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Jeep Wrangler

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  • kwhitesellkwhitesell Posts: 2
    Well for my grad gift for myself I will be purchasing the 03-04 Sahara. Any tips on transmissions (Good or bad)?

    Kevin
  • 2001wrangler2001wrangler Posts: 112
    My dealer called me this morning at 9am and my Jeep had cleared paint and was going to the assembly line, so it should be sitting there complete right now. It is set to be go to delivery tomorrow, so I hope to have it by the end of the week since I am only 4 hours from the plant :)

    Tom - Since I am not driving the 03 yet, I think this username is still OK.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Personal preference really. Neither is bad, though the current four speed auto is relatively unproven.
  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    It'll be interesting hearing your impressions of your new 03' vs your 01'. I know that not a lot of changes have been made but I think the changes that have been made have been good ones.

    Stephen
  • skwirl60646skwirl60646 Posts: 14
    Hi,
    New yj owner -- '95, 4.0 auto, no ac.

    Owner's manual says oil pressure reading should range between 40-65. Mine starts out right at upper limit and then tends to drift downward towards 50.

    Bought it last week, the ride home the needle stayed right in the middle @ 40. Took it in for a new complete exhaust system and now the oil pressure gauge readings are higher.

    Any thoughts appeciated.

    & thank you for this board. Been a lurker for a couple months agter getting bit by the wrangler bug. Learned plenty.
    JackJ
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Welcome! Glad you broke the ice and posted, and CONGRATS on getting that Jeep!

    Factory oil pressure gauges are not known for super accuracy. If you are worried about your oil pressure, you might take it somewhere where they have an accurate gauge and let them check it for you.

    Oil pressure will vary with the oil temperature. It is common to have a higher pressure reading after a cold start, until the oil warms up and its viscosity goes down. There will also be some variation in oil pressure as the engine RPMs go up or down. You will have higher pressure at higher RPMs.

    You might notice a pressure change after installing a new oil filter, especially if it is a different brand. Some filters are more restrictive than others.

    Not a mechanic, so someone else should jump in here and give you additional info on this.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • redkey1redkey1 Posts: 270
    Hi all -

    My 2002 TJ is showing some signs of wear. Flares are fading, paint is chipping off door handles and paint has chipped all the way off of left side of clip where the soft top sail panels drip edge grabs. Are these covered by the warranty?
  • skwirl60646skwirl60646 Posts: 14
    Thanks for the reply.

    Glad to be a member of the board. 1st time jeep owner. I remember a long lost old buddy, had a jeep, said it was like a Harley w/ 4 whls. Real Americana but you have to work to keep 'em up.

    This board is a real buddy too.
    JackJ
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    This topic comes up about every year or so and we never resolve it. What's nice is that it is up to the driver. The five speed will give you more control over the engine and for many of us is more fun since it must be driven. However, if you are in a lot of stop and go traffic, it can be a pain for some to have to keep stirring the gears. Also, some prefer an automatic for off-roading/rock crawling (your clutch foot can get tired pretty quickly).

    Good luck and congrats on graduating!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I would think the warranty should cover those defects (especially the faded flares and the paint chipping off the door handles).

    I am waiting til near the end of my warranty, and then I will try to get some new flares from DC under warranty, fully expecting the new ones to also fade in time.

    I have heard of a cool trick to bring back the color on the flares. They say you can use a heat gun on the flares to get them nice and black again. Haven't tried it myself, but once I get the new flares and they have also faded, then I will give that method a try.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • redkey1redkey1 Posts: 270
    Thanks - that is not a bad idea, waiting until the end of warranty. The only problem is that my jeep is yellow and the gray looks terrible against it. I'll just make them replace them again!
  • saharagalsaharagal Posts: 88
    I've never regretted getting the 5 speed manual transmission! Just give them both a try.

    Laura
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, Edmunds buds, you are all welcome to email me any time, and my email addy is public in my profile.

    But... PLEASE put something in the message header that lets me know who you are. I think I deleted an email from wheelsdown, because I didn't know who it was from.

    Fortunately, he re-sent it and put something in the header so that I knew it was from him.

    Put your edmunds username or something in the header that tips me off that it is from one of you guys.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • xairxair Posts: 13
    Dealer emailed me today, Ruby is in F status
    (paint) should be shipped on Thursday! The wait is killing me, just hope all is well when it gets here.

    Xair
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Good to see you checking back in here. Don't be a stranger!

    -twylie
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    That's FANTASTIC! Man, and not long ago you were wondering if there was problem with your order, and you didn't even know if you would get your Jeep or not. I'm really happy for ya, X!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • surfer454surfer454 Posts: 26
    These are two features that I wanted in my new jeep. I located a sport that has everything that I want except these two. Can the dealer install these before I take delivery or are they options they have to be installed at the factory?

    I found another sport that was almost correct, but it didn't have trac lock or disk brakes. That seems like too much to give up.

    Thanks,
    Bill
  • 01r101r1 Posts: 280
    I'm sure the dealer can add cruise control before you take delivery, I remember that being an option before I took delivery of mine.

    Maybe I'm still half-asleep here, but what do you mean by Sentry? I've seen that term used on Buicks for their auto on/off headlights and then used by others in reference to a security system.

    -Pete
  • surfer454surfer454 Posts: 26
    Hi Pete/all -
    Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the theft deterrent system. From what I read in the Wrangler documentation, this Sentry system somehow immobilizes the engine unless the correct key is put into the ignition.

    Any thoughts on this?

    If I could get these two installed then I think I'll take the Jeep. I'm concerned about ordering a new one, since the sales guy said they couldn't guarantee the incentives (financing/$1K rebate) would be around when I take delivery. This also leads me to wonder why the incentives aren't locked in when you order instead of when you take delivery? The way it is now, a new wrangler could cost you an extra $1K.

    Bill
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    The incentives ARE locked in when you order! That salesman is trying to get you to take a Jeep from inventory so they can move it, it sounds to me like.

    Man, if you can stand the wait, and if it's not too late to order an 03, then I would suggest you order from the factory and get EXACTLY what you want.

    I am about as impatient as anyone you will ever meet, but I ordered my Thelma Jane, and I am VERY glad that I did. It's the first time I ever ordered from the factory.

    Did ya know that you get your name right on the window sticker when you order from the factory? It says "This vehicle built especailly for ______."

    The dealership's name goes in that blank when the vehicle is not ordered by an individual.

    Ok, that's not a biggie, but it IS kinda neat.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • 2001wrangler2001wrangler Posts: 112
    Congrats!! I can definately sympathize with you...my Jeep went to KZ status late yesterday which means that it has been released by the plant and invoiced. Hopefully it was shipped out today and I could be driving it tomorrow or Friday!!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, gotta name for that Jeep yet???

    Since he was born on Cinco de Mayo, how about "Benito?" (Benito Juarez was the president of Mexico at the time they kicked the butts of the French army.)

    Just an idea. (not necessarily a good one)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • surfer454surfer454 Posts: 26
    Tom -
    Thanks for your feedback. It inspired me to call jeep HQ. As it turns out, when you order a jeep you get whichever incentive is better - the one on the day that you order (goes into computer) or the day that you take delivery. That's good news. I'm going to talk to a different dealer since he was either BS'ing me or both he and his manager doesn't understand how this works. Either case is unacceptable!

    PS - I went to your website and read thru the trials that you went to get Thelma Jane. Worth it in the end? seems so.
  • britt73britt73 Posts: 1
    I've skimmed this disucssion and didn't find a concrete answer to my question, so please forgive me if it's been answered already.

    I will be buying a used Wrangler within a month. Did the new 2 ply soft top on the 01's and newer reduce wind noise on the road enough for that to be a factor in my purchase? I don't expect a TJ to be a 'quiet' ride, but if the 2 ply top really helps reduce some of the wind noise on the highway, then I'll rule out anything before 01. I'd rather not have to get my 3 year old a megaphone to talk to me when we're driving.

    Thanks!
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    The change to the newer top was in '01. It changed to a 4 ply material. It made a pretty big difference. We were about to buy an '00 off the lot and ordered an '01. In hindsight, I'm really glad we did. FWIW, I think DC has chnaged the top material again to a 3 ply? for the '03's. Supposedly as quiet, but easier to fold up.

    -twylie
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Twylie is correct. However, in my opinion, the majority of the noise associated with the soft top is supplied by soft door tops. If you have the full hard doors I don't think you'll notice much difference between the early and late soft tops.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Was it worth it?

    YES, YES, A MILLION TIMES YES!

    I have NEVER had a vehicle that has been such a JOY to own! I have never had a vehicle that has kept me all excited about owning it for almost two and a half years! I only wish I had gotten into Jeeps years before I did.

    Tom

    P.S. Bill, if you order a Jeep from the factory, or if you buy from inventory, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear end, unless you are totally sure that you will never want to put big tires (33" or larger) or a locker in the rear. A Dana 44 will handle larger tires and a locker without your being constantly afraid that you will snap an axle shaft. I am so glad that I read posts in here and learned about the Dana 44 before I ordered Thelma Jane!

    If they still have the same package as they did in 01, the "AAS" package gets ya the 30" tires, canyon style wheels, and a Dana 44 rear end. That is a REALLY good package!

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    As was said, the 01s came out with the better tops. I don't have a soft top, but I have heard that there is a WORLD of difference in the wind noise between the new tops and the old ones.

    Also, at some point there was a change to the distributorless ignition, and my 01 has it. I don't know if the 2000s had it or not, but I THINK they did.

    There was a change DURING the 2000 model year from the AX-15 manual tranny to the NV3550. Some 00s had the AX-15 and the later ones had the NV3550. Not sure how the two trannies compare, but I don't think the AX-15s were bad, and I'm not sure the NV3550s are better.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    The distributorless ignition tsjay mentioned was introduced in 2000. Supposedly more reliable and waterproof than a conventional setup. I hit all the boots and leads coming out of it with silicone to be safe. The downside of this setup as I see it is that you'll have to replace the entire frame rail that attaches onto the plugs if it goes south. I'd wager it's not a cheap replacement part.

    -twylie
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