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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Took another trip to Turkey Bay today, and man was it ever HOT! Poor old Ross Allen was having a rough time, so I didn't stay as long as I would have liked to.

    There was a yellow 2000 Sport that got there about the time that my buddy and I did, and we invited that guy to go with us.

    The yellow Jeep had a four inch suspension lift and a three inch body lift. He was running 35" tires with the standard 3.73 gearing.

    The first major climb we did, I noticed that he was having an awful time. I could hear his engine revving up and then bogging down. Turns out that his low range wasn't working, and he didn't even know it. All he had ever done was play in mud, and he wasn't in the habit of using low range.

    I told him that it sure sounded to me like he didn't even have low ranged engaged, and he said he had the lever all the way up. I told him no way that Jeep was in low range, and I let him drive Thelma Jane in low range. After he got out, he said he could see what I was talking about.

    I'll bet that three inch body lift messed up his linkage on the transfer case, and that's why it won't go into four low.

    I have read many posts that say anything more than a one inch body lift is not good.

    Well, that's my Turkey Bay report for today.

    Let's get wild in Gill's tonight!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Like Tom, we spent the day off-pavement... Nothing like spending 6 hours to go 6 miles.


    http://www.ewylie.com/jeep/Richmtn072702_01.htm (bumpy trails = blurry pics - Sorry!)


    Mostly others peoples Jeeps, but we ran the same lines and trails as these guys... (except for the one where the burgundy Cherokee is parked on a big rock!) We're basically stock aside from tires and some armor. The black Jeep was setup like ours (31" trXus and TurboCity rock rails). He had run this trail previously and it helped having him right in front of us. We got to see the right and wrong lines by watching him.


    We had 11 Jeeps on this ride which really made for a slow day ( 7 Wranglers, 2 Cherokees, 2 Grands). However, everyone on the ride was cool, so the time spent sitting while people were spotted was a lot of fun.


    Fixes/Damages: (none for us, fortunately)

    - one unseated front coil on a TJ (5 min w/ a HiLift)

    - over the course of the day the big burgundy Cherokee removed all 4 of his fender flares while stuffing his tires

    - big burgundy Cherokee toasted his alternator by hitting the mud puddles too fast

    - burgundy Grand got a 15" long tree kiss on the right rear wheelwell. This guy was nuts (you can guess how fast he must have hit the mud to cover his Jeep in the P 4 pic).


    Watching a couple of guys with receiver hitches convinced me I will definitely go the integrated route as opposed to the kind that hangs below the bumper.


    The day was a blast. If anyone in the Atlanta area wants to join next time, drop me an email. I think that crowd goes out at least once a month.


    -twylie

  • desnodesno Posts: 28
    hey ya'll! I know I haven't posted in a good while, but I have been keeping up with the posts since I bought my '02 X, patriot blue w/ tan top. Anyways, in one of the other forums someone pointed to an interesting site about car security that I thought some of us might be interested in. www.ravelco.com If anyone else has any experience with that please let the board know.


    Also, they talk about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. By doing a search on the net, I found a few other sites that actually talk about that act with more depth. Basically, it says that a dealer cannot automatically say that your warranty is voided by the installation of aftermarket parts. Here are some of the sites that I read about it:


    http://www.autotrucktoys.com/mag_moss.htm


    http://www.directsaleslaw.com/library/guides /ftc/warranties/undermag.htm (just remove the space between "guides /ftc" It wouldn't let me post the big link)


    Like I said, this is pretty interesting information. If I missed something and got the gist of the act wrong, please let me know. Laters!!


    des'

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Nice pics! Thanks for sharing.

    That looks like a real good place to wheel. Does it get a lot of use? Is it public land?

    How far is that from you? Would I get there quicker from here than I would get to Atlanta?

    I might be talked into meeting you there sometime. But I still want you to come up and go to Turkey Bay with me sometime.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • wheelermanwheelerman Posts: 113
    those rich mtn. photos looked reel cool . we had a fun time at hollister hills. not a lot of people out on sat . some crap was going on in town. so no one got in the mud pit. we found these young boys with a nice and shiny tj thay said it was there frist time offroad . so i was nice and took them around on the roads then i took them on some harder stuff [no thard for me ]. thay started out good but then thay took the worng line and ended up stuck with there right front side stuck in a three foot dich.so i had to bust out the tow strap. he just bent the bumper and riped off the ruber end thing. the owner of the jeep was'nt mad at us but he said his dad will be mad. we gave him some tips on wheeling and told him to undo the front sway bar and air down .after that we went home.got a cool photo of my jeep at full flex i could site under the front bumper and not hit my head [i'm 6.2] and my jeep is stock! i
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Rich Mtn. is about 10 minutes north of Elijay, GA. The land is Forest Service land and is open to the public at no charge. The trails get a fair bit of use, but is basically a through run; no real opportunity to branch off or explore beyond the marked trail. There was plenty to challenge the larger Jeeps in our group, but at the toughest obstacles, there are bypasses that any stocker can make (we only took one "easy" line yesterday, one or two of the LWB guys took the bypass since the ground was pretty slick in spots. Due to the rocks, short wheelbase has a big advantage. The TJ's were able to navigate all of it with minimal spotting, just scout the line and have a go at it. The longer wheelbase Cherokees and Grands needed much more active spotting to keep their rockers out of the rocks. It is about an hour north of Atlanta (East of I-75) and would be glad to get some guys toghether if you want to come down... I've still got the road trip to KY on thh ToDo list, just don't know exactly when.

    My wife was manning the camera during the two toughest obstacles, but she said she wasn't able to get the camera going because she was too busy watching me bounce and crawl.
    -twylie
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, I just created a small album with three pics of the Toad when he came by here to visit on his way back to Texas. These pics are in the photo gallery at Gill's.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Came across the Road Armor Stealth hard top for my wrangler. It is by far the most expensive one I have seen. You can check it out @ trailready.com I was wondering if anyone know anything about it and also which would be the best hard top to purchase. On a different note, if anyone has any full doors, or a hard top that matter, for a TJ in good condition and are selling them, i may be interested. Drop me a line about either selling, or info regarsing the Stealth of general hard top advice/info. thanks
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    I forgot to mention in my previous post that the Edelbrock are a stiffer shock that the factory shocks on my Explorer. It's not bone jarring, but noticable firmer. Unfortunately it's the tradeoff for a more responsive shock. Again, I recommend them, just something to be aware of...

    -twylie
  • larry18larry18 Posts: 48
    Just returned from Camp Jeep and it was AWESOME!! The whole family was busy all three days. My only regret was that no one was with me to take pics as I drove the Rubicon. Absolutely amazing to go over those obstacles without touching the gas, brake or clutch! They even let us test the Rubi's skid plates on some of those obstacles! The engineers outdid themselves on the Rubicon. I even found tsjay a wheelin buddy for TB! My family is already making plans for attending Camp Jeep next year. I would heartily recommend Camp Jeep for the whole family.

    Larry
  • kelleyokelleyo Posts: 182
    Thanks for the Edlebrock info.

    Those pics from Rich Mountain are cool. My Cabin is in Morganton on the other side of Blue Ridge Lake from Rich Mountain. My wife and I have discovered many waterfalls in the area on some pretty nasty forest service roads (one of the reasons I got the TJ to begin with). Out GA 60 is a nice swinging bridge over the Toccoa river as well. None of these roads are very challenging for the Jeep but for my wife's Windstar (hahah). She could not handle the deep water, scraping underside etc. She loves to go to these sights and so she let me get the Jeep to add to our stable :))). I still have my Lincoln LS daily driver as well. I met the perfect woman!!!

    BTW The Windstar is the worst piece of &#&(%*^#$ ever built...
  • wheelermanwheelerman Posts: 113
    that place where you went on your trail run sounds cool. at hollister hills here in lower nor. cal. it is all hills. all the main trails are fire roads that can be done in any stock suv .it's real dry there not much rocks and as summer gose on the dust gets bad . it's not that hot and theres lots of trees .the unmarked trails are the best and the hardest . it's ran by the state and it's $4.00 to get in or $40.00 for a year pass. it can be fun if you got some friends there .it gets old fast if your out by your self .we try to hook up with others people wheeling but most of the time there rude. well thats the best i can do to tell you guy's about hollister hills.
  • roger350roger350 Posts: 157
    Any pricing info on the Rubicon yet?
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    www.jeepwarehouse.com now has pricing on their site and is taking orders at invoice. I priced out a Rubi with the same equipment that we got on out '01 Sport and it was about a $3200 difference from what we paid. For the additional beef, it's a bargain at that price.

    HTH

    -twylie
  • Hello Everyone-

    I've got a few dollars to put towards some minor modifications, and just wanted some feedback.

    I've had my TJ Sport for 4 months now, and it has seen very little off-road terrain. I want to get some basic equipment before I really get courageous..

    Rocker guards - Tsjay, do you have the Sun Performance guards? I thought I remember you saying that, but am too lazy to reread all of your posts... If so, how was the installation? How have they held up?

    I'm also going to get some recovery/safety equipment. High-lift jack, tow straps, cb radio, etc. For the CB, I don't really want to mount one, so I was considering a cordless, battery powered one. Should I reconsider, or is this a viable option?

    I have a loooooong list of things to do in the future - lift, tires/rims, bumpers, under-body armor, etc. I really am trying to do everything right the first time, so I'm willing to wait until I have the cash. Any other things that are a "must have" that I'm missing right now?

    Twylie-
    How have the entry guards worked for you? I'm looking to pick up a pair of those as well.

    Sorry for being so long, and thanks in advance.

    Pat
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    I think you are doing the smart thing by getting your recovery gear and armor first. It's very tempting to do the sexy stuff first, but until you get out on the trails, it's tough to 1) appreciate how capable a stock Jeep is, and 2) learn what type of mods and setup will make sense for the type of terrain you'll see in your area. Going offroad with experienced Jeepers in your area (find a local club to see if you can ride with them sometime) will be a great advantage because it will help you answer both of the points I mentioned above.

    As far as rocker protection goes, we went with the TurboCity bars (http://www.turbocity.com/JeepBumpers.htm) since they offer rocker protection and a step. Ours have held up very well and aside from a few sacrificial scratches on them, look as good as new, despite my efforts to put them to the test. They have saved my rocker panels from certain damage on 2 separate occasions. The Sun guards are probably better for offroading since you don't give up the ground clearance like the TC or Tomken ones. If you want the best of both worlds, you need to look at something like the fourXdoctor/AEV guards (http://www.fourxdoctor.com/) which are roughly the same price as the TC or Sun ones. They are similar to the Sun Performance, but offer a welded on tubular step/nerf. Had these been available when we bought ours, we might have gone that route over the TC ones.

    Your recovery gear list looks good, but you might want to throw in a first aid kit and a fire extinguisher if you don't already have them.

    As far as other things to get, you might want to consider quick disconnects. You can go a couple of routes on this. We bought the JKS Mfg. discos and they are very well designed and work great (but kind of pricey). If you're willing to do a home-brew mod, you can make some quick disconnects for less than $10 and a little time. If you want to go that route, let me know and I'll dig up some writeups. With your front sway bar discoed, you will get much more articulation out of the front axle, allowing you to better keep the tires in contact with terra firma. This simple change from stock will make your jeep that much more capable on the trails.

    The entry guards are nice, since the doorsill of the Jeep is so high relative to the floor (and the ground). They have taken quite a few scratches from stepping up into the Jeep. They don't extend outside the sill, so there is still a chance to scratch up the outer lip of the sill. I think Mopar makes some that fully cover the sill, but I didn't like the look of them sticking out from the bottom of the door. They would definitely be more functional though.

    HTH

    -twylie
  • tluketluke Posts: 52
    I am now in D1status and have an expected ship date of 8-15. All is going well so far. I have been giving some thought to what an appropriate name would be. Today when driving my truck it hit me. I have it! My Inca gold '03 wrangler will be named "Goldzilla". When I got home I told the wife and she looked at me like I was crazy. She said something about acting like a little boy and she just couldn't understand why I would do such a thing. She doesn't understand!
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Congrats on making it to D1. Won't be long now. I think Goldzilla is a great name. If it's not too many characters, how about this on your license plate?

    image

    -twylie
  • tjytjy Posts: 39
    Hey Drummr8778, email me at drtjyoung@yahoo.com regarding your hardtop situation, I think I can help you. Sorry for the vagueness of this post, I posted a more direct message, but just had that post removed and have been scolded by the edmunds police......
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