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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I'm sure Ross Allen will love Payton too. Heck, he loves EVERYBODY. He is the Will Rogers of dogs.

    Hopefully, mom and baby will come home tomorrow. They are both doing fine.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • saharagalsaharagal Posts: 88
    Wow, I have been out of the loop! Tom's
    a grandfather! Congrats again!

    Laura
  • brodie19brodie19 Posts: 9
    not to be cliche but long time reader started around 4000 or so but am now getting ready for my purchase of a Rubicon. I used to have a 97 wrangler SE (which should mean super economy) wondering on thoughts of special ordering or buying off of the lot in regards to price ... right now what is the average that people are paying over invoice for a rubicon I am in Sioux City Iowa ... CONGRATS TOM!!!!
  • tjraytjray Posts: 38
    The local Jeep dealer sells Rubicons below invoice. I test drove one the other day and am thinking maybe in '04. Check out meltonsales.com . I've bought 3 new vehicles in the last 3 years from them and wouldn't hesitate to buy another. It's a small town dealer with low overhead and not usually a big selection on the lot, but I ordered mine. Right now, the only Wranglers they have in stock are Rubicons! Congratulations, Grampa Tom!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    It's too late to order an 03 from the factory, of course, but remember the $1000 rebate is available for the 03's. Maybe you can find one somewhere, or get your dealer to locate one for you. I don't know about the 7 year/ 70,000 mile warranty as far as the 04's, but the 03's have that warranty. That might be worth checking on before you decide which way to go.

    Thanks for the congrats on the grand baby, both of you.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,575
    You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me.... Any one else remember that schtick?

    Tsjay, Tjray.... ok, where's my scorecard?

    :-)

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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    "You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me RayJay, but ya doesn't has ta call me Johnson."

    But what I don't remember is where that came from. It was in a commercial, wasn't it?

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,575
    He was also a regular on the Redd Foxx show in '77, per google.

    er, we don't have any Jeepsters here with "Johnson" as their id do we?

    And speaking of show biz, anyone going to see the new Wrangler movie, Cradle of Life? I guess there's a subplot featuring Lara Croft, Tomb Raider, but it sounds mostly like a nice marketing promotion for DaimlerChrysler and the Rubicon. Look for the Jeep in the theatre lobby.

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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Billy Seluga played the JOHNSON! Oh, you doesn't has to call me Johnson. You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Johnny, or you can call me Sonny, or you can call me RayJay, or you can call me RJ, or you can call me RJJ or you can call me RJJ Jr., but you doesn't have to call me Johnson! character on the Redd Fox show during its only season on ABC from '77 to '78.

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  • jptjjptj Posts: 53
    Congratulations on a beautiful granddaughter
    May God bless her in all things
    Walt
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Sorry, Jeep Buds, to keep posting about my granddaughter, but you guys have been real good about putting up with me so far.

    Just wanted you to know that today is the big day! Found out just now that Payton is coming home today.

    I told my daughter that I understood how she and my son in law might want some time alone with the baby once they got home from the hospital. I told her she could have five minutes.

    Yeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • jacknimblejacknimble Posts: 171
    Same here. Best experience in purchasing a car I've ever had. Below invoice, in and out in 25 minutes, including turning in a leased 300M. Great people. All dealers should be like them.
  • brodie19brodie19 Posts: 9
    Well it is 535 miles to melton sales from my house so i will have to fly there to get it and drive it back ... what is the break in period on the 2003 rubi ????
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    could you buy a Jeep from inventory at a dealer somewhere in your general area, but buy it through Melton, with the dealer that has the Jeep being the place you would go to take delivery? The local dealer would have to make some money on the deal, I'm sure, but it might be cheaper for you than going to OKLA or having one trucked from somewhere.

    My guess is that they don't do that sort of thing, but you might try to find out. I know dealers do "dealer trades," where they swap vehicles in inventory from one dealer to the other, but I've never heard of what I suggested actually being done.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Every time I post to thank the folks that have posted congratulatory messages concerning my new granddaughter, another person or two post something.

    I love it! So, thanks to all who have posted up til now. It means a lot to me as a proud Grandpa to hear from my friends here in Jeep Wrangler.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S.

    I didn't even wait until the daughter and baby got home from the hospital. I went with my son in law to go get them! :)
  • bamatazzbamatazz Posts: 311
    Thats what my local dealer was going to do for me to get TAZZ. But Jasper jeep refused. So i just drove over to HOT'lanta and picked it up there.
      Passed the 20,000 mile mark this week.
    Still NO problems at all.

    TO Peyton:
       Welcome to our world

    KEEP JEEPIN
    BAMA
  • billy318tibilly318ti Posts: 38
    Hey all, still looking for my jeep. One question for ya. How is the insurance prices for jeeps. I live in jersey and i'm 20. Hoping it's not too outrageous but any info will help.. Thanks a lot.
  • leafchildleafchild Posts: 24
    After all this time, I finally took my top down today. What a blast! :D Why hadn't I done this before? Why was I limiting myself to such an enclosed existence?

    However, one thing did catch me off guard. NOBODY had warned me about the seat belt tan-line. ;)

    Next step: doors.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You live in southern California and owned a Jeep that long without going topless? You work too hard, Gal! Live it up a little!

    Ain't it wonderful? I take the top AND the doors off of Thelma Jane in the spring and they stay off until the weather gets too cold in the fall.

    I have the hard top only, and it's a pretty good job to get the top off. Once it's off, I like to leave it off a LONG time.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S.

    For the doors, you'll need a 13 MM boxed end wrench to remove the nuts from the studs on the hinges. Be very careful as you come up with the doors: the full metal doors (if they are the ones you have) are VERY heavy. Those exposed threads on the studs are bad news for painted surfaces, so you don't want to let them come in contact with your Jeep!

    To keep the interior light from staying on, pull the #4 fuse, which is the bottom fuse in the right hand column (unless they have changed things). The fuse box is right behind the glove compartment.

    You can get some real nice padded canvas storage bags for those doors from Quadratec (or wherever). The ones I got are Bestop brand, and they are really nice.
  • smurf6smurf6 Posts: 27
    Congratulations Tom on the grandchild. She's beautiful.

    Had the main rear seal fixed last week. They also adjusted the linkage on the 4 wheel drive as it was difficult to engage over the winter.
    Another wrinkle has appeared however. The sensor attached to the clutch clicks when you depress the clutch. The dealership has never seen that one before. They were working on figuring out the part number for the sensor so they can order it and replace mine. It doesn't affect the running of the jeep, at least not yet, it's just a minor irritant.
  • bamatazzbamatazz Posts: 311
    Isnt it great, Now like Tom said remove those doors & REALLY enjoy yourself.

    INSURANCE: my Insurance is $73.00 per month which isnt too bad. It is easier for me to pay it monthly instead of coming up with $400 every 6 months.

    KEEP JEEPIN
    BAMA
  • bcmalibu99lsbcmalibu99ls Posts: 625
    if you remove the back seat, and fold down the front passenger seat (can it be removed, by the way?) what would be the distance on the passenger side of the Jeep from the dashboard to the tailgate?

    Thank you!
  • smurf6smurf6 Posts: 27
    billy318ti,

    As far as insurance goes, mine is much more than bamatazz, almost double, and I live in Southwestern CT. That also includes a safe driver discount, long term customer, multi car and several other things.

    I would suggest that you either call, visit or check online with one or several insurance agents and ask them what the cost would be for you to insure a sample jeep with the type of coverage you want. That way you would get the most accurate idea.

    Good luck with finding your Jeep.

    Susan
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Folding the seat forward doesn't give you much extra room, especially at the level of the cargo floor. Whatever room you get by sliding the seat to its most forward position is about all you will get. I guess you gain just a little, though, because the seat back is not leaning slightly toward the rear like it does in its upright position.

    I don't think the front seats are made to be easily removed. Someone else might be able to give a better answer on that.

    I keep the back seat out of Thelma Jane all the time. I need the cargo area for my tools and winch accessory bag, and for Ross Allen, of course.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Mine makes the same noise. Let me know if a new switch solves it for you. It looked like it was making the noise due to physical contact, so I figured a new one would just make the same sound. I've got my clutch bypass fuse set to start with the clutch out; not sure if that fully bypasses that circuit or not.

    -twylie
  • geepersgeepers Posts: 93
    6' from dash to tailgate. It sounds like you have some crazy idea like I was contemplating. I figured I could make room and sleep over there. However the wheel well takes up lots of room in the rear so there is really not 6' of flat space. I also decided anything I rigged up wouldn't be safe in a crash. The passenger seat doesn't fold down, just kind of goes up and forward and it's not meant to come in and out, doing so would not be convenient.
  • leafchildleafchild Posts: 24
    Thank you for the tips regarding the doors.

    I had the hard top on until recently (I have the dual top option) and hadn't removed it because I don't have a place to put it. I still don't....the spare bedroom in my 2nd floor condo is now a very bizzare carpeted room that looks like a garage with the hard top, the rear seat, and other jeep stuff laying around. It was such a pain in the behind getting the hard top in there, I don't EVER want to have to move it until I am either selling it, or moving to a house with a garage.

    With regards to the doors, I think in California, I'm supposed to have side mirrors, so I guess I need to think about relocator brackets.
  • bcmalibu99lsbcmalibu99ls Posts: 625
    I AM thinking about sleeping there! I mean, it sucks - you use your Jeep to get far away from the civilization, the night falls, and you can't lie down and sleep! Ouch!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Take a ground cloth and sleeping bag, and sleep UNDER the Jeep????

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S.

    Might not want to try that until AFTER the exhaust system has had time to cool off. :)
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Damn those Jeep designers. First you post about how badly it rusts, then the atrocious build quality, and now about how badly it sucks that you can't lie down and sleep in it. You're starting to make me wish I'd never bought mine!!!

    Actually, the distance from the tailgate to the dash is approximately six feet, and about another two feet to the end of the footwell. The seat is held in by four bolts, three regular head and one Torx. Takes two or three minutes to remove.

    So, although it would be crowded for two, unless you're over eight feet tall you should manage a good nights sleep.

    I know that you're trying to find any fault you can because you can't afford one, but your attitude is less than helpful to anyone doing research here. Wranglers aren't perfect, but saying they suck because you think you can't sleep in it is facile. Plenty of real problems and solutions we can discuss.

    To be practical, if you can't stretch out in eight feet of space, take a tent for when you go "far away from civilization". Better still, why not look for a vehicle that you can afford and that you can be positive and enthusiastic about?
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