outdated? I wasn't aware of that. Either way, I guess we are in agreement. I am aware of the knock sensors, which have been around for some time.

    Personal mileage will vary, but to my limited driving (1500 miles) thus far, I haven't seen any significant differences in fuel economy, but I do notice a bit more "get up and go" when using Premium Unleaded, but not enough to justify the additional 20 cents/gal. These days, with the price of gas pushing 1.99 for regular unleaded, every penny counts. :)
  • I have noticed that as well, but I don't think it's a glitch. The average mph indicator averages both highway and city driving. You can reset it at any time by pressing and holding the Mode button for a couple of seconds. The Avg MPH won't change much unless you make dramatic changes in your speed over a significant interval of time. You should experiment. For example, if you are driving on the highway, reset the display and you should see your display, for example, 55 mph (typical highway speed).
  • It is only outdated from the point of view that does not take into account variable ignition timing. In that case, you can run lower octane fuel and not get ping. Only your performance and mileage suffers. They make ping as the sign of needing higher octane (which is true) but don't admit that in some engines higher octane does give better performance. Performance (and to a lesser extent gas mileage) is a more modern indicator of your engine needing higher octane gas. The result of using low octane gas is just not as big a problem as it used to be with carbeurators with fixed ignition timing.
  • Interesting post by some regarding the pricing of Aviator closing to a 4 runner. I think if you are planning to lease the vehicle, therefore no need to worry too much about resale, It is a good idea to go with Aviator if the lease price is about the same.

    With a Ford Lease, you might be able to get some kind of loyoalty lease next time around. Plus, it is just much more luxury to drive a Aviator regardless how good Toyota quality is.
  • Had the same concern about the seat lumbar and elevation under the thighs. Presented the problem to my local upholstery shop and was told he can solve it very easily by in-filling/building up those areas to our satisfaction. Cost would be minimal.
  • mm3051 -

    I am interested in doing the same thing you are. Let me know if you get it done and how much higher the cushion is raised (and if it looks funky). These 45 minute commutes to and from work are killer on my leg, otherwise love the truck!
  • Is the ball mount included with the hitch plate or a separate purchase?

    How do you reset the maintenance light on the dash after an oil change?

  • Ah, I see. That makes sense.

    Here's a question. Has anyone out there used a product additive called "104+" or something similar? It supposedly increases octane to 104 and above.
  • 03 V6 4x4 SE

    Took it to the dealer-they milled the front rotors/pads. Dealer said "they see this alot in SUVs". This is a very hilly area, but I'm still a bit unhappy since the truck only had 3800m -and my driving style is very sedate.

    P.S. yes the ball is included with the truck-
  • This can be prevented by your driving style.
    warpage is caused by pads clamping on a hot rotor. When you come down a hill, after being on the brakes, and have to come to a full stop, the brakes are hot and we sit there and hold the brakes so the vehicle doesn't roll. Change this action to while you are stopped, let the car roll ~2', hold for a few seconds, roll another 2', repeat. This allows the pads to clamp to a different area of the rotor. Remember, the rotor is hot, the pads are cooler. When clamped, the pads cool that section of the rotor, while the other part of the rotor is still HOT. That causes warping.
    Sucks that you have to consider doing this, but that is the physics of it all.

    This was pointed out to me by being at the track and instructors warning folks to make sure when they come off the track, that they don't use their parking brakes, rather leave the car in 1st gear to keep it from rolling while parked.
  • Nick, I went with a light grey that matched the interior panels but the installer had 50 to 75 color samples including probably 5 or 6 greys. Obviously, go with the one you like. Don't know about adding padding. Good luck.
  • jbhncjbhnc Posts: 16
    Hi all,

      I have a 03 4runner. I was thinking about buying a hidden hitch tubular hitch to replace the factory. Will this give sufficient room in front of the spare tire to insert normal tongues (ie seems like most everything is too long behind the pin hole and hits the spare.)


  • thanks for the tip, i'll try it. 2.5 tons sure does roll well, so seems like im braking all the time-

    great truck, really enjoying it. smooth, quiet, great handling (XREAS).
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