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  • hey tom doing any wheeling this weekend ? we made some new bumpers yesterday and today in one hour i pick uo my 31's . we should have time to take it out to see how it all works out. if you want i'll send you some photos .and we'll do another flex ramp test tonight. you do wheel baise x how far up the ramp to get your number .
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    That locker is not going to be a problem in my driving on pavement! I drove around town a while, and there is nothing that bothers me about having that Detroit back there.

    I hear some clicking as the locker engages and disengages on corners, but that's no big deal. Also, there is a slight pull to the left or right when accelerating after a corner, but that's no biggie either. A couple times after being completely stopped at a light and then making a sharp turn, I chirped a tire a little.

    If these are the worst things I have to put up with, then I am totally happy about having that locker. I can probably adjust my driving style so that even these minor things are not as noticeable.

    Will most likely have to wait until next weekend to find out how much that locker helps while wheelin'. From all that I have heard, it should make a world of difference.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Don't guess I'll be going this weekend. That place will be a swamp after all the rain we got. Would probably go anyway, but I'm not hooked up with anyone to go with me in another Jeep.

    I would really like to see what that Detroit is gonna do for me on the trail, but I guess it will have to wait until next weekend.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Im looking into buying new speakers and a sub for my jeep any 1 have any suggestions on a really good one???
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Welcome, nzimmon! I believe you are new here, right? Glad you found us.

    A bud at work has a 97 Sport, and he got a sub for the center console from Crutchfield. They had been discontinued, and the ones they have left are discounted a good bit (don't remember how much he had to pay or how much they sold for originally). Apparently, these were made specifically for the center console of a Jeep.

    He also upgraded to Polk speakers in the sound bar and in the dash. He ended up with a pretty decent system.

    Have you ever dealt with Crutchfield? They are super! They know their stuff and give you real good advice. They also include a lot of stuff that you would pay extra for with other people, like wiring harnesses for easier hook up.

    I would check with them, if I were you.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • I didnt get my "own" car till I was 20.
    It was tough, going though high school without my own car, when all the "cool" kids had their own car. NOT even gonna talk about "dating"
    BAMA is still here, Tazz is still clean (sorry offroaders).
    NZIMMON.. Welcome to the board.
    POLK have good sound, I like JBL myself.
    I agree with Tsjay Cruthfield is GREAT on customer support. If you buy from them they give ya "quick connects" so no wire spicing. They also send ya specs on how to install equipment.

    KEEP Jeepin & Roll Tide anyway NCAA

    BAMA
  • rb123rb123 Posts: 51
    Sounds like that locker worked out real well. I have also considered putting a locker in my 01 wrangler. I was just wondering what made you decide to go with what you did and how hard was it to install. I have the Dana 35 I don't know what kind of a differance this will make when I go to have a locker installed. Thanks for any comments you may have.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, man, good ta see ya again!

    I would have much preferred a selectable locker, but those puppies are expensive, and, since I will very likely regear in a two or three years, I didn't want to spend the money for one of those.

    So, I was going to have to settle for an automatic locker, but I wanted the smoothest operating one I could get for the pavement.

    After seeking advice and posting in message boards, I saw that the Detroit Soft Locker was in most people's opinion the best automatic locker.

    I could have gone the limited slip route, but what I was after was traction even with one wheel off the ground entirely, as often happens when offroading. A limited slip does no good in that situation.

    There are what they call "lunchbox" lockers, like the Detroit EZ Locker, or the LockRight, but they are not as smooth on the pavement and do not have the reputation of lasting for more than two or three years. Two or three years would have been enough in my case, but I wanted the smooth operation of the Detroit Soft Locker for the street.

    So, that's how I arrived at my decision, rb.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    RB, I was lucky enough to have a wheelin buddy that knew how to do it, and he installed mine for me. He would have done it for nothing as just a favor, but I made him take some money.

    Those "lunchbox" lockers are supposed to be much easier to install, but the Detroit Soft Locker installation is more complicated.

    To install the Detroit, you have to take the ring gear and carrier (the guts of the differential) out. The Detroit actually replaces your factory carrier. The only really tricky part is getting the backlash set right when you put the assembly back into the housing. You want the same mesh between the pinion and the ring gear as you had before, or maybe just a little more backlash.

    We got lucky, and had to remove only one shim to get the backlash right. I started with .004 backlash, and we ended up with .00525. My bud painted some stuff on a couple of the teeth on the ring gear to check the contact pattern with the pinion gear before and after the installation, and we ended up with the same pattern, which is what you hope for.

    I am glad I was there to watch, so I know better what is involved, but no way would I tackle that job.

    The installation is critical, so don't let just anyone do it. Probably a lot of the reason for the nice, smooth operation of mine is because it was installed properly.

    Good luck!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • For 03 options you can order either Antilock brakes or 4 wheel disc brakes but not both together. Can anyone give me the advantages and disadvantages of these two options.
    Thanks
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    No personal experience, but I have heard that antilocks don't work very well if you ever go to bigger tires. As a matter of fact, I have heard antilocks SUCK with bigger tires.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • I am planning on buying a '96-'00 wrangler over the next couple weeks. i am looking for a 5 spd. sport or sahara...any suggestions on the two? any advice on options or models would be very helpful. if u can give me any advice on what to look for please email me at d_allen01@yahoo.com. thank you so much!
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I personally don't like the fabric in the Sahara, so I would go with the Sport. Another thing - everything I want is available in the Sport, so there is no reason for spending the extra money on the Sahara.

    Don't know about the '00, but earlier than that the sound bar wasn't standard (it is now). That's the only thing I wish I had on my '98 Sport. Check out the exhaust manifold - they redesigned them in '00 (I think that's the year). Previous to that they often failed and they are expensive to replace (I speak from experience!).

    Other options depend on how you plan to use it. For instance, I had no need for fog lights when I bought mine, but once I moved to my mountain pass home, I was sure glad they happened to be on the one I bought!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,978
    Twylie, I knew it was one of you "T" guys giving me a hard time ;-)

    Advice for Wannajeepbad is best given here - that way even the lurkers can benefit from the sage advice (thx, Mtngal!).

    Steve
    Hosts, SUVs
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    So, you got Wrangler Fever, huh? I guess you know the only cure is to get one.

    First off, welcome! Glad you came here.

    For your info, there was no such thing as a 96 Wrangler: that's the year that they switched from the YJs to the TJs. So, from about 87 to 95, the Wranglers were YJs, and from 97 on up, they are TJs.

    The TJs have the round headlights (YJs' headlights are rectangular) and coil springs instead of leaf springs. The coil springs give a much smoother ride, and most people agree that the suspension of the TJs is better offroad too.

    So, you are doing well to get a 97 or newer.

    Like mtngal said, the exhaust manifolds had a design flaw and cracked on the 97s and 98s, I'm not sure when that problem was corrected, but I would guess in 99 or 2000.

    I think it was in 2000 that distributorless ignition came along, which is a nice improvement. No more distributor or spark plug wires to worry about.

    Sometime in 2000 also, I think, the NV3550 manual transmission was introduced in the TJs, but I'm not sure how important that is. I think the previous tranny was pretty good.

    Like anything else, improvements are made over time, so the newer the Jeep you buy, the more refined it is going to be.

    You wouldn't go wrong with any Jeep from 97 up, assuming you get the right deal, but be prepared to have the exhaust manifold replaced on one older than about 99 or 2000, unless it has already been replaced.

    One potential biggie, if you are gonna wheel that Jeep, and especially if you are going to go to tires bigger than 30", is to get one that has the Dana 44 rear end instead of the Dana 35. The 44s are much beefier and support the bigger tires much better. For most people, though, who only occasionally offroad and have no plans for big tires, the 35 is acceptable.

    Best thing to do is read a bunch of the old posts in here. Lots of questions have been asked and answered in here.

    Don't be afraid to ask a question, though, even if you think it might have been asked before. We don't flame folks in here, and newbies are always welcome.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • got my new tires on sat. . went out to hollister hills on sunday and the tires where greet. i could go almost any where i would want to go . theres this one trail that we only do going down that we only did going up once before [we almost rolled last time] . so it was time to see how the new tires worked. we went right up it . wecame back around and we saw three built up jeep heading to that trail we just did . well we did the trail right be hind them and about half way up we heard them on there cb's saying that you could not do this trail with out lockers, well i don't have lockers and don't realy won't one . at the end of the trail thay took a harder line out and i thought i took the same line but as i went up the front wheel came off the ground like three feet and we almost rolled it twice .then i found the right line . nothing like almost rolling it end over end backwords . we had fun .
  • rb123rb123 Posts: 51
    Thanks for the info.
  • kelleyokelleyo Posts: 182
    The best place to start (its where I started) is

    this board as well as the TJ FAQ http://www.visi.com/~tam/tjfaq.html#sec2_5


    The FAQ will answer a ton of your questions


    Hope this helps

  • "...Hope I haven't given up to much streetworthiness...."

    Probably not. Tons of hot rods use them for improved street performance.

    :-)
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