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Toyota 4Runner

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  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    Why are all the new SUV all starting to look the same?
  • calucykcalucyk Posts: 35
    Does Toyota have a credit card that can be used to earn "points" that go towards cash off the purchase of a new Toyota? I was thinking something similar to the GM card or the Ford credit card.

    Thanks in advance.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    Looks a lot like the older rounded style (moon mobile) landcruiser. It has a little montero sport in it too.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,274
    Try makeashorterlink.com for those long links.

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  • seanreidseanreid Posts: 152
    Just wanted to correct a misunderstanding with about the drive systems.

    - 1998: part-time 4WD
    1999 - 2000: "Limited" models available with option of full-time AWD (center diff open), part-time 4WD (locked center diff) and 2WD, locking rear axle diff also available
    2001 - 2002 all 4Runners have AWD/4WD/2WD option and electronic system to prevent skidding, wheel spin, etc.

    In my mind, the current system in the 4Runner is close to state of the art.

    Sean
  • seanreidseanreid Posts: 152
    Toyota NA (or who work for same). Would you be willing/able to inquire if the 2003 runner will have:

    1. Increased headroom, if so, by how much
    2. A power rear window that can be lowered like the current version

    I work in the motorcycle industry so if I can return the favor, please let me know. I'm very close to purchasing a 1999 - 2002 and this info. would be very helpful to me in making the decision to wait/buy now.

    Thanks,

    Sean
  • joatmonjoatmon Posts: 315
    lmacmil wrote, "Does the V6 have a timing belt that needs to be changed at 60K miles? If so, how expensive a job is it?"

    It's about $250 job. The 97 says the belt should be changed at 60k, the 98 says 90k. The belts are the same, so why not use the 90k interval? I have a 97 and just changed the belt at 85k. I would have gone to 90k, but I was taking the family on vacation and had the some routine maintenance done a little early.

    FWIW, my 97 w/ 87k runs better now that when new. No squeaks, rattles, etc. I'm very happy.

    Good luck,

    Jack
  • rward99rward99 Posts: 185
    I've seen a promotional video for the 2003 model, and it doesn't look anything like the Prado. The side and grill of the 2003 look almost like the 2002 model. The rest of the front has hints of the Sequoia, particulaly around the headlights. The rear tail lights are taller, and (if I remember) the tailgate reminded me of the Chevy Blazer. The roof rack was more integrated with the body (like the Sienna's). The interior was improved, with an instrument cluster somewhat resembling the Matrix, with the multi-circle cluster. Doors, seats and dash were all sportier than the current model.
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    For the latest inside scoop check out this forum:

    http://forums.caranddriver.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=000923


    The Prado pics listed above by p_g_00 are of the current Prado, which is based on the current 4Runner chassis, not the re-design on the new platform shared by the 4Runner and GX 470.


    Check out the spy shots on the bottom of the page here for the closest thing to what the new 4Runner will look like: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tbcreative67/vwp?.dir=/Automotive&.dnm=2003_4RunnerPrado.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    jafo2001, I've heard Toyota is planning on actually lowering the price on the 2003 4Runner! They want to get it back in line with what it was originally. Of course they'll still have the top model Limited that will be expensive, but from what I understand they need to make the other models more affordable to attract buyers back, due to the SUV-saturated market.

    Good news for all! -TB
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    rsholland, thanks for the suggestion on spell-check! It worked.

    -TB
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,274
    But if you use makeashorterlink.com, you won't skew our margins :-)

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  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    rward99, where did you see that video?! What other features can you tell us about? How does the rear gate work and is there a power window in it still? Does it have the same new suspension as the GX 470, that raises for off-roading and lowers for getting in and out? Please share!!

    Thanks,

    TB
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    Sorry, Steve. I'm on a large screen and didn't know it screwed that up. I'll do that in the future.

    Thanks,
    TB
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,274
    Well, I'm on a 19" inch one, but I read at the "Largest" font size at 960x720. I wouldn't be able to easily read your "non-skewed" post at the "Medium" setting ;-)

    No biggie - the margins revert to normal once you hit the next screen of posts.

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  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The video rward talked about is not a publicly available piece. Rward works for Toyota and was shown a good amount of advance stuff. That video will probably be in the dealers a couple of weeks before the new one goes on sale.
  • jafo2001jafo2001 Posts: 98
    Hmmm I'll believe it when I see it.
    The 03 is supposedly bigger and better in every way. Even if Toyota has been enjoying huge profits, it's still hard to believe they would offer that much more for that much less.
  • trmac47trmac47 Posts: 1
    I find the seats uncomfortable (too low and not long enough). Are there any custom seats available or upholstry options?
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    trmac47, I agree with you about the current 4Runner, but just wait until this fall for the all-new '03 4Runner! I've heard they're some of the best in the industry.
  • spfoteyspfotey Posts: 130
    will not have a 3rd row?
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    From what I have gathered, the new 4Runner will have a 3rd row seat option. It may come standard on the Limited, and, hopefully, as an option package on the other models. Since this platform is shared with the Lexus GX 470, which definitely has the 3rd row seats, I don't see why the 4Runner wouldn't.

    Personally, I hate the side-dropping seats they're using, like the ones in the Landcruiser. I would prefer they come up with something better, like the ones in the Durango or new Honda Pilot. Those fold flat into the floor. However, if that would have interfered with the new ride height adjustable suspension, or the excellent ground clearance, then I'll live with the way it is. I hope you can at least remove them all together, because I'd like to have the 3rd row seats, but don't like the space they take up or the back window obstruction when folded up.

    I guess we'll have to wait until more information becomes available to know for sure. -TB
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Here is my current understanding of this issue. Originally, there were plans to have a 3rd row of seats, but that has changed. Rward99 and my district manager are in agreement that the 2003 will not come with an available 3rd row seat. I think this is a huge mistake and I wouldn't be surprised if they added it in future models.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    How many people are really toting around 7 people. Might as well have a van.
  • spfoteyspfotey Posts: 130
    it's a huge mistake for me/them. i want to buy Toyota - i think theymake the best vehicles for the money -- but i need an SUV with 7 seats available -- even thou their usage would be infrequent. i have held off on buying something else, hoping to get the 4runner. Even with all of the various SUVs out there i consider my choices to be:

    - ML series - i have one now -- reliability on small stuff is not very good.
    - Acura MDX - feels like they entered data into a CAD machine and out popped this thing. I know it is well engineered but it doesn't have the durability of a Toyota.
    - HOnda Pilot -- missing a sunroof and ugly as h*** from what i've seen -- otherwise the utility is very good
    - Toy Landcruiser -- my 2 big problems are the size (bigger than i need and i don't want to fuel an 8 cylinder all day) and they are so pricey -- tho probably worth it.

    i know the volvo machine is coming along but i won't go there without free maintenance. so i am left with either an MDX or the TLC, from what i can tell. ((i don't do American cars -- lousy reliability))

    oh well...
  • zorglubzorglub Posts: 79
    Could not go through all the posts, so I'll ask again. Will it be independent?

    If they can provide 3rd row seating, IRS and AWD, that would be interesting.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    How about the Sequoia. Seating for 8 (7 comfortably), much less money than a Cruiser and 17 MPG.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,694
    the new Lexus GX470 has a solid rear axle, and the 4Runner is its kissing cousin.

    Bob
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    On a serious tow vehicle, IRS would be a mistake. Yes, it rides better, but can't handle a load.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    It could be managed with the right progressive rate coil springs & shocks.
  • jeffjeffjeffjeff Posts: 54
    Thanks to all of the informative information here on this board, I almost purchased a new 2002 4Runner Limited on Tuesday evening. I saw the one I wanted on the lot. The choice was between 3 colors, the Blue with the silver trim, the all Pearl (looks so expensive) and the Metallic Silver (very sharp). I drove the 4runners around the area and I decided on the Pearl, but then looked at it and saw that it was just missing something for me, it was too bright. I then decided to get the Blue and silver, but the blue was too dark. Now, I want a silver but it wasn't on the lot. I walked into the show room floor to head to the office of the salesman because I wanted to talk figures. After doing this, the time was just about right to make my decision, but at the last moment, I decided to wait. I don't know why. This truck is nice, but the price is not too nice. Even the though the sticker price on it was $38,500, they had it reduced to $34,000. Maybe that's a good deal but, that's still alot of money. It's a hard decision. I just hope I have time to get that Silver one before the inventories start to go down with the anticipation of the 2003's coming shortly. I really drove the 4Runner hard on the highway to see how much power it had. It was quite impressive. It feels like it has enough power behind it especially since I won't be towing heavy loads or carrying lots of people at one time. From what I hear, the new runner will look completely different, maybe a bit like the current Montero. If so, then I like the current model the best. What would any of you do if you were in my exact situation. If there is any time that I need help from you all, the time is now, time is of the essence, the longer I wait, the less likely I'll be able to get exactly what I want, so please, TALK TO ME!
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