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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Not to nitpick, but I don't think the noise is actually the throw out bearing. Doesn't the clutch have to be "in" for the throw out bearing to make noise? (When the clutch is in, is that engaged or is that disengaged? Never could keep that straight. I know the transmission is disengaged when the clutch is in, but is the clutch considered engaged or disengaged?)

    Anyway, I think Mac already posted something to this effect earlier, that the throw out bearing would only make noise with the clutch in.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Thanks to all of you Easterners who sent wet stuff our way. I thought my other half was being a bit silly (but I didn't complain at all) by taking the Wrangler to work today when it was only lightly snowing. However, when we got home tonight (we went to dinner in Westwood) there was about 2 inches of snow on the ground! It's absolutely wonderful and I can't believe we've had this much snow this early. The Wrangler did its usual excellent job plowing through the slush and snow.

    I like the half doors because they are at the right height for my elbow and the ledge on the full doors is too high. However, if I were to get the half doors, I would want to get sliders - I would not want to deal with the zippered windows all the time. The interesting thing is that they had just come out with the dual tops when I bought mine (hard top) in '98. According to my owners manual, they came with both sets of doors. Now that would be the best of all worlds - both tops and both sets of doors.
  • As always, thanks for the response. As for the Willys, I like the idea of the jerrycans (and, heck, let's see if we can find one of those old military low-band whip antennas!). The Moss Green is close to OD, but certainly doesn't have that "flat paint" look. I have now seen these at about five different dealers. I agree that the $1430 (about $1140 cost) is questionable. Every dealer said the same thing: They did not order them, just requested that one be sent when they learned about them (each dealer said that they were getting one, maybe two at most). Looks like they came with a variety of different equipment, including, autos and manuals, full and half doors, cruise control and no cruise control, trac-lok or not, etc. The Willys Accessory Group [which includes the hood star and side numbering decals, the front and rear light guards, and the "FUEL" decal] might not be orderable thru parts as a package. If the dealer didn't get it with the vehicle (and none that I spoke with, did), the five items may have to be ordered individually thru the part$ dept.

    Your input on the "half vs full door" issue was very helpful. Because I'm not the world's tallest driver (and would like to rest my elbow on the door sill), and because the Sport will more than likely be left here in the desert, I'll probably order the half-doors, as I intend to pull the window anyway, as well as both sides and the rear, leaving only the top on to protect from the sun. Whether I pull the door on the Sport is still open to debate (if I bought the Willys, I would definitely pull the door).

    By the way, this is a great site and very responsive. As you can see, I posted my first message on this site this past week, and the response has been great. I have enjoyed the banter on other issues, as well.

    I've gone 25 years since my last Jeep...long enough!

    Have a great weekend, everyone!

    Steve
  • While the door debate continues, I have a somewhat related question.

    I have full doors on my 01 Sport, because I was lucky enough to find it in cherry condition and the original owner ordered the dual top group (yippie!).

    Anyway I have seen aftermarket armrests in quadratec's catalog and 4wd.com for the full doors. Does anyone have this accessory in their Wrangler yet? I am debating the purchase but, as usual you can only see and learn so much from a catalog or website.

    -Bill
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Had no one to hook up with, so I wasn't planning on going to Turkey Bay today. Then, when I got back from my trip and checked e-mails, I had someone wanting to meet me there this morning. Got up and took Ross Allen out, got my shower, and checked e-mails only to find out that my bud had cancelled on me. :(

    Oh well, I checked the brake pads and brake shoes on the S-10, took the spare out from under the truck and checked air pressure, and left the tire in the bed of the truck for easier access. Good thing I checked pressure... had only 20 psi. I can't believe I have driven that little truck for two years and had never even checked the pressure in the spare. Not smart!

    Now, if I can muster the energy, I will hand wash Thelma Jane and clean her up good inside. She hasn't had more than a spray wash for a long time, and she shows it.

    Now, aren't you all excited over all that news???

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, in your last post you said that you live in northern WI. Whereabouts in northern WI do you live? I love the country up there, and I worked one summer in Boulder Junction.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You asked about a locker or limited slip for your "Dana 30." You want something for your front diff? Or, was that a typo, and you were really asking about the rear, meaning to type "Dana 35?"

    If you are talking the rear, and if you have the Dana 35, it might be safer to go with limited slip rather than with a full locker. You said you are going back to 30" tires, so that should keep the stress down on the Dana 35.

    I have a Detroit Soft Locker in the rear on Thelma Jane, but I have the Dana 44 rear end. My locker's street manners are not too bad, and I can easily live with the quirks for the great benefits that locker provides off road.

    I don't know which limited slip might be better than others. I think there are several good ones available.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Steve:

    Hey, I see from your profile that you are in St. Louis, so you are only about 3.5 hrs from a real good place to wheel your Jeep! I'm talking about Turkey Bay, where I go almost every Saturday. Think you would be interested sometime?

    If you would like to see some pics from Turkey Bay, you can go to itsajeep.org and go to the photo gallery. Click on the photo gallery link at the top of the home page, and then click on "tsjay" on the home page of the gallery.

    Let me know if you are interested. My e-mail addy is in my profile.

    CONGRATS on that new Jeep! :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Just wanted to welcome you personally to this message board. There were so many posts to catch up on last night that I just welcomed the newbies as a group. I always like to greet folks individually, because I am always thrilled to have some new people to "talk Jeep" with.

    If you've read very many of the old posts in here, you already know how excited I get when someone gets a new Jeep.

    CONGRATS ON THE NEW SPORT!

    Welcome, Jim! Hope you plan to stay with us and be a frequent poster.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hello and welome, Susan. Sorry for the delayed welcome, but I was out of town by the time you first posted.

    I think you have received the info you were looking for from our Jeep buds here on this board.

    In your initial post you were concerned about roll overs. Well, as I think you were very well informed by others here, yes, a Jeep can be rolled over much more easily than a passenger car. The high center of gravity, due to the good ground clearance of a Jeep, the narrow track, and the short wheel base combine to make a Jeep extremely capable off road, but also very much susceptible to roll overs if they are driven like a sports car. You DON'T want to take curves nearly as fast in a Jeep as you would in a car. You should allow extra following distance and drive very conservatively so as to avoid the need for emergency manuevers. You'll be fine as long as you drive it like a Jeep... SLOW DOWN. :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Tru-tracs work well front and rear in a D30/D35 combo. As Tom said, it's not wise to put a locker in the D35. A Tru-trac is a geared, rather than clutched, limited slip. It's well engineered and there's no clutch pack to wear out.

    However, when I choose to upgrade mine it will be to a Superior Super 35/ARB locker. Of course, the locker and shafts come to just under $1000, whereas the Tru-trac will run about $350.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I feel for you - all the close national forests are still closed around here. I woke up to close to 3 inches of snow and clear skies, but can't go play! Maybe we'll get another storm through here quickly and they'll lift the closures soon. Sure would like to go hiking!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    "is it worth the money for me to buy a 98 se with 70-80K for around $10,000? i found a red sport with 52K for $10,000 too. car prices are a mystery unto themselves. maybe i just can't believe my good luck with these lower prices"

    NO! NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO! Do NOT pay $10K for a 98 SE with 70K - 80K miles on it!!! That is almost double what you should expect to pay for a Jeep like that! Now that Sport for $10K with only 52K miles on it is more in line with what you should pay for a used Jeep.

    Used vehicles are much tougher to evaluate a deal on. With a new one, you have access to the invoice price, so you know what you should expect to pay. For a used Jeep, however, the condition and the miles on it make all the difference in the world in the price. You have to do a lot more research to find out what is a good deal and what isn't.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, Thelma Jane ain't gettin' any cleaner while I sit here and post messages, is she??? :)

    Oh well, can't help it: I love to have new folks showing up in here. You all know how much I love Jeeps and Jeep people too.

    Guess I'd better get out there and clean up Thelma Jane. Hope I didn't fail to personally greet any newbies. Not that that would be any great disappointment to the newbie, but it would be to me. :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • bamatazzbamatazz Posts: 311
    Hey..dont forget about BamaTazz over here.
    TOM?? washing Thelma.. Im proud of ya man.
    now, try to keep her clean.
     
     I hate to go aqainst the grain but,
    I like the willys edition Jeep.
    of course i liked the Tomb Raider Jeep too.

    I have a habit of looking at cars at a resale value in the future, If I did ever wanted to sale what I could get for it in the future.

    I guess thats why i got the 6oth Anniversary Wrangler

    WELCOME new members.

    KEEP JEEPIN
    ROLL TIDE
    Bama
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    Yeah, I meant a D35. I'm really losing it...;) Thanks for your input; I think that the Trutrac will be just the ticket. And Tom- buy a couple of cans of Stoners "Trim Shine" and "More Shine Less Time for Vinyl". Just spray it on any vinyl or plastic trim and it will look great. I like to use the "quick and dirty" products on the Sahara and these two REALLY work. I used the Trim Shine on my Pathfinder just before I put it up for sale, and the first guy that looked at it bought it!
  • ponmponm Posts: 139
    Thanks for the invite, I will have to give it a try. A buddy of mine in st. louis owns a custom jeep shop and owns some land in potosi, MO and he goes pretty regularly. You should check out his jeep, I think his web site is asshogger.com. Take care. scott
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Oops! Sorry that I called you "Steve" in my post earlier today.

    "A buddy of mine in st. louis owns a custom jeep shop and owns some land in potosi, MO and he goes pretty regularly."

    It's always good when you "go" regularly. That's something that we old people are always concerned about. :)

    Yeah, Scott, it would be cool if you and your Bud could come over here to Turkey Bay sometime. Has your Bud been over there before?

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Hey!

    I went on a test drive today in a 98' SE with 40,000 miles. She's red with a hard top and these lovely fat tires and great fat front chrome bumpers. It was soooo much fun! And I didn't even roll it over 'cuz I didn't drive her like a sports car! ;-)

    I drove over a curb in a deserted shopping mall--ON PURPOSE!!!!!!!!! :-) Driving the Jeep definitely does something for you...changes your whole outlook. :-)

    The Jeep didn't ride any rougher than my CRX. Actually smoother, I think, since I was farther from the bumps in the road. And it has air conditioning. Believe it or not, I've never had air conditioning. :-) I love that it doesn't really have power anything, except for the steering and I guess the brakes.

    So now I know I want one, which is great!

    Thanks for all the info! I've already ordered a JCWhitney catalog! :-)

    Thanks for the kind welcome, Tom, as well as your input about tons of other things.

    Bye4now.

    Susan
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Uh oh! Sounds like you definitely have "Wrangler Fever." Take the cure! There is only ONE cure, and that is to get one.

    Hey, all of us here are willing to help ya in any way that we can. So, if you have questions, ask away.

    Susan, used vehicle shopping, as I have already said, is nowhere nearly as straight forward as shopping for a new one. Just be careful and check things out with someone knowledgable in used cars. We can help ya with stuff that pertains to Jeeps in particular, but there are things that need to be checked out by someone you know and trust who could take a look at the vehicle before you buy it.

    Maybe you have some experience buying used vehicles, but if not, get someone to help you. We all want to see you get just the right Jeep at the right price.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    So you definitely have Wrangler fever! I haven't done much about aftermarket products - you can quickly run up a huge tab and I'm still catching up after putting a new roof on the house. Good luck with it, and keep us informed. That red one sounds pretty nice.

    One basic thing that someone told me to check when looking at used 4x4s is the wheel wells. If they are all dented and scraped up, the vehicle has been off-roaded quite a bit. A vehicle with ones that aren't damage may not be a better buy (depends on how it was maintained, etc.) but is something to check out. I would rather buy an off-roader that has been lovingly maintained by a good mechanic than one that has never been off road but had no regular maintenance done on it.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    We're being quiet today - I guess everyone else is out either 'wheeling, washing or test driving new Wranglers. I'm sitting here wishing I were out somewhere! The snow we had yesterday was beautiful but not enough to lift the fire closures around here. If anyone is interested in my little corner of the world when it is all white, I put up some photos at
     http://community.webshots.com/album/97672750ATzUHS

    My Noble Black Steed is not pictured there, just what I saw out my windows yesterday morning.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Nice pics, Harriet! You ought to take more/post more!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • I can only hope this winter is like the last one. We usually don't get much snow in Western Kentucky. However, last year we got at least 5-6 inches of snow every week from the middle of January to the first of March. I loved it, though many around here didn't. I love snow, ice is a different story. The way I look at it - if it's going to be cold then I want it to snow. If it's not going to snow, then it should warm up. I didn't have any trouble getting around last winter in my 2wd dually, but now that I have a Jeep I hope it snows knee deep to a giraffe!!!!
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    But I found out that a Wrangler won't go through everything. We had about 30" in one night, and at 4:30 in the morning we got high centered right outside our driveway. The snow we were trying to drive through was above the bumper and packed under the frame. We waited until dawn and then dug out the snow out from under the frame and backed up into our driveway. So while a Wrangler can easily handle quite a bit of snow, there is a limit!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I'm witcha on the snow! You must have gotten more over there around Mayfield than we did here in Greenville. At least I don't remember that much snow. I know it can vary BIG TIME from place to place in this area.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Nice pics mtngal! Snow looks great, but when you have it for about 6 months of the year the concept tends to grow thin. We've been getting a light covering for the past week and while it might disappear, there is a good chance that it will stick around until late March / early April. Still, for the time being, it's fun...

    Might have to put the snow tires on the ol' t-bird...

    Andrew
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    LOL! I know what you mean about snow getting old after a while. I sometimes feel the same way about summer around here - I am really ready for winter now! We don't get that many days where it snows, and it usually melts off quickly so you never quite get tired of it. Last year we never had a snowy weekend - all the snow came on weekdays and was gone by the weekend (except for the higher elevations).

    They've lifted the fire restrictions for our area - just in time for me to go to work. Guess I'll have to wait until next weekend to play somewhere...
  • nolid5nolid5 Posts: 148
    Loved the light on the trees in the valley. Looks like a beautiful place to live.

    Rich
  • Talk about the grass being greener on the other side! We're always talking about how little warm weather we get. Funny stuff, seems that it's always nice and sunny during the weekday and raining on the weekends (sound familiar?)!

    Glad to hear that the weather is cooperating as far as the fires are concerned over there. We have no such issues by this point. This morning we had another layer of fresh fall, and as I look out the window now, it's snowing again...

    Andrew
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