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  • Thanks for the advice, fellas. Well, I tried to switch the bulb, with both the shift light bulb (who needs it anyway?) and the seatbelt warning bulb. No luck, and both (shift and seatbelt) worked when used with the original/existing 4wd bulb. Guess this would rule a faulty bulb out? I put all the bulbs back where they origainally were, and all my dash guages work fine, except of course, the 4wd light.

    I'll try the turn test, though I'm scared of damaging anything. My jeep is ten years old, so I doubt it'll be a warranty issue. I'm thinking it could be the switch on the t-case. Any idea as to the cost of repair?

    As always, thanks!

  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Do people still use come-alongs?

    Very often the difference between stuck and unstuck is only a couple of feet so a come-along, or even a heavy duty ratchet strap, will do the trick.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I'll try the turn test, though I'm scared of damaging anything. My jeep is ten years old, so I doubt it'll be a warranty issue. I'm thinking it could be the switch on the t-case. Any idea as to the cost of repair?

    As soon as the steering begins to tighten, stop, then reverse until you're in the position you started from, then disengage 4wd. You won't hurt anything.

    You should be able to replace the switch yourself. Check first though to see if it's just a wire disconnected. You can get the switch here for $35 including shipping.
  • Okay, I did the test, and I'm pretty sure it works. There was some 'bumping' going on, would that qualify? Also, I can hear some clicking coming from the front of the Jeep...good or bad?

    Does the fact that there is some DEFINITE gear changing (I can't go very fast at all in LOW--as it should be) mean I still have 4wd?

    Thanks for all your help,

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Nope, Ryan, low range being in working order does not necessarily mean that power is being delivered to the front axle.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    The fact that your speed is reduced in 'Low' indicates that low range is engaged, but not that the front axle is being driven. However, difficulty in steering and noise from the front end would indicate that drive is going there.

    I'd be surprised if it wasn't the switch or a connection.
  • Thanks again to both of you :)

    I'll probalby take her to the dealer in the next couple days and replace the switch--after much searching, I see that this is a common problem for the lack of 4wd light.

    The light hasn't been working for a little bit now, but it's annoying because it's the ONLY thing not working properly, and I'd just rather spend the little bit $ and have it working. Piece of mind...


  • One last question, and this one is probably a pretty stupid one:

    Does the switch that I suspect is broken control 4wd AND the indicator light on the dash, or just the latter? If the switch is not working, does THAT mean I DEFINITELY do NOT have 4wd?

    After I offroad, I vigorously wash the underbody of my jeep, so it's likely I shorted out the switch or wires.

  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Failure of the switch will not affect the actual engagement of 4WD. However, when working correctly, the indicator light will show whether 4WD is engaged or not, i.e. if you shift out of 4WD and the light remains on then 4WD has not yet disengaged, or if you engage 4WD and the light does not illuminate then 4WD has not yet engaged.
  • Paul, THANKS for the advise. I got a mile marker SI 12000 for 539.39, the mounting plate for 139, labor was 50% off or $50.00, the winch cover and the winch bag with accessories for 138.00 so the total was about $900.00.

    I have NOT pulled one thing...but if i put it on e-bay i'll have to take ????? and I'm losing money and the winch.

    Any good ideas to compromise?????


  • Well, sorry this isn't as interesting as the 4WD or Winch issues, but as y'all know, I'm a simple man!

    I've noticed for some time now that when I have my vent controls set to the dash panel only, I get a pretty good blast of air (usually warm) coming from the underdash (floorboard) vent(s). Not a problem, except on a semi-warm day, my right foot tends to get a bit warm..and...yuck...sweaty.

    Took my 06 to the dealer for an oil change the other day, and asked that they check the air flow problem. Was originally told it possibly could be a vacuum line.

    Well, after servicing, I got an answer a few of us have received before..."it's a unique and common situation with the Wranglers". They said they checked a couple of Wranglers on the lot, and the new ones also had air flow to the floor ducts when the setting was for the dash panel.

    I know this is quite minor, but was wondering if anyone else's Jeep has this "issue". My controls for the vent system does not have a "dual" setting for both dash and's either/or.

    Comments? Thanks as always. By the way, my dealer here in Tuscaloosa provided quite superb service. Got a courtesy ride to work and also picked me up for the return trip to the dealer. Nice driver named Olivia.... ;)

  • Randy,

    Though my jeep is a '97, it does the same thing, albeit just a little bit of air from the 'opposite' vent, not a 'blast' as you describe. For instance, if I have the panel vents on, I can feel a little air on my feet, and vice versa. I've assumed this is normal, and haven't given it much thought. My manual states:

    Panel: 'Air comes from the outlets in the instrument panel. Each of these outlets can be individually adjusted to direct the flow of air.'

    Floor: 'Air comes from the floor outlets. A slight amount of air is directed through the defrost and demisters.'

    This leaves one good question: What is a demister?

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Randy, if you're in Tuscaloosa, you should run up to Turkey Bay with us next weekend! I'm leaving from Huntsville sometime on Friday.

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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    This leaves one good question: What is a demister?

    demist - as in remove mist.

    tidester, host
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    Demister is de husband of demissus.

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Paul, my wife has reach some level of emotional normalcy, but still wants me to sell the winch so this may be my opportunity to try that step in a guarded fashion and use that to say........the demand is not there for $X dollars say I paid 900.00 and the best offer I have is $550.00!!!!

    Honey it just does not make since to lose $350.00 more ???

    Have you or someone you know made an experience on selling a used winch????

    Any suggestions you have are appreciated:)

    Be safe,

  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Honey it just does not make since to lose $350.00 more ???

    That's a loser - it's easily trumped by the "cut your losses" argument. :)

    tidester, host
  • Tom,

    Thanks for clearing that up...


  • Hey, Paul!

    A sincere thanks for the invitation. Nice to know I have a potential playmate (well, you know what I mean)!

    Butt...(and yes, note the pun), "mine" is still recovering from my 1700 mile trip to Texas 10 days ago. Plus, my brother in law is getting married Saturday in Mobile, so I *have* to go...sighhhh....

    Next time????

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